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OCG decklist time
This week, EMEm getting its shit pushed in this go round, Traveler in OCG BA builds, and every single Monarch deck running Kuraz and probably still confusing /dng/ for some reason because there are people that are too stupid and too stubborn to see why Kuraz is a good card for Monarchs, and Empty Monarchs continuing to top over Extra
Also Japan continuing to get NOIDED
What's a better engine for U.A's
Speedroids or Clowns?
What am I missing? Another rabbit? MST? More traps? I'm not removing wave-motion because I like it as a timer that can make Delta live.
My ratios: 3 Driver, 3 Alpha, 3 Beta, 2 Delta, 1 Epsilon (seems fucking useless), 3 Gamma. Tell me how shit I am and finish pick the last 5, please.
>there are people
>in this thread
>that think EMem
>with no Azathoth
>with no Infinity
>with no Rafflesia
>with no Shock Master
>with no Lightning
>with no FUCKING PENDULUM SORCERER
>stands a chance in the TCG
OCGcucks are hilarious.
Right now? TCG EMem.
>Buy three copies of the Master of Pendulum structure for cheap. Get Vortex Dragon.
>Shit on decks that are considerably more expensive than yours.
They will dominate for a time until Monarchs arrive I am guessing.
>Using instant fusion to revive a midfielder or Halberd you either discard or made a rank 4 out of, then bouncing the midfielder for a ua monster and then tributing the Norden for a search is somehow worse than "Hopefully I open terrortop and not the other speedroids".
Also see >>>118544372
TCG PePe you mean
>buy 3 monarch decks and nothing else
>shit on your deck for literally the price of a aids infested hooker
Here for Kozmo hype and summer hype I can't let go of.
Back to finding decks that can summon Hot Red Dragon Archfiend Abyss and watching High School DxD.
>the only searcher in the archetype
>requires normal summon
>also the only card that can get Buster Blader on the field
I know i shouldn't expect nostalgia archetypes to be good, but i really wanted Buster Blader to be the exception
>in the archetype
Then go with cards outside of the archetype.
Yeah, I can feel that, it does make the trap live and recycles your hand traps. Is Solemn worth playing or no? I guess I kinda have 3 monster versions of it. Also, main MST at all or just side 3?
That's only for Buster Blader, which you can already search with this
It really needs something else to search for the other Destruction Sword cards
brill, 2 taketon, puddingcess, warning, thunderhino
brill dump trickclown and ruri ss seraph
field seraph and clown
ns taketon, ss taketon, make invoker
field trickclown, seraph, invoker
invoker ss gelato, make trapeeze memejician
field seraph, invoker, trapeeze
trapeeze eff target himself detach gelato, ns puddingcess
field seraph, puddingcess, trapeeze
seraph+puddingcess choco, choco eff return gelato, detach seraph ss anjelly
field anjelly, choco, trapeeze
anjelly>hoot>gelato search field spell
field gelato, hoot, choco, trapeeze
chateau, risebell, hoot, beigomax, raigeki, trickclown
drop raigeki to make him sweat if he's got backrow. Else, hold onto it.
beigomax>taketon>invoker, ns hoot
invoker ss gelato, search ticket
hoot banish beigomax, ss anjelly
anjelly ss hoot
invoker, hoot, hoot, gelato
risebell eff on hoot, make tiaramisu
tiaramisu eff, ss gelato, search again
invoker, hoot, tiaramisu, gelato
1600+2000+2700+2100 = 8400
Optionally, make choco
1600+2000+3000+2100 = 8700
lizardraw, taketon, brill, 2 skullcrobat, beigomax
beigomax, search beigo, ss taketon
ns skullcrobat, add monkeyboard
monkeyboard, search thunderhino
make invoker 1
field skullcrobat, invoker
scale monkeyboard and lizardraw, p-summon everything left in hand
field 2 skullcrobat, invoker, beigomax, thunderhino
make trapeeze with skullcrobats, make invoker 2 with thunderhino and beigo
both invokers summon gelato, make utopia>lightning
trapeeze eff on lightning
lizardraw eff, draw 1
brill make lapis
(2500)+1600+1600+2500+2500+2500 = 13200
If spell off lizard
(2500)+1600+1600+2500+2500+2500+2400 = 15600
I'd rather be an OG player than all of these copypaste soulless drones that okay nothing but Fetch-a-Fag decks that all do the same thing.
