Azazel is ez mode edition
Last thread: >>121173264(Cross-thread)
>What does "item" do?
>What is "thing" on the post-it note?
Top row: Mom's Heart/It Lives, Isaac, Boss Rush
Middle row: Satan, ???, The Lamb
Bottom row: Mega Satan, Greed Mode, Hush
>What is Hush/Blue Womb?
New boss in a new area that opens when you beat Mom's Heart before the 30th minute.
>How to unlock The Lost?
Please note that the seeds are from Rebirth, and don't work in Afterbirth anymore.
1. Isaac must die to a Mulliboom in one of the Basement floors. Mulliboom seed: FHRD S1N1 (Go into the large room above the starting room. You can easily die from full health in here to them.) Or if not: JTMD EZPF (one is directly below - Normal difficulty)
2. Magdalene must die to her own bomb in one of the Caves floors. (Pyro Seed: ALFA 0NTZ)
3. Judas must die to Mom's Foot as Judas in one of the Depths or Necropolis floors. Good Seed: 8LDE 8XDX (Wait on using the Joker till the 3rd floor and avoid the devil rooms and you'll get the sacred heart. You also get the Sad Onion on the first floor.
4. Azazel must die to Satan in Sheol (his blood/laser form or hooves, NOT leeches or The Fallen). You must NOT use a seed.
Are there any new achievements related to beating everything with everyone on hard mode?
Basically is there any reason to play on hard mode now, unlike before where I only had to get up to mom's heart to unlock everything?
350 - Nulcear symbol, poisons the room as you enter
351 - Earthquake bean, Space bar
365 - Lost Fly, heads for a wall and skims it dealing damage
367 - Bomb. Apparently sticks to enemies and flies release upon explosion (Thanks to TheSwiftTiger)
371 - I think it was giving me The Tower effect on getting hit?
378 - Chance to make poop bomb on firing tears (Thanks to TheSwiftTiger)
385 - Bumbo, familiar, eats coins, gets bigger as it eats. Starts shoots once it makes it's first transform
390 - Seraphim, familiar, just fires tears I guess?
398 - Mushroom, shoots a blue tear (based on luck?) that shrinks an enemy if it hits
403 - Spidermod, familiar, crashes without a fix atm.
415 - Crown of something, lets you shoot diamond tears. Getting hit removes the effect and the crown goes grey
416 - Some kind of passive item, not really sure.
419 - Gold teleporter thing. Brought me to a room with enemies and upon using it over and over would keep bringing me to the same room until the enemies were killed? space bar item
420 - Salt dropper, you leave a trail of salt(i guess it's salt) and when you form a circle, it creates a pentagram and anything in it gets damaged. not sure about dmg level and it looks like the trail fades, so the faster you are the bigger the circle you can make?
426 - Obsessed Fan, familiar, on a 3 second delay, follows your movement, same way Multidimentional Baby does.
429 - GREED HEAD - you shoot fucking coins. tested giving myself 10, 50 and 99 coins, dmg did not appear to go up.
430 - Papafly, familiar Same as Obsessed Fan in movement (3 second delay, follows your movements) but when near an enemy fires tears
435 - Lil Loki!! Familiar with Loki's Horn tear effect (4 way cross shot)
436 - Milk familiar. When hit makes a milk puddle. No idea what the puddle does.
439 - Some box that drops a random trinket when you use it.
441 - Mega Satan Brim, active, shoots a giant mega Satan brim for what seems to be 15-20 seconds, and makes it very hard to move.
Look in the achievements list.
See all those new faggoty co-op babies?
Those are for beating shit on hard. Have fun.
Only things I have left
>Greed Mode, Hush, Mega Satan as the Lost
And they're all impossible.
>It's a "5% chance to have something happen upon getting hit" item
>get lil' chest first floor item room
>AW YEA SON
>get i can see forever
>lodsecoins in secret room
>go to shop through secret room
>1 bomb in inventory
>only 10 coins in stock
>nowhere near 999 donation
there is no mercy in isaac
none at all
Greed mode with the lost is easy
Just use the D4 on the item from the free room until you get explosive tears, then use your tears on the reroller machine until you get gnawed leaf and daddy longlegs
>go on wiki
>this item/trinket does a thing sometimes in a blue moon
>fret not, at 75 luck, it triggers every time
>can't remember the last time I had more than a single luck-up pill, let alone multiple luck-up items
Easily my least favorite items.
