>Shadows of Olympus (November 3)
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>The Reaping: Part II (October 30 - November 1)
>New Game Mode: Clash
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Still waiting for Star Platinum Ravana
Does this game actually have an implemented ELO/Ladder Ranking system like LoL/DotA/HoN?
All I can find is some third party website (smite.guru) and some ladders on the official websites in which people have like 30 matches and not been seen for a month+.
YES! YES! YES!
>No Boudicca tier 3 for Bellona
>No Legionaire tier 2 for Bellona
Does Hi-rez even know their target audience?
>based ao kuang
>urchin 3rd item
>top dmg by a mile
why arent you playing urchin kuang yet?
Start is Bumbas, rank 1 rod, 1 mana pot 1 hp pot
Full build is
Pen boots > Spear > Urchin > Rod > poly > Chronos pendant
sometimes I get soul reaver over chronos last depending if I need cdr or not
You are gona be weak until you get pen boots like always with ao, but you should stil get beads 1 before finishing pen boots. Spear 2nd gives you a massive spike and with pen boots and spear you are shitting out dmg for another 10mins without any more dmg items.
Sell bumbas for rod when you need the last 500g, unless your team is getting buttfucked and you are sharing every camp with people
The urchin literally lets you do whatever you want as long as your beads are up. You can even use your 1 as agressively as you want
Farming. Recent meta usually has strong sustain/clear gods in middle getting two levels ahead of their teammates. Report movement and let the other midlaner poke into you more to expose them to ganks.
You guys always mention how lucky Bart is because he is dating Kelly but i think its the other way around.
Kelly is a fucking nerd and Bart is the really cool guy.
Kelly is the lucky one lmao.
He works for a sub par gaming company as a caster and a community manager, and regularly visits this board. His thing on twitch also used to be wearing a large assortment of random ass goofy hats and sunglasses.
Youre right, hes not a nerd, if anything hes a retard.
I view women watching anime different than men for some reason.
When a woman watches it for the cute characters and shit its whatever, men watching it for the same reason is creepy.
Men watching shit like Highschool of Death or whatever the fuck its called, those other anime that are solely love stories and convenient angles for fan service makes a weeb. Buying those pillows and posters and crap.
this is why men should watch toku.
guys in suits beating the crap out of monsters.
fuck gay romance and that gay shit
Is this supposed to be like live action anime.
Willing to bet most of it is as bad as the old power rangers shows.
I dunno man, I watch anime, but none of that romance cutsie 29 year old that looks like a 7 year old crap. Basically just the main stream main character beating the shit out of everything shows. Id die before I have a piece of anime paraphernalia though.
welp.. i main ao kuang, but no on conquest apparently, my ao is mast8 and i almost dont play conquest at all, just for the first wins.
soo i decided to play some league games, and tried with ao jungler, i've tried him jg before and most of the time it went horribly bad, but now i know a lot more conquest than before, so i tried him this time, with a little fear to mess my k/d ratio but whatever.
i ended 0/9, i was lvl7 while the enemy serquet was lvl11, and my whole team was blaming me and spamming uninstall, AND I DON'T HAVE IDEA OF WHAT WENT WRONG, i wasnt afking, i ganked a lot one lane that was suffering, i tried not to ks, and i was constantly moving, taking small camps and ganking
i asked my team, and they just said: "ao jg is currently bad" and i most assume that serquet is op af since is permabanned on all the games
what went wrong? did i really need to stop trying ao on conquest, until he gets buffed? or i'm doing something wrong? pls help, i really enjoy playing ao
Your team is retarded, Ao is still one of the better junglers, you probably just had a bad game, or you were out matched.
But yea, Serqet has been the best god in the game since her release.
kinda, power rangers original footage comes from a 1992 toku show tho.
New stuff is kinda cool, just don't expect very deep plots.
>mfw people think that clash is anything other than irredeemable shit
The server where they test patches before they go to the main client.
If you want to try it, go here
Kumbha is fantastic, people just suck, Nemesis is a niche pick and usually ends up a support type jungler, giving others kills instead of getting them, Vulcan isnt bad again people just suck.
Nigger it was a pun. Like someone cares about what kind of taste you meant.
The joke was on how you were talking about literally tasting something and how we use the phrase "taste" to show degrees of preference. I don't know if you do this with other people but god damn, I can't see how you didn't get that.
