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Previous Thread: >>118543552
I have no idea what the fuck I'm building but didn't even die until had 13 kills
Heavy burst damage
starting with 8 tango and a salve
denying him since he has fairly low base damage
not being a retard and walking away from him when he walks towards you in an attempt to harm you with death pulse while using it to cs
WHY IS LICH CHAIN FROST ULT SO FUCKING SHIT! I fucking HATE heroes with ults that they can't setup by themselves or use by themselves. If you chain frost as lich.. people just wall away, force staff away.. blink. you name it!
Does fucking faceless void need someone to set up his ult? Does windranger need someone to set up her ult? No, SHE JUST FUCKING USES IT AND YOU DIE.
Why does ice frog make heroes that are such SHIT. On top of it all.. the icing on the fucking cake(no pun intended) is that sacrifice is a useless skill past the laning phase. Ice armor is decent but his nuke is good only early game.
What the fuck is ice frog doing to lich. Just make his ult do SOMETHING good. I shouldn't have to need so much set up to actually get squeeze some value out of this fucking ult. Why does ice frog not like powerful supports?
This is why I hate playing support.. I never feel strong or feel that I can fight the other team. I feel as if I have to always REACT to how the enemy team is playing against me but they never have to react to how I play against them. Fuck this game. Fuck carries because supports always end up being free food for them.
WHERE THE FUCK ARE MY GOOD BUDGET ITEMS YOU FUCKING FROG. ITEMS THAT ACTUALLY CAN SAVE A SUPPORTS LIFE IF SOME FUCKING FARMED CARRY JUMPS ON THEM!?
FUCK! This is why this fucking game needs item restrictions so that GOOD support items can actually be introduced. Supports can buy certain items, carries can buy a different set of items, etc etc.
>enemy picks balanced ginger bitch of four second stuns and many attack speed
>watch the tryhard tears flow
what went wrong?
was it offlane ursa + tiny? or tiny dagon who refused to build a crimson guard that i kept telling him to?
I was about to boogapost but holy shit, what mmr fam?
because now he also stomps anyone on lane so you can just firstpick him and now worry about a thing, there is nothignt he enemy can do to challenge your doom because he will win any matchup thanks to balanced free chemical rage sny radiance
How exactly is blink dagger balanced?
Le frosty amphibian should at least revert the mana cost change.
What makes doom so great now? Is it the purge from his scepter? Just pick SD, guy has break/purge on fucking 3 count every 40 seconds
>WHERE THE FUCK ARE MY GOOD BUDGET ITEMS YOU FUCKING FROG. ITEMS THAT ACTUALLY CAN SAVE A SUPPORTS LIFE IF SOME FUCKING FARMED CARRY JUMPS ON THEM!?
Like ghost scepter? Like glimmer cape? Like force staff?
Yeah where are those items icefrog wtf
You can't fight the other team because you know, you're a support. It's in the name. You don't do damage, you give utility. If enemies spread out from your chain frost, fucking splendid, your more damaging teammates can pick them off now.
There's so much wrong with your attitude holy shit.
>arise is shit kick him! we lose because of him!
>arise with PR go thru
>i-i-i-its mad and paris shitty drafts shitty players
>they go thru with a frenchie stack
>meanwhile sing gots eliminated very early on by literal whos in a 25min stomp
>i-i-i-its not sings fault h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h--h-h-hes good i swear!
When will this shitty frog introduce cheaper items that actually do something good? I am talking like buckler and headress of regeneration tier pricing but ACTUALLY do interesting and fun things.
Also, anyone else feel its pointless for intelligence to increase attack damage? Intelligence is such a weak fucking stat anyway. No one says "I AM GOING TO BUY THIS VALUE NULL TALISMAN BECAUSE i NEED MANA!" or "I AM GOING TO BUY THIS VALUE STAFF OF WIZARDY BECAUSE I NEED MORE INT!"
No one ever fucking does that or says that. Intelligence is such a fucking garbage stat.
FIX THE STATS YOU FUCKING FROG. AGILITY IS TOO STRONG ON AGILITY HEROES... Strength isn't very good for most strength heroes and int doesn't do enough to warrant buying it specifically. FUCK. ICE. FROG.
Someone explain to me why agility carries are the best carries and strength carries are typically shit or GET shitted on buy agi carries? Agi carries end up having similar EHP pools compared to strength heroes anyway. WHAT THE FUCK FROG. DOES HE EVEN KNOW HOW TO BALANCE?!
I could balance this game in a fucking night if given the chance.
HOW DO I GET KOREAN VOICES IN REBORN PLS HELP
HAVE THIS LEWD PUGNA AS PAYMENT
Ghost scepter is trash because if saves you from one rape but propels you into another rape(rape via magic), force staff is over priced if you are a support that can't farm(like lich), glimmer cape is okay but has been nerfed into the ground. We need more items like these items though. Less items only carries will ever have the farm to reach.