>tfw I think greed mode with azazel is hard
>I got real platinum god
I just can't deal with short range bullshit, I can't be getting all up in the harder enemies' faces like that.
You can actually get decent levels of luck in Afterbirth if you get lucky pennies.
Before, you'd never have more than like 2 bars of luck. You can easily get to 4 or 5 if you're playing blood banks and stuff.
Speed isn't impossible, it is just a bitch. I managed to get it done purely by luck on my second try.
Dr Fetus on the first floor
Ipacac on the second floor (caused bombs to explode on contact, which is new, but still behave like bombs, it also made me immune to my own blast damage for some reason, but not normal bombs nor other sources of explosions)
And dunce cap, completely by accident on the next floor, amusingly, this was very beneficial, as it caused the bombs to hit each other immediately, causing both bombs to explode as soon as I hit fire. One shot pretty much everything.
Isaac the fight is Isaac's previous view of himself, as some sort of immaculate perfect christian boy who has no sin whatsoever, like God. Killing Isaac is you accepting your own sin and destroying your previous thoughts of yourself.
It's just a theory.
it's a game feature that permanently unlocks when you donate 1 cent to greed
there's a chance of pennies boosting your luck by 1 level when you pick them up. it's not rare, but it's uncommon.
glass cannon: does one enormous huge damage tear, but drops your HP to half a heart (it's free if you have no red hearts)
fetus in a jar: turns your tears into lit bombs that explode. since you have brimstone, you'll fire out bombs while charging up your beam.
Oh, goddamnit, shut the fuck up with that shit.
So much cringe. His content isn't even half bad, but when he closes out with that line, I just feel like wanting to punch something.
It's like poetry, yknow? Every scene kinda rhymes with the last one
It's helecopter soldier all over again...
Since when the fuck does Steam do updates at fucking 2:00AM EST, you gullible ding dongs?
FUCK YOU EDMUND I PAID FOR A FUCKING SEVEN DOLLAR STEAK AND YOU ONLY GAVE ME THREE DOLLARS WORTH JUST GIVE ME THE FUCKING STEAK YOU FAT FAGGOT
Reminder that ed lives in long beach and it's barely 11 over there so one more hour.
Yeah, and I'm sure we'll get MGS V chapter 3 as well.
I'm gonna go to sleep, When i wake up tomorrow im expecting that fucking OPENGL fix so i can play the damn dlc i paid for. If it isn't there im gonna post a picture of mako for no apparent reason.
And after that you'll tell us that Edmund's grandfather had shellshock from the war, so he always lives 109 minutes in the past, so the game will update 109 minutes after it's 12 at Edmund's place.
Cambion Conception is pretty neat, I guess.
Also, easy way to get Super Meat Boy achievement.
It's not all bad, the Incubus' Ipecac doesn't explode if it hits a wall, so you can't fuck yourself up
Goddamnit, you guys. First MGS V, now with this game.
Rused twice in 2 months. I want to get off of Mr. Bones' wild ride. Fuck you guys, I'm going to bed.
god I hope this blows right the fuck up in McMuffin's face
he did it, the fucking child really did it
there was no puzzle, he just forced everyone to wait because he's a whiny brat
As a piratefag, I don't know what the fuck is going on.
Ignore the time, Steam can't fucking count
>mfw I deleted my old file when I saw the unlock progression being fucked
>told myself I'd finish all the challenges first before I touch the real game
H-hope you guys have fun, I'll be here... raging at Solar System...
Yeah, with all the new battery items and the sacks in Afterbirth, it's pretty well-balanced now.
Well that kind of fucked the "Azazel is ez" mood of this thread
Probably just needs an update.
Going to do a Greed Run as Judas, I'll let you know as it goes.
>these huge Azazel and Lilith nerfs
Why? Seriously, why? Daily runs and chellenges have a predefined character, and you still have to use the other characters to get their unlocks. There was no good reason for nerfing them this hard, especially not Azazel, who has been that way for, what, a YEAR?
I'd be 120% fine with this (after all, a Stanley-deals unlockable character being the easiest babby tier character ever? Doesn't make sense), but they should REALLY have unlocked his mini-brim to synergize more with items now that it works like this.