>I have 0% winrate with her
Oh fuck. How do I play her? I'm not a bad player, but I can't do shit with serquet.
What do we know about these shadow skins? They're going to be clan point, but do I buy them with the individual points I've amassed or my clan has amassed? Do we know how much they're going to be.
nope he's awful. I guess you could put him in B-tier if you wanted to, but he sucks. Super weak early and can't clear. Just begging to be invaded, and bullied out of mid camps and every other camp.
Your attack order is blink > Optional ult depending on their health and if you're in a teamfight > Taunt > Dash through them 3 times > Auto or two> Leap away
If they're not dead by then you're building wrong or fell behind. Makes sure you're grabbing crits.
>Be Nu Wa
>Thanatos ults to land on Ullr
>See he is just above threshold
>Ult so that as he's landing Ullr falls below threshold.
well, they're working on making Ravana not suck so bad which is good. Literally never see him played and when he rarely is he does horribly.
Arachne might get something. I just think her kit is boring. 2 steroids for your auto attack and an ult that's basically Guan Yu's, but only hits once for damage and no actual CC. Again the only time I've ever seen her do well is if the team she's on is already snowballing to victory
I'm grinding the next few days because I have a 3 day booster
from my only free Odyssey chest I got all weekend, fucking bullshit
Does it boost your clan honor too? ive never noticed
smite.guru is the website you want. It's a shit way to measure how good a player is, don't go by it. It should only be used when someone's unranked, and even then it's a ballpark estimate at most. 1500 is average (which is still shitter level), while 2000 is more along the lines of decent.
Also beware of inflated score, partying up oftentimes raised this score artificially.
You must've been spending it madly or not been playing very much then. You get over 700 a week just from logging in.
No it does not, and sorry to hear about the booster. Grouping up with members of the clan can give you a multiplier on honor rate though.
How do people act like they have no idea how to play?
Did they patch it so that Mystical Mail doesn't proc Guan Yu's passive anymore? I didn't see it filling while playing with him earlier and that's really the only reason I ever bought it on him
>Play some conquest
>Everyone calls roles
>One guy who didn't say anything locks Merc and says he's going solo
>Ne zha who was supposed to be solo has downs
>They duo solo
>I still get first blood 2v1 duo lane
>Team gives up second blood
>I turn my computer off
Yeah, it's not it. I don't really like to play leagues, but I guess if that's the best way to escape shitters then fine. I don't even give a shit if you follow the meta, if I was able to get first blood against khumba/Hou yi on a 2v1 then you better be busting your fucking ass to keep up with me. Don't make my game harder, especially when I can carry.
Leagues is very hit or miss. Two games ago I was in a game with 5 competent players, all in voice communication, that knew the fundamentals of their roles, and listened to my calls. One game ago I was in a game with no one curse, and complete disorganization with terrible calls. We were even winning until the worst fire giant call of all time, that myself and our hades tried to dissuade the rest from, but failed. We got wiped and lost off that.
The best part about leagues is that you can captain people and tell them how to play. If you sound confident and intelligent and have a higher rank than them you can usually get them to listen to your calls.
It's plenty alive, but look at it this way;
If we assume the average game time across all modes and including surrenders is 20 minutes, 500 matches of that is a total of 10,000 minutes or 166 hours played. Nearly every game ever made wasn't aimed at having players do more than 100 hours before they get tired of it, and even for a MOBA that's a long time.
People quit sometime after 100 hours in, then come back a while later to try the game again. Rinse and repeat.
Whoops! Mistook favor for honor. Yeah it's a crazy grind (Saving up as much as I can currently), and the only way to increase your honor is party up with as many people from the clan as you can. I'm sure that now it's an actual currency, HiRez will include double weekends for it too.
Buy recolors with favor from this list: https://www.reddit.com/r/Smite/comments/3qm9fh/clan_store_chest_items/ so that you don't get them when you roll. You still need to roll at least 3 times in a chest to get the next tier, but it can save you some extra tries for those shadow skins.
Kumbha has even shittier scaling than Zhong, prioritize CDR , and a bit of pen to make his base damage do work.
Something like magi's shoes / breastplate / renewal or spirit robe / ethereal / void stone / soul reaver or situational defensive
>and even for a MOBA that's a long time.
100 hours are literally nothing for a competitive game. I can hardly think of one that doesnt require at least twice that much to properly understand the basics. It just seems weird to me, since 166 hours are something that anyone remotely serious about a game will probably burn in less than a month.