>play a fag that fetches a fag for another fag to fetch another fag to xyz summon Ultrafag who says opponent can't do anything
It's funny how Konami has made theme decks mandatory to win and kids don't even care.
Even funnier when I main deck Fossil Dyna and anti special summon cards and they get rekt.
>seriously though, fuck the never ending meta of theme deck cucks
lizardraw, chateau, lapis, hoot, magi, skullcrobat
ns skullcrobat, search monkeyboard
monkeyboard search thunderhino, lizardraw as scale
p-summon lapis, hoot, magi, and rhino
invoker using rhino and lapis
detach, ss gelato, search ticket
field skullcrobat, m-x, magi, hoot, gelato
trapeeze using gelato and skullcrobat, detach skullcrobat targeting self
hoot eff, banish skullcrobat, ss gelato, grab chateau
chateau over chateau
tiaramisu, detach gelato, shuffle gelato and chateau into deck
ss gelato from deck
field m-x, trapeeze, hoot, tiaramisu, gelato
1600+2500+2500+2000+2700+2100 = 13400
Did the TCG change its name? It's the level 3 speedroid that can SS itself if you control no monsters and adds a speedroid from deck to hand on summon. Hard OPT.
What a stupid name. Oh well.
magi, lizardraw, risebell, monkeyboard, taketon, terrortop
ss terrortop, search terrortop, ss taketon, make invoker
ns magi, search anjelly
monkeyboard add thunderhino, lizardraw
p-summon the added anjelly and thunderhino
lizardraw effect, draw 1, replace with risebell
anjelly eff, ss hoot
m-x, ss gelato, search ticket, play ticket
field m-x, magi, hoot, thunderhino, gelato
tiaramisu, detach gelato, spin, ss gelato, search chateau
field m-x, tiaramisu, hoot, thunderhino, gelato
risebell eff on thunderhino, make trapeeze with gelato and rhino
make choco, trapeeze on choco
field m-x, choco, hoot, trapeeze
1600+3000+3000+2000+2500 = 12100
I'm just shuffling and theorying the play.
>card that shuts down Overload, which is basically a win condition
Have you ever played the deck? you massive piece of shit mouth breather brain dead retard
You actually want some of your shit banished so you can recylce it with Path and Feel Zone
>opponent uses bottomless on my Farmgirl
>say Chain eff
>summon Forerunner from hand
>he gets really mad and calls me a cheater
>wont accept it works that way
I love trench
you keep looking for old rich men that's why. You don't want to partake in the #youngteam struggle.
No no no no NO
BUSTER BLADERS are the new Gatekeeper.dek. Volcanics were the previous Gatekeeper deck
Daily reminder that if your deck has no inherent outs to this setup then it is SHIT and you should kill yourself
>/dng/ says it's trash and I won't make it far
>won 30 man tourney tonight and got a box of High Speed Riders
The pulls were shit, but Anti-Meta is Love, Anti-Meta is life.
The only place that I've known that pinched for everything was "Bamm's Collectibles" in Hayward, CA.
Where the store owner would literally compete in the tourney himself along with everybody else in his fucking staff and 99% of the time he'd win a "sealed" box. When anyone else who wasn't part of his staff got an "opened" box.
Because he's a fucking greedy fuck, his store got shut down eventually.
>monarch mirror matches
I like long duels but this is kinda crazy.
I would say that game 1 should be won by anyone with the common sense to main effect negation... Erupt is good but you end up negating your own Ideas/Erebus, so it's better to use shit like Fiendish Chain/Effect Veiler that already help the EMem match-up or the Nekroz one so you aren't catched off-guard by a mirror match
Back in my day Fog Kings weren't generic armored monsters that look like literally every other space warrior card
Is this card useless?
It's probably the coolest looking xyz monster
Only if you buy three of them.
Basic primer: Pendulum cards are monsters that can be played as spells in the pendulum zones, if they would go from field to grave, they go to extra instead. You can special summon any number of monsters from your hand or face up from your extra deck who's levels are between the pendulum scales. A scale 1-8 lets you summon any number of level 2-7 monsters.