>Brown boots bought on all heroes in every match
>This is balanced and shouldn't be changed
But seriously, why is this not considered a problem? It's basically a 450 gold sink for everyone. And it's the only item that's like that. Shouldn't all items be situational?
I just want to listen to different voices. I'm getting bored.
str - health
agi - armor
int - mana
thats the whole point and reason why int are supports, becuase their primary stat gives them 0 surv.
agi heroes dont get such big mana problems becasue they scale better and can go just stats, meanwhile str heroes cant really because they need to fix their shit armor etc to keep up.
I really wish admins would start banning people for posting porno and anime. FUCK YOU!
look on the brightside, at least sing will stream dota again
After you take a break, the first three to four games are always stomps, it's valve's way to say 'these ones are on the house, make sure you get hooked to this feeling of power, because we're gonna take it out very soon and you will get hooked on the anticipation of finding it again'
all the tanky supports that aren't earth shaker are trash. Abaddon is trash pre soul ring and tranqs. He is also trash pre-agahnims scepter.
There are no good tanky supports in this fucking game and it bugs the shit out of me.
they are not, its because you play better when you clear your head
it literally happend to me, i grinded every day like a retard literally against my will, then had finals and decided to stop so i can learn.
after i came back every game i won i had ~10cs/min and 700+ gpm, which happend very rarelly before.
i won majority of my games but thats not the point, i simply somehow got better, my team has no impact on my farming patterns etc.
i no longer stomp almost eveyrgame but thats because i ranked up a bit, still the 10 700 performances happen way way more often than before the break
>VALVE KNIGHTS (HATS)
>DOTARDS WILL DEFEND THIS
Absolutely, he was a bullshit hero that was impossible to shut down and would almost always ball out of control at some point in the game when played by a good player. No matter how good you shut down his early game, no matter how careful you where in the mid-game, a good player would always find something to abuse and snowball, and once he did, there was no longer anything you could do about it.
why do people get really mad when you give up?
I mean, the enemy could have taken our last 6 towers without a fight, we're 0-14, and they get really pissed and report me because I'm cliff jungling till the game ends, even though I tried hard until we had 0 outer towers left
>Static Remnant mana cost increased from 70/80/90/100 to 100
>Static Remnant unobstructed vision reduced from 800 to 600
>Ball Lightning base mana cost increased from 15 + 7% to 30 + 8%
was this all it really took to kill Storm?
>satanic has active
>manta has active
>bot has active
>ac has aura
>bbfy has active
>mkb just sits in your inventory doing nothing
quick post ideas for an active or aura for mkb
>Increase proc chance of mini bash by X for 5 second, cd of 30
>x is decided by the target's evasion subtracted by 50 (i.e. if the target has 35% evasion then the increased amount is 20%, which is a net 55% chance) otherwise it's 85%
Yes i did and i enjoy the bet system and the skins that came from it.
Stiupid whiny NEET.
>guy on my team says "me support"
>picks pugna and buys vanguard
>no wards ever
when does it get better.
atleast you can actually get levels through gameplay this time
>tfw a friend gifted me lvl 25 compendium and I don't intend to shill a single shill for it but I might still get some sweet stuff
>hero is too good
>reddit loses their shit about it
>you delete it from the game to calm them down
>buff it when they forget the hero exists
happens every time, its literally called being morphlinged
>doesn't pick gamewinning heroes
>complain about not winning
>Enjoy paying extra
>Still being poor
it's like 5$ damn you poorfags are funny
You will spend 50 autism bucks on a waifu pillow but 5$ is too much
Goddamn I wish I was recording my last match.
Went 17/9/17 as Tiny. Would have been more like 10/2/17 if the other team didn't suicide dive every time they got advantage in lane. And then I fucking got a double damage rune, burst Tusk down to half health with an avalanche and one auto, and he invis's of course.
Well suddenly he comes back, Spirit Breaker's charging me, I get wombo combo'd down to... 1700hp before I three hit them both because I built fucking attack speed and damage you dumb shits and I have a double damage run active. That moment just fucking solidified the game for me. My first ranked game no less jesus christ.
>this happened to morphling
>etherealblade intended for tinker hit him hard aswell
>morphling comes back through SUPPORTLING
>icefrog smacks it before it even becomes a thing in pro games and no one was whining about it
Icefrog must have PTSD about that hero
Why did you remove my 40% truestrike?
The game literally isn't over until the enemy team has broken highground, it's where they're most likely to fuck up and where I've had most of my comebacks / throws.
you literally have aegis in your inventory, you are retarded honestly.
>go in die
grats you just dealt like 60k hero damage in that move
honestly just stop posting, carries like you are the worst.