I cant see how you can get anywhere in CS, Quake, SC, SF, GG, DotA, LoL with that amount of playtime, but then again maybe people just scrim, who knows.
thanks for the link senpai
Of course I've only got like 3 of the recolors on that list. Guess I'm going to go grab Sylvanus's recolor to make Isis easier to get. At least his is pretty
Thing is, most players are casual. They'll be wannabe pros at most, and move on to the next green pasture like a crop rotation.
Most players also don't play 6 hours of Smite a day
Oh, and there's a sixth item in each chest not listed. It's a
>Thing is, most players are casual.
Thing is I am specifically talking about the people in 'Masters League' who shouldnt really be casual to remain at that level, right? And when most of them only have ~500 matches for 9 months then that seems a bit odd to me.
I didnt even check Bronze players, but the people who are at the top of the league.
Oh yeah those guys. A lot of them can simply be explained by them being alt-accounts. Back when they were new they did their qualifiers and did shit, and now that they've gotten a lot better they make a new account to be put into a higher place after qualifiers and escape ELO hell.
If you're looking at pros specifically, many don't even play SMITE much and just scrim.
My issue with ranked at the current moment is that I keep getting matched with pros.
Cabom, Aror, MLC, Barra, and Zapman were the 5 that were in my last 3 games, not all at the same time of course but you get my point.
Me too! Except I'm not good and they're always on the other team :(
Did arena with Pray and Insec on my team though, we dominated, and despite my inability to speak Korean, they added me, so that was nice. Then they never logged on again
Id say Im fairly decent, Id wager I could get into masters eventually, but every time I get matched with pros they are against me, and I have no masters on my team.
The only time I got matched with a pro was Zapman, and he fed with Arachne Jungle 2-7.
is there any particular reason serqet is still so overpowered?
a dash, a leap, a crit ability, stealth, taunt, knockback, 100% healing reduction, and % based damage, why the fuck does 1 god need all that shit?
shes easily been the best god in the game since she was released, yet they have made absolutely no effort to balance her, why?
We need a "Bellona" for each role I guess.
is there any particular reason aphrodite is still so overpowered?
A heal, a knockback/slow that can hit someone TWICE, one of the only two passives in the game that give people mana, a stun, 20% damage boost she can apply to her adc, and fucking multiple seconds of incincibility, why the fuck does 1 god need all that shit?
Most gods sound really strong unless you say what makes them bad too. If you look at Serqet's kit, there's nothing that's inherently the problem. The real issue with her is how well blink works with it, and that's the sole reason she's in S+ tier.
If she had to initiate by losing her escape or slowly walking up to people it'd be one thing, but blink has allowed her super mobility with up to 3 escapes. There's no way (at least as far as I can think of) to fix this without removing the point in playing her.
Bumba's > Pen Boots > Chronos Pendant/Spear > Chronos Pendant/Spear > Polynomicon > Tahuti > sell Bumba's for Soul Reaver
Have fun one-shotting people. Decide on whether to get Chronos Pendant/Spear depending on how fed you are at that point.
This patch, tier 3 clan reward.
Still mad Bellona got a full skin less than a month after release. They knew exactly how strong she was when they released her, and knew players would be slobbering over that thing.
>tfw no love for Arachne, HunBatz, Chronos, Vamana, Ravana or Zhong Kui
It's still what makes Serqet so good. Only things nerfed were the cooldown and how long you can be out of combat before using it again; AKA it didn't affect her diddly shit. It's still a great initiation tool and if you're performing a gank more than once every minute you're gonna be underfarmed.
Blink is not what makes Serqet so good, it helps, but its not the reason. He reason Serqet is so good is all the shit thats crammed into her kit, there is no reason she has so many mechanics in her kit.
Shes going to be overpowered until they remove either her percent based damage, or her ability to crit on her 1. And even if they did that she would still be a top jungler, if not still broken.
But they are outclassed by Janus, Aphro, Wa, Thor, Serq and (insert Gaurdian here)
No, that'd remove most of her burst. Her damage numbers are similar in performance to other similar assassins such as Awilix, the reason why pros pick her is the mobility. She'd still be good without the blink, but then she'd just be par of the course with other ones. I know you don't like her but gimping her to the point where she can't do what she's supposed to is a shit way to go about it.
You lose it sadly.