>Expect happy fun time game
>Proceeds to give every character nerfs on cain levels
What the fuck mcmuffin?
Well done anon. Made me start up Life Gives You Lemons.
Yeah, for how risky he is to use against a lot of bosses, especially now, he should definitely have some better synergies.
And Azazel. They heavily nerfed the charge time on his minibrim.
Does it affect regular Brimstone too? Anyone?
Sweet timing on the update, just finished everything else I could think of.
Isn't DPS the most important thing in the game for normal characters?
Welp I could donate to 112. Also saw one of the locked-out items already.
Which is fine when you're starting out, but everyone with more than 20 hours in rebirth actively avoided playing him.
Hell, as soon as I got back into Rebirth, the first thing I did was knock out everything on Azazel so I wouldn't have to play such an unfun character again.
Now I might be somewhat tempted.
As for Lilith, it's also somewhat deserved. The box will now essentially be like Judas with Book of Belial instead of a crutch for your entire run
judas was good and fun because book of belial allowed you to guarantee yourself devil deals, something no other character could do
his low health + devil deals to sacrifice the little health he has, allowed him to be a glass cannon that required skill and decision making
now he literally just has the bonus damage from the book. it doesn't make up for his base health.
Here's that "Curse of the Tower" one of the dataminers mentioned
Works exactly how he described it
Eve is terrible. Give 5 reasons why she isn't.
Also what the fuck is that picture
>implying that someone who is childish enough to make you wait 109 hours for content would release patch notes.
Happened to me just now. Spent my 15c on it with great eagerness on ???.
My soul hearts were not ready....
>I added shitty items and nerfed everything fun. Take that dataminers >:)
haha another item ruined
Did you get the blinding baby achievement? I reimported my save, I spent 3 days doing the lost runs trying to beat everything with him (only had to beat hush and mega satan). I finally did it but I didn't get the blinding baby. I really hope I don't have to do it again
>all of these nerfs
>everyone freaking the fuck out
>mfw sitting back and loving every bit
WAAAH THIS GAME ISN'T ULTRA EASY MODE I WANT THIS TO BE LIKE MY COWADOODIES WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
because it's hard and doesn't hold your hand, and japan is a nation of casuals who play phone games
no cutscenes, no story, real time skill based gameplay, lots of collecting and exploring, secrets, only tutorial is a scribble on the first floor. it's pretty much the antithesis of modern japanese game design.
>Eve is terrible. Give 5 reasons why she isn't.
Literally becomes a better Judas if you just grow a pair and start the first floor by lowering your health to 1 heart. I don't understand how people can rank Eve lower than Judas.
What did I do to deserve this
i paid money for this game
this is just too much
I just wanted to have fun
it's not like every run is an instant win, or even a quarter of runs are
this wasn't necessary
>azazel nerfs kind of needed but why the fuck would they do it this late. I personally think he was fine, nothing wrong with some characters being easy and some being harder (although the lost is still way too far on the unfun bullshit scale)
>liliths is probably fine due to battery items and new ways to get batteries
>brimstone babby does more fucking damage than azazel now
>glass cannon is now basically worthless unless you plan to play the character like the lost
yeah go fuck yourself, its a single player game, there should be a nice range of items, not a few good and rest fucking garbage.
Whore of Babylon
A better Judas
Most fuckable Girl
Only shitters hate playing Eve.
Gives enemies HP bars and shows how much damage you do to them.
This was always the state of BoI in every version.
Wrath of the Lamb might be an almost exception-like high point. But WotL got some fair nerfs as well, a month or so down the line.
did they though? i always assumed dark souls was pretty much only popular in the west
they also gave shitward sword a 40/40 so basically fuck that publication, that game makes me cry at how bad it is
>Make it so only good character is isaac
>Lock out content for a few days because he's mad at data miners, punishing actual fans as well because why not
>Syrians coming to my country today
I honestly thought this expansion would take me to 1000 hours, now it just made me hate indie devs even more
You're fucking ridiculous, there were still a shitton of items added and items in the game that are mediocre at best and fucking garbage at worst (DUNCE CAP, Mom's Pearls, Epiphoria, Eden's blessing, Farting baby)
>>glass cannon is now basically worthless unless you plan to play the character like the lost
Still perfectly viable and balanced, honestly. I've had plenty of dead in the water runs where I would have totally taken the glass cannon for a better chance at completing the run.