Also note, it's only if it would go from field to grave. Anywhere else, they can go to grave fine.
the 15 is a deckbuilding limitation. You can only have a constructed deck with at most 15 cards in extra. The pendulum cards don't do shit to that limit, because they're added in game.
You loop Thestalos.
And for game 2 you side in Berlines and loop Thestalos even harder.
And on their turn you cockblock them with Stormforth+Aither every turn while banishing and recycling your Stormforths.
Screw any other gameplan. You guys can try to side in negation or whatever you want, but do know that burn is the way to go when it comes to the mirror. Thestalos is super effective against them.
>Monarchs are tier 1
>Not siding against the mirror
Also. Thestalos is real good against a whole bunch of other stuff too. Granted that I wouldn't side Berlines unless it was for the mirror.
Pleb, everyone with taste knows that cactus bouncer is prettiest waifu.
During either player’s turn: You can banish this card; Special Summon 1 Level 5 or higher “Kozmo” monster from your hand. You can only use this effect of “Kozmoll Wickedwitch” once per turn. Once per turn, during either player’s turn: You can pay 1000 LP; this turn, this card cannot be destroyed by battle or card effects.
Kozmo Dark Destroyer
If this card is Normal or Special Summoned: You can target 1 monster on the field; destroy it. Cannot be targeted by an opponent’s card effects. If this card is destroyed by battle or card effect and sent to the Graveyard: You can banish this card from your Graveyard; Special Summon a Level 7 or lower “Kozmo” monster from your Deck.
Been working on an insect engine for Earthbound Immortals.
3 Ccacachura, 3 Yaksha, 3 Garunix, 3 Onslaught, 3 Fire King Island, 3 Terraforming, 3 Barong, 2 Circle of the Fire Kings, 1 Rekindling, 3 Tenki, 1 Bear, 3 Wolfbark. Staples as needed, cook at 350 for 4 hours. Stir occasionally.
I don't really see how this is supposed to get Earthbounds out, but I'm with you so far.
>ygopro server online according to site
>can't connect with client after a game disconnected after beating people up with kozmos.
Did I really just get banned for slapping people with my Forerunner or is the site lying?
I actually won!
The next turn I attacked directly with Saggi for big damage, then the next turn I tributed Saggi for Exa, and attacked directly. Finally I summoned Zefra Saber and overwhelmed him with the sheer force of my monsters.
This deck is just unstoppable!
>tfw no matching card sleeve colors
No way, I was here during that time and a supporter of them. I distinctly remember all those Magicians are better than Nekroz posts.
shaddolls were bad for dng until shaddoll fusion was spoiled, then everyone started dickriding it.
check, everyone played 1 or 0, most people didn't even play manju and senju, some even played sonic bird if I remember correctly
stop this meme
I can't remember anyone shitting on this
Fact is /dng/ is wary about all cards.
you shouldn't take anything here as gospel but to claim /dng/ is always wrong is just as retarded.
/dng/ also shat on Noble Knight and we were right.
Do you know how tiers work, it's based on usage. There is zero chance Noble Cucks were being used over Infernoids, Ritual Beasts, HERO, or Yang Zings. They also had zero tops compared to these lower tiered decks.
Just stop man, admit you got scammed by Konami.
So you are trying to tell me everyone who hates Noble Fedoras just hates them because he wants to fit in?
Sounds more like you are just a special snowflake who wants to not fit in. Which makes sense given you are a tripfag.
>Because of memes
So a deck that was supposedly good never topped a single time because everyone was collectively fooled by an internet meme into thinking it was bad?
Sure thing guy.
>its almost 2016 and people are still replying to mariomeme
Soul Shave and Infinity are good. Being non-searchable in a mediocre rank 4 deck and requiring prior set-up isn't.
But things can change based on more spoilers
Don't reply to me you autistic NEET piece of shit. Fucking kill yourself but make sure to kill your family first to end your bloodline. Even your parents don't want you. Seriously, just kill yourself. Nobody wants you, you don't have any friends who weep for you. Really, kill yourself and your family.
Fucking nigger. Get fucked.
Will they ever put a restriction limit on Nekroz ritual cards?
I mean well, fam. I'm just providing entertainment for the denizens of /dng/. And someone has to take the hit for that. And that someone is the retards of /dng/, the people who have absolutely no idea how to play yugioh. Honestly, I think they deserve to be a laughing stock.