Lookit this shit
>ridiculous gpm because they kept feeding me gold
Yeah man, when you're 20k down at 20 minutes, you should keep trying
I care about having fun and playing winnable games
I care about having fun, and a 0.1% chance to win game that is going to drag on for another 15-20 minutes would be over in 3 if we just started feeding down mid.
Average 40 minute game divided by 1000 = 2.4 seconds
time saved by feeding down mid with no items = (12+17)/2 minutes = 14.5 minutes = 870 seconds
870 - 2.4 = 867.6
You lose 867.6 seconds of your life if you don't give up at 15 minutes.
I just mathematically proved why giving up is better than trying.
I've never really tried that on Tiny. I don't have much trouble positioning with him since he has such ridiculous base speed, but I guess I am in the trench right now.
What order should I get Blink?
I generally try to either get Power Treads or a Drum as my first item depending on how the game is going. Most of the time boots, but I'll get a drum if there's lots of teamfights early.
Then second I usually get an Aghs so I can start farming the jungle every time there's a slow moment and just for general cleave and throw buffs.
Does anyone have pictures of banes old beta model?
I've done a little searching and all i can find is his hero icon and these textures.
You know, its not about actually winning or not winning the game, its about a state of mind.
Stop being such a fucking faggot and enjoy the damn game, use the time you have to actually do something. Defend the base, try to think what went wrong. Mess with the other team, split push if you can, and be happy. Because if you keep doing it, your future games will be better, you'll be more relaxed and more confident.
Also, pubs are retarded, from 1k to 7k and lose their advantage sometimes, but for different reasons. in 1k, its because they dont know when to push or some basic shit like that.
In 7k, there is always this cocky player who think hes playing alone, and yeah, he might be 10-0, but then he leaves his team, and since the winning team is so confident, they dive 3v5, then they die, and boom, you start recovering.
And you want to math? ill give you math then.
games won when trying > games won when not trying.
>tfw so dissapointed at TI4 finals I stopped buying anything from Valve ever
Well game starts forgot 5th player
>fifth is a retard
>carry game with meepo mid micro
>all fine until
>throwing Ursa losts one creep
>write dire gg (salt)
>FML .... Why ... Why if our team got good start :(
Rest of evening 1 girl was frustrated and tried to forget
Early game was nerfed.
>need farm lol
Now the rest of your team has slower farm.
>can't solo kill fo shit
Late game die
>walao chao cibai noob team gg lah fuck lah nice lah commend
don't think we ever saw that model besides some test client users, when bane was introduced into the beta he was already redesigned
>enemy picks some big kenshiro attacking hero
>shit on their lane
>shit on their fights
NO, frankfurt is on.
Does he want to kill himself? I know after getting BTFO in tournaments he goes super emo. After being happy as fuck for weeks I can imagine him being a trainwreck right now.
No it's one retard who keeps spamming the same link over and over again because he saw it and thought "hey this is a perfect anime deterrent!"
He's on the same level as that Mirana poster, quarry guy, and that dumb Kumiko poster. Oddly enough, at least all those shitters' posts are actually relating to Dota, commenting about it or posting content regarding it. WEEABOO guy is actually off-topic.
>tfw having to play every game on EU east
>Eu west gives reconnect bug every single time
I know you're probably trying to set up a joke, but:
>Oddly enough, at least all those shitters' posts are actually relating to Dota, commenting about it or posting content regarding it. WEEABOO guy is actually off-topic.
I'm saying quarry guy is actually Dota related. I hate to admit it, but even anime shitters are Dota related because their comments are directly talking about Dota (or at least when esports is on). That one guy posting that video is completely off-topic. If anything it's reportable for trying to derail the thread (and if he's the creator he's just straight up promoting his work).
Either way he needs to fuck off. I'm sure someone desperate enough will apply for a janitor position and purge anime from this thread anyways for like a month.
Know that you have my full support fam. Good job cleaning this place of the filth.
>was in a game with a bad lanin phase for my team
>fuck, we are going to lose
>suddenly my team's alchemist starts killing people left and right, even managing to manfight the enemy's fed AM and Tiny
Is...is Alchemist actually viable now!?
This is a stick
How are you expected to wave the Magic Stick like a wand if its this big?
>join all pick
>show a carry and pick lane
>team locks in 4 other carry
>this game is now safe to leave
>poor network conditions have been detected and this game will not be assessed as an abandon
>our guy is in the group of death tomorrow
>get rekt because some other faggot picks carry jungle or carry offlane
>pick early game hero
>lose at the end anyway because our carry is shit or they picked a shit hero
so what do i do?
The new "collection" armory is the best update ever in the history of dota.