She would still be good without the percent based damage or the crit ability.
Im all for removing the crit because that would force people to either build her for basics, using rage and DB to compliment her percent based damage, or build straight power to get the best out of her 1.
Her 1 would easily still do more damage than any other ability assassin built straight power.
I could really care less what they do to her, as long as it nerfs her, shes easily the best god in the game and shes going to remain that way until they give her the nerf she deserves.
Zhong is totally different from other mages. He's super tanky and his damage is better vs. certain enemies because it's channeled in an area, so low mobility characters like Hel get eaten alive. He's definitely not outclassed, he is unique. Batz is worse than Thor or Serqet but those will get picked or banned out everygame so he has a place.
Chronos is really good on paper but doesnt fit in the current meta so it's better to leave him than break him. Ravana, Vamana and Arachne definitely need some love though.
I'm pretty new to this game. I like playing Guardians it seems, so what's the best starting item in Conquest for them? The in-game builds use Mark of the Vanguard but it really feels like Watcher's Gift is way better?
Late xth for new Arachne skin when.
Also xth for the Anti-Athena Alliance
it depends on which pne you pick and how you play them. the mark gives you the early tankiness that lets you play aggressively, while watchers lets you play more passively with the bonus gold and regen. if you use the mark and dont secure some kills for youre adc, the enemy guardian with watchers is going to get quite a bit more gold than you
>You will never "Enter Sol" like the god reveal tells you to
>Game is down
>post other games you play while Smite is down
Shitty F2P Korean games, because I'm poor.
> 2 gb update for a couple skins and balance changes
god damn the steam version is a piece of shit
Something that fills me with determination!
Its the announcer packs, we got them earlier this friday, we'll get ragnatoskr next week.
>"Following the release of our last goddess Sol, we had an internal meeting regarding this topic and decided that there were some elements of her implementation that were distracting from what was, at its core, a very strong character design. We made some changes to correct for this."
Fucking shits took out her buttcrack after they finished her, she probably had nipples too.
The smite reddit is a cesspool of entitled Little shits.
Anyone that doesnt agree with their point of view gets downvoted into oblivion, I really puzles my why Hi-Rez would ever use it as an oficial fórum.
Germanic Daytime Goddess
Also known as Frig, Fri
She is the presumed Anglo-Saxon forerunner of Norse FRIGG. Because she was best friends with VENUS, the Saxons decided to borrow Venus’s day and turn it into FRIGE’s day. So thank FRIGE it’s Friday."
Also Celtic, African, Voudou and Native American pantheons when?
Already got a skin for her
>not wanting her to stare at you with her cold, dead eyes.
Don't open the webm.
But billboards are flat. Next time bait harder.
>mfw that was actually trying harder
So how do we fix Chronos? He can definitely smash it out but he plateaus quite quickly and stops progressing before many other gods cap. Even a fed Chronos can't save a game with his limited mobility.
Look Kelly, those types of articles only have effect on twitter/reddit, here people see it for what it actually is. Just some other person attention whoring "look everyone I am a girl and im in a male enviorment, I should be praised and recognized" Why should she when she is the one who chose to get into it, nobody forced you to do it, your goal was probably to end up saying that you made it so other people could put you in a pedestal for "omg such a stronk womyn."
Fuck off, if you play the game it should be because you enjoy it. I fucking hate the whole GG thing that brought this discussion into the industry. Congratulations you are a female who chose to play video games for a living. But dont try to guilt me into praising you because you chose to go o a fight uphill just because you wanted people to praise you, you should do it because you enjoy it and it truly is your passion in life. But thats just my opinión, take it as you will.
To feel like they've done something.
If I recall HiREZ adopted the system of player behavior tiers: more reported but light offense players get a lower match making tier with other dicknoses.
>start a match
>teammates are already spamming laugh and taunt
>first fight comes up and we do really well
>we take a really good lead and keep it the entire match
That was the best team I've had in a long ass time
yeah but Lydia is shit and stupid.
Not because she's a women but because she's stupid.
Also mogee is kinda right, nobody white knights a male streamer but people do flirt with them from time to time.
thanks anon, your advice saved my blind ass
I feel like a retard now
anyways time for those last 95 FP til Dr Vanus
>tryhard team member complains that people don't call roles
>mfw im a shitter who only play one character, don't know the meta or how 90% of the characters work and just buys recommended items
I want to thank you personally Kelly, for shedding a light on this issue on twitter. Because as a boy playing smite I've been hit on, made to feel shame and attacked on a personal level and it's not always fun playing this game when those things occur and it's not always as easy to phase it out like white noise.