Plus, consider that it's in the Item Room Pool, and thus available for most challenges.
as if that character needed even more items that are worthless on him. fucking fat fuck of a dev (or is it nicalis doing these fucking nerfs?)
I 100%'d original at 200 hours (minus the lost which I cheesed before it got patched because fuck that, trying it legit made the game go from fun but hard in cases to fuck you and your fun) and was hoping to get another 50-200, I feel like it might be much closer to 50 if that.
Killed by Mcmuffin for being too fun
I think I need to complete boss rush again to get it. I guess you have to complete the full note in Afterbirth to unlock babies, since I got the one for Lilith and Isaac which I did everything with.
I don't know if this was tested by someone but throwing chaos cards kills him again somehow.
>Time gated content
>Nerfing azazel this late into the games life
>They got rid of the pill/rune/card announcer instead of just making it optional
>4 charges on Lilith
Amazing patch dude
Rebirth was quite possibly my favourite game, I would play it when I was bummed to feel better about shit and hell half the time it would work really well.
When I saw that the game was getting an expansion I was hype as fuck and preordered that shit within an hour of it being announced. Playing what I was given feels like an insult, this isn't a game made by somebody wanting to continue a game or to please their fans. This is an expansion by a dev with a chip on his shoulder, he's punishing all of his fans because he was mad about the fact people datamined how to unlock his retarded unlockable lost shit. The blue womb which is pretty much the only new shit in the normal game would cause the game crash for people for the first 3 days. He made it so that the only character that is worth playing is isaac for god knows why and for some reason he buffed krampus but didn't give him an item pool to make it worth it. You lost a life long fan mcmillen, I hope your petty bullshit was worth it.
Did Epic Fetus + Brimstone do this before Afterbirth?
>~30% less damage, longer charge.
I've watched several of my favorite series/games turn to shit this year. Kill me now.
>Now I might be somewhat tempted.
Literally all they did was nerf his damage. All they changed was how long it takes for him to do anything.
People who actively avoided playing him aren't going to start now since he's exactly the same but takes longer.
I don't even wanna play. Who knows what else is still locked, my imported save's progression still seems janked, the goofy announcer that I liked is either broken or removed intentionally, and from a glance at reddit, there's some new bugs maybe.
Was it worth it, Fatmund? Couldn't you just release it in full, proper, not breaking my save file with your half-baked attempt at gating your content? Maybe I'll play this again once I had my fill with SW Battlefront, perhaps by then the game will be in it's "as was intended" shape.
Hey man, remember you can always disable the DLC and play normal Reborn if you wanted to.
Not everyone is thrilled, but your game is still there, you just need to remove the DLC :)
I'm just baffled by Ed's mindset in general.
>wants people excited for his game but doesn't want them actually looking for information about it
>wants people to have fun but actively removes anything that makes the game slightly less bullshit
It's like he subconsciously hates everyone.
What the fuck is he doing to the game?
He's quickly losing a long time fanboy. I'm definitely never preordering his shit again. They say don't preorder anything but I thought Afterbirth was a safe bet. How could it be fucked up? It couldn't.
>You cant continue runs after Hush anymore, just get a golden chest
So is Epic Fetus, so is Brimstone, so is Quad Shot, so is anything good.
BoI was never balanced and it should never be, some items are better than others, yeah so what, that's how you win a run.
>It's just a bigger poison cloud.
Hold on to your butts, everybody.
I remember reading so many interesting suggestions when he asked for them on reddit. What happened? It's not like he couldn't think of anything better. He had people DO that FOR him.
This whole expansion has been such a fucking shitfest.
First when it came out it fucking crashed for nearly everyone, achievements were absolutely fucked and post it notes are still fucked I'm pretty sure so I hope you memorized everything you did.
And then we find out he's withholding content to spite people who datamined the game acting like a complete child.
And then in the update to spite the dataminers he nerfs fun items and characters, for whatever fucking reason, and breaks shit again.
Jesus fucking Christ, how disappointing.