>having items in any order you like
>almost infinite space
>no pages, easily scroll around it
>able to move groups of items ezy pzy
>can leave the crap items you have for trading/betting/whatever outside of the "collection"
yeah i'm glad you can play barbie dress up doll better now you fucking faggo lmao (lick my ass orally)
spoopy champion october finally let me down :( I guess the experiment is over
It's not about buying items you dumb fuck, obviously carries have high stat gain so they benefit from having their main stat (and usually their highest +gain stat by far) giving them not only attack speed AND damage, but also more EHP through armor as well.
the only item worth mentioning is butterfly which strength heroes don't enjoy buying, which gives a huge EHP increase as well as damage and AS to agility heroes
Where were you when this zipzap scat-tricity motherfucker came from almighty heaven to fuck Windranger shitpickers?
So why on the US servers there are SO MANY FUCKING NON ENGLISH SPEAKING FUCKERS.
All talking to each other but never in english
Never say anything but XD when they fuck up and blame the people they aren't duo with
>go Dragon Knight with Omni vs Bloodcyka and Axe
>axe and BS are retarded
>kill Axe twice as he attempts to dive through the tower to pull a wave at level 2 and then 4 because I have a 3 second stun you idiot
>BS and Axe get destroyed in lane
>their Crystal maiden, Sniper and Faceless Void get fed as fuck as we get rolled
>get right clicked to death
>still kill Axe when he has 2 items over our team because even though he's got 2k health and 60% damage resistance he's an idiot with 2k health and 60% damage resistance
>FC tries to ult me lolnodmg
>sniper still melts me
>lose horribly to faceroll heroes because Omni gets pissed at our Drow for some reason and teamwork goes out the window
Ahh, so this is ranked.
It's not worth it is it?
>Mfw 1.8k mmr
I want to improve, but I feel I make no progress with ranked. I win a game, I lose a game and then I'm back to where I started.
>these dumb motherfuckers just missed Huskar 1v5'ing Fnatic and getting a Rampage after a fight erupted during a Rosh attempt
>all because they tried to multicast another game, when they can barely cast one correctly
I'm fucking done with this stream. Guess EU/China will have to do.
ffs that was so based
it sucks that pre-ti4 was so hype with multicast and the ti4 hub, but ti4 itself sucked
and then pre-ti5 was boring as shit the hubs sucked, boring set up with no bruno anywhere
maybe this majors shit will revive it if GD/dreamleague studio get all the euros together at the house
reaching 4k felt really good for me, my brain was happy and releasing those happy chemicals that make me smile.
Sometimes i work had on other stuff and after I finish it it feels like always
but with dota was different
smh this hero really sucks
>not enjoying Chinese cartoons as well as Vidya
You're missing out
1k = you're new to dota and similiar games
2k = you're starting to get the hang of the game
3k = you've played league/hon/dota 1 casually before and/or you now are aware of all the basic mechanics of the game
4k = people who've played for a long time and/or worked on improving their mechanics, game knowledge, etc. you're better than the majority of players, but still considered ''bad'' in online communities or among competitive people.
5k = 4ks who are more consistent with their play
6k = leaderboards
people will talk about spamming certain heroes, mmr inflation, etc.
truth is there are a lot of reasons why people are at a certain mmr. not everyone is the exact same.
1k = killyourself tier
2k = People who play the game but will never be good at it
3k = Players who don't know how to play correctly but has better mechancs than the lower tier.
4k = players who know what they are doing but still make retarded mistakes
5k = they rarely make mistakes but still inferior mechanically to 6ks
6k+ = congrats with your autism
he makes entire teams a joke if they rely on mana without having huge pools, invoker has always been a hero that people consider high skill but honestly emp tornado and a lot of autoattack dmg just wins games if you pick ti right
magnus, clock and batrider can be really fun if you like mobility and fight
radiance naga can be extremly orgasmic hearing all the coins drop from three lanes at the same time
idk maybe a lane dominance hero? like viper
Does anybody know what happened to that fluffiest bunny girl? She was crapping on about something on twitter and her stream has lost a few viewers.
the only answer is tiny
you piss off nerds early in the game by comboing with some cheese shit, piss off nerds midgame by instantly one shotting them with blink, and late game by fucking over their base in 2s flat
>Mirana has 10 thousand agility buff
>still do no damage
>have 6k mmr
>dont attention whore / stream / guidefag it up
>try to discuss strategy rationally with other dotards
>realize 99% of people talking are clueless 1-3ks, especially on reddit, and its impossible to argue a point logically without attaching dox of my mmr like its a signature
why is this community so shit. The only other people who want to discuss the game are shit at it and every 2k scrub whos following what he saw on stream thinks hes the best ever and just kept down by forced 50% muh calibration
You need to say your mmr before your agrument to get the upperhand.
>Team is ultimately the reason I lose every game
>truly, there is no memeing around this
>playing support and kill mid, jungle, offlane and safelane carry
>get undermined by teammates not committing
>destroy 4 stack obs
>feed on purpose
>they all cry that I'm an antigamer and ruining the games
>they dont realize I'm simply returning the favor