She's really not, she's pretty average. Yes anon, he tits are showing, try to ha e some self respect and standard and don't just scramble for what literally every woman has. She best thing she has going for her is good skin, everything else is mediocre at best. Her tits don't even look that good, kinda flabby if you ask me, and average sized. Just because she's showing cleavage doesn't mean you have to fall in love.
This looks extremely fun, especially the blend between Neith ult & Rama ult.
>want to play conquest
>solo queueing is shit and no friends to play with
also how do i build ravana incase i actually want to play that useless faggot once in my life in a mode that doesnt matter
Very excited. I like his passive since you can kind of support your support with it in addition to just getting better healing over all. His 1 and 2 sound like they'll be a lot of fun to pull off. His 3 basically sounds like Sun Wukong's ox transformation which is fine. His ult could be tricky to pull off but very satisfying. Basically Rama's ult if you were firing it like Neith's
Ok guys serious question, what should we get Seth to select as the clan's icon? I nominate:
>Assault Diamond achievement
>The Push achievement
>The HiRezTroll icon (that way people think we're just trolling and not just shit)
>HiRezPonPon icon if we can get Pon to give Seth a code for it
>No Serqet nerf
>No Vamana rework
>No Puch buff
>No sprint/hog buff
>BMBrandon goes on a long rant about harassment
>Proceeds to shittalk the Hun Batz in his very next game
>mfw hypocrisy at it's finest
>convention bundle is already up
>just barely shy on gems right now to buy it
>eh, fuck it i'll buy some gems
>there's some kind of $4 pack that gives you 400 gems, Stargazer Anubis and his VP
>don't have the skin or VP
>Oh neat Anubis is getting a convention skin
>It's fucking nothing
this is not okay.
Difference is they actually look cool
They could have made Anubis dark-red colored like a hellhound or something
It just looks plain the way it is right now, barely different from his standard.
See I don't even know what that means and idgaf. I play for fun.
if you fall for this bait, there's no coming back
What is it about Ravana kills that are so satisfying
Turns out, if you already have items that are in the clan chest, you still have to buy 3 of them to unlock the next one. Every chest you buy after unlocking everything gives you a booster. That's fucking retarded.
>tfw odin ults you but you just jump right out
Can't keep the monkey in a cage!
His other skins already have dark colored skin, if they had picked a darker color I bet you people would be complaining about it as well.
The skin is not a bad recolor, and its very different than the regular skin. Its just that you people are infuriatingly retarded and need to complain about things that aren't even there.
>Chiron's kit has been datamined
>Passive- Every 12 seconds, Chiron collects herbs to create a poultice. Chiron recieves +10% healing for each poultice he carries. Max 3 stacks. Upon activating an ability, Chiron heals the lowest health god within 30 units for [50+4 /God level] over 5 seconds.
Healing numbers don't seem to be right.
>1. Chiron warns his allies to flee, cleansing them so they can escape before his attack explodes. Damages all enemies within. 70/125/180/235/290(+80% scaling)
Hel Cleanse for allies + damage to enemy gods. Cleanse appears instant while the damage comes after a short delay.
>2a. Passive- Chiron's auto attacks mark the target and reduce physical protections by 3%.
>2b. Activate- Chiron fires auto-aimed projectiles in a cone at marked targets. Enemies are slowed for 3 seconds. 55/100/145/190/235 (+70% scaling). Slow scales 25/27.5/30/32.5/35%.
No, it's not auto aim in the sense of Nu Wa's ult. It's a cone attack that maybe only hits targets that have been hit by an auto attack.
>3. Chiron dashes forward, knocking up minions, and kicking enemy gods behind him. 70/95/120/145/160 (+50% scaling)
>4. Chiron turns into a constellation and can fire his massive bow 3 times over great distances. If he dies before the ultimate is finished, he will instead die after he has fired all 3 times. 100/145/190/235/280 (+90% scaling)
The shots from the ultimate apply the passive mark from his 2. There is no mention of decreasing power from distance and/or from shooting through walls.
>they don't even give Arachne a shadow skin.