Do you have any fact to back that up?
>Spend more time setting up for a match at a local tournament than actually playing
This card game is getting too fast.
But marzepan is literally retarded
Fuck this card in particular.
Bane of my existence.
>going -2 to kill a floater
Synchro is trash and Nekroz is boring.
Only trash deck play that.
:>Using pussy ass monsters that can't get over 3k
Can you name a good monster with 3k++ attack?
>Can you name a good monster with 3k++ attack?
Nice goalpost moving faggot
Doesn't remove it from the field and probably dies next turn. You call that an out?
Did you just mention staples that played by almost every deck? Are you serious?
Unsearchable limited card
I'm sorry you are using a deck that autofolds to anything with sizable attack, something that was already apparent with Towers being out for fucking eons. Just crash into it with Acid Golem, or quit playing a shitty deck that loses to high attack as if it's fucking old style yugioh
>Dark Destroyer actually floats into a 7 or lower
DUEA was a mistake
>with royal decree on board
>Once per turn
>Not once per turn, during either player's turn
You lack imagination. Also your card text sucks.
Compulse every turn
ojama trio every turn
dragoncarnation every turn
Jar of greed every turn
ritual beast steeds every fucking turn
Typhoon every turn
Stating to get the picture why this is a bad idea yet?
"During your standby phase: You can banish 1 card from your hand; During this turn, if you would normal or special summon an EARTH or DARK monster, you can decrease its level by 2 in your hand."
Also, porting MtG cards to yugioh is a bad idea.
"When this card is summoned, you can banish 1 trap card from your hand. Once per turn, during either player's turn: You can activate the banished trap card's effect as this card's effect."
Still runs into the problems with some silly traps, but what can you do with no resource system?
>there are people itt right now that bitched about noden expecting our meta to end up like a Japanese one.
>same fags bitched about stick chair
Can we kill OCG memers already? They're already proclaiming emem to be meta in tcg when we lack everything that makes the deck good, aka non shit rank 4s.
> the kissing won't get wilder and rougher, as Exa's tongue explores your mouth
> and your arms won't wander down his strong physique,
>and you won't lay your arms around his waist. Pulling him closer.
>Exa will never flip you over, because he hates being dominated
>He won't ever pin your arms down to the bed
>and he won't ever leave a trail of hickeys down your neck with sloppy, dragon-man kisses
>Tfw you will never think it feels so good that you wrap your legs around him
>And he won't ever rub his body against yours
>You won't ever pull your hands free so you can grab onto Exa's back as he bugs against you
>And your hands won't ever wander down to pull down his leather pants
>And you won't ever be interrupted by Shurit because Avance asked him to check up on you because you've been by Exa's side, day and night.
> "You know, Anon. Training with Exa when he just woke up from a week-long coma is bad for him, right?"
> why you two gotta cockblock?
What do I need for Magicians? I have the Rank 4 Staples, REBELLION, Clear Wing + BRD, Apex Avians and so on.
What else will I need aside from a copy of Vortex? Should I buy the 3 R7's now before they go up further?
Other decks are probably going to get hit by the banlist. Magicians are a strong deck and 2 Apex Avian gives them a control element that is invaluable. Now that we have Wisdom-Eye confirmed, you can assume that Magicians will be a strong contender for T1.
Getting out 2 is essentially a wincon.
Also, should I spend ~250 euro on all these? They're in shit languages mostly, but muh shekles
It'd be cute if gemini counted as normals in hand and deck too, instead of just on field and in grave
As it is, its not a terribly good idea. Geminis, as a rule, aren't terribly good, even if you can get their effects.
Odd-Eyes Magicians can run all the Yu- cards so far. Dark Rebellion, Odd-Eyes Rebellion, Clear Wing Synchro and Odd-Eyes Pendulum.
Think that it'll be able to run the Fusion Dragon without interfeering too much with the deck?
No never. Yuya doesn't have any dedicated fusion cards and never will.
He's clearly in the prime of life. He's got naturally white hair.
Hoping we get Shadow Maker as a real card with an effect like:
>You can also Xyz summon this card by using a Rank 4 spellcaster Xyz Monster as material ( Xyz-materials attached to that card are also attached to this card).
>If this card is targeted by a card effect: Detach 1 Xyz material; Special summon 1 Rank 5 Xyz monster from your Extra deck.
>It'd be cute if gemini counted as normals in hand and deck too
Fuck, I forgot gemini have the retarded ruling for that. And really I looked at what's actually available for them and it's embarrassing, even spirits have their shit more together than that.
>3 Feel Zone
>only 1 Path
Holy shit, how do retards keep getting this wrong?
Is the most basic and obvious thing about the fucking deck, just how?
In testing I've found that Psychic Overload actually isn't too bad. In the long games where you're grinding out and actually consistently going through synchro plays, it's nice to have something that refreshes your deck
That being said, every thing else about his deck is wrong. I don't understand how people on /dng/ can even build PSYframes wrong. They're a helmet as fuck deck with the most basic shit ratios ever.
Most people don't even understand basic deckbuilding principles, because TCG is plagued with Netdeck Syndrome.
That's not to shit-talk netdecking as a practice, but you need to be able to understand WHY each card is at the ratio it's at in a deck, or all you'll be able to do is copy others instead of being able to fine-tune shit yourself to fit your needs. Not all locals and tournaments are the same, after all, so one deck doesn't usually fit all unless it's absurdly broken always.
What the fuck do the JAPS do to not brick with monarchs? Seriously I can't find the way to not brick with this crap. The only thing you need to win is summon aither or erebus to get the engine going, but it's really easy to open bad with this deck, and so easy to get clogged with maxx 'C's. What's the secret? Stacking?
How are spriritual beasts doing these days? Have they finally been defeated?
I don't even think its just netdecking and not understanding why you're running what you're running, but I also think a huge part of it is because /dng/ will initially netdeck something solid and then fucking change it completely in the most fantastically stupid ways for no real reason
I agree, that there's such a thing as fine tuning a deck, but when you go out of your way to absolutely RAPE established ratios, then there's a serious problem. I don't know if it's just because some people just think they're "too good" to netdeck and follow a formula (which they obviously aren't) or they look at a blue print and try to throw in all sorts of cool "sekrit tech" which is a secret to no one and is either really obvious or really bad.
Let's try something out, /dng/. /vp/ has their own version of this, so it could be
Suggest cards until we have a 40 card deck, and I'll take that shitdeck into ranked singles and try to win with it.
TCG banlist only, suggester chooses how many copies of each card.
I'll make a post when I find a match telling you how to find it, then you can shitpost in watcher chat.
Nobody really plays them Anymore, I am a huge fan of the deck but it auto loses to most of the same floodgates nekroz does so everyone sides that's shit. Also I guess most people got tired of all these skilly combos to make a board that another deck could do with its eyes closed, if I wasn't looking forward to monarchs and magicians I'd play them after the banlist again
I used to go to those /vp/ threads, pokemon is fun.
Add 3 upstarts.
This will be a complete fucking shitfest with every anon choosing maindeck.
It should be:
>First to post maindeck gets.
>First to post side deck gets.
>First to post extra deck gets.
With Pokemon it was easy because you just had to copy/paste pokes and their moves. I don't really know how can you make it work here where you rely on so much things.
Btw add nekroz mirrors and kaleidoscope, 2 of each.
What other deck in this current meta (outside of nekroz) is even remotely skillfull? Sure elder+cannahawk is a flowchart , but going for an elaborate otk Busby something your average player can perform consistently.
idk, we should see how it goes, like it's fun because those shits usually win, but with yugioh is different.
I'd say the guy that does the thing should call a number, post ending in that number decides deck theme. Then every anon says what they want on the deck depending of the theme.
>Post ending in 7 decides deck theme
>"cute korean cartoons"
>"nekroz of sophia"
YEP, BECAUSE WE'RE STARTING NOW
Change Mode from Duel to Watch, and filter by username "memegame"
Change Mode from Duel to Watch, and filter by username "memegame"
Imo we should
>drop Decisive Armor and Exa to add some Unicore for dank negation
>expand on chaos dragon engine and tech some little chaos guys
>add in more scraps like beast and chimera
>add some fireformation gyokkou
Welp. I'm bored. 3 cards per post. Try to be gentle on me.
Why the fuck would he cut things that other anons said? You just have to get to 40 and get going, you don't have to cut shit. JUST ADD CARDS THE ANONS SAY UP TO FORTY OR YOU'LL NEVER END