>reach mastery level 10 with zhong kui before patch
>a few weeks later he gets a buff
Missed out on that extra tankiness but whatever. Good to see him get some love, definitely my favorite mage
You ignorant retarded pieces of shit, they are this year's main sponsors. Last year's was curse (they are still sponsoring the game, but to a smaller scale). Of course they'll be featured on the logos and merchandise.
Do people really think Vamana needs a buff?
>has decent defenses and respectable attack
>his 1 can help you escape / catch up to an opponent
>his 2 does good damage
>his 3 clears waves with ease
>ult great for knocking down towers by yourself or turning the tables on a battle
At least I have had success with him in the solo lane.
>need to reinstall the game to update it
Nice game Jew-Rez
You can't escape us
I play on Xbone, I know that already!
Do what I did last year and wait until they launch the last odyssey item, them buy the cheapest shit, optional: actually buy things you want while trying to still get most of the rewards.
you have to buy at least 3 items from the chest to unlock the next one to be available, so it's worth buying 2 of the 4 recolors in each chest so that you don't end up with a shadow skin and 2 boosters or have to buy the chest 5 times and waste honor
>play against He Bo
>hits like a fucking truck
>play as He Bo
>feels like I'm gently caressing their buttocks with a feather
how do I build He Bo to shit damage? It feels like I'm not doing anything when I hit with his abilities but when I'm playing against him it feels like he's ripping chunks of m health out
Learn the other best Warrior.
i had 16k honor in a game i literally do not give a fuck about minus like 2 characters
i did not care what i got from the chests at all. nothing in them interested me minus sunbreaker hou yi to finish my hou yi collection
Throw shield into wave to clear wave.Throw shield behind enemy to fight from a distance, then hit them with the chain lightning. Chain lightning off of the shield to get stacks on someone from far away. Dont detonate till there are three stacks.
Just tried an arena game with her to get my bearings. What the fuck happened to Qin's? What the fuck happened to Sprint? I have brought shame to my convention skin.
Now how the fuck do I build Kali? The same, but shittier?
Some items require you to get last hits in order to "stack" their passive. (I.E. Devourer's Gloves)
Some gods have passives that require you to get kills to stack their passive. (I.E. Xbal)
That's being angry for you? I swear, tumblr and reddit has made everyone little sensitive bitches and the internet is being ruined beyond salvation.
No, I simply think that you are as dumb as most of the smite subreddit, complaining without even knowing why.
>expecting a con skin to be more than a recolor
I was expecting good colors look at Kali, Art and Guan, fucking derelict cunt
>no actual argument
It's fucking /tf2g/ all over again.
So what are the odds we get the actual Chiron reveal tomorrow? He sounds cool from his leaked ability descriptions
The icon for his passive is weird though. I don't know what a blue orb is supposed to matter for collecting healing herbs
What's the optimal Loki build? Trying to git gud with him. Been building bumba > boots >Jottuns > soul eater >hydra >rage >replace Bumbas with Deathbringer. Ability order I've been starting with decoy to clear camps then going 4>1>3>2
inb4 build ring of repick. I want the mastery and to justify getting this fucking mariachi skin
>playing unranked conquest
>literally every game someone is ready to throw jungle or just jg in and lock an assassin
Why is this? Just out of curiosity? I consider jungler to be the hardest role just because the tide of battle can turn quickly if you aren't rotating well or clearing camps fast enough and you let the other team score kills by not ganking at the right time or ganking and getting yourself blown up.
And I sometimes see great junglers that stomp shit in but mostly they just fuck up royally. I'm sure for a lot of them they're just learning the role, but why the fuck is that role so desired? No one ever spams solo as fast as they can
Junglers rarely have to fight off other junglers
You make "sick plays"
All it is, is prioritizing and rotating wisely
the hardest I think is mid because you can get your shit kicked in by a better counter, can't help gank duo in time and may not secure your mids.
I'd agree, most of Loki players suck. But I've played with and against few that really implanted course of team fight.
Which shouldn't be hard to do, you just target Mage or ably low def/health enemy. But most people still fail at that
>Nemesis is useless
Well, she could go on to please even more old men for gold now.
>tfw Nemesis's dirtiest part right in front of you
Soul eater is fine on Osiris/Bell
you get hp, as, and lifesteal
it has a good aura passive, ASI is fine for boxing and pen but you'll already have exec and ich, and frostbound is not a substitute considering fatalis does no damage and sprint is fuckall useless.