Makes you transparent sometimes?
what the fuck
IT'S NOT AN END GAME BOSS TYRONE
Dark Bum in the original is the prime example of why yes, some items do need to be nerfed. Dark Bum has been nerfed maybe six times, and it's STILL extremely good. It's more a demonstration of the fact that they don't do any playtesting than anything.
>character has high risk/high reward
Edmund "If you're having fun, I'll show you my gun" Mcmillen
Can confirm, you can donate over 109 coins to Ultra Greed. I had fucking jack all on me so I only got to 112. Unsure if there are any extra unlocks.
Alternatively, there should be a "Only update when I say" option as well.
Voted edmund because I didn't read the other option but yeah phil fish is legit worse
>I'm allowed to talk shit about everything I don't like, including all japanese games and shit
>someone called me out on my bullshit, better cancel overrated, the game: 2 electric boogaloo on fucking twitter
BLUE WOMB ISN'T EVEN A FLOOR
IT'S JUST HUSH
AND NOW THE GAME ENDS WHEN YOU BEAT HIM
who fucking knows with these Nicalis idiots
I'm still convinced the "can't bomb into stores/item rooms/etc" was a feature they thought was great before they realized it literally broke the game
Edmund "Out the hatch when you open my patch" Mcmillen
It's like everything I ever get hyped for in my life turns out to be shit. No, not just shit, but rather shat on.
Like, not even just games. Is this the end times? Why is this happening to us?
YOU DON'T GET IT EVERY FUCKING RUN
Yes there are good items and bad items
Holy shit, play 50 games on hard and tell me how game breaking dark bum is when you see him 5 out of those 50 times, and you don't get many red hearts in hard mode either.
Yeah, I remember when I was playing as the Lost in hard mode and dark bum made it an instant win, got up to mega satan in 5 minutes and beat him in 5 seconds. Dark bum was a real game breaker, yeah.
>tfw we're beta testing the DLC for the PS4/Vita release.
Us PC gamers, huh?
>only two games I got legitimately excited for in my creaky old jaded heart were Metal Gear Solid 5 and Binding of Isaac Afterbirth
>both were extremely fucked up and unfinished
I don't even have a reaction image. I'm just done caring about stuff. Everything I show an interest in falls apart.
What's the quote about edmund wanting to do something no developer had ever done before because of the lost datamining? His grand idea was to tine-gate content. Does he really think nobody has done this before?
"It's Edmund's game and he can do what he wants with it, I know the community's a little upset right now, but he's the developer so let's just give it a try and see how it goes."
The dude is just way too fucking polite to call anyone out on their bullshit.
>afterbirth has actually LOWERED the number of usable characters
Thanks, Edmund "literally never play anybody other than Isaac and Eden" McMuffin
That's some kind of dank joke, right?
That was already the case.
I have one for you
Anyone have Blue Baby tips? need to get some unlocks on the road.
did u rike it evrybody?
>Metal Gear Solid 5 turns out be one of the biggest disappointments of my fucking life
>Binding of Isaac is getting shit on constantly
>Might Number 9 is just what ever
>Silent Hill canceled
Just kill me now
I got a seed with Faded Polaroid if anyone wants to try and a new Devil Deal Item called Black Powder and you can do pic related; you walk in a circle and you drop powder on the floor as you walk, if you do it in a circle you get this.
I got a new familiar.
Bumbo: "Bumbo want coin!"
No coins here so I can't test what he does.
>character I played in vanilla flash game
>characters I played in WotL
Cain, Isaac, ???
>characters I played in Rebirth
Isaac, Eden, Judas
>characters I play now
Isaac, Eden, might play Cain again, have to test him more.
I don't know why, but I laughed my ass off.
Fuckin' anon and his memes right here.
You win some, you lose some.
basically a meat boy but you feed him
no more bombs, idk if he gets bigger
Undertale is alright. Its nothing special. Except for the god awful art direction and pixel art the game doesn't really have anything negative about it.
I remember way back when the lost was datamined and Edmund went on NL's stream to talk about it and NL asked how he felt and he responded "why don't you just datamine my heart to find out", and everybody laughed, because he was joking about it so it wasn't a big deal.
Little did we know the depths of the salt within.
YouTube faggotry Guppy items still not nerfed.
YouTubers just have to transform to Guppy in every video. Kids get hyped "WILL HE TRANSFORM INTO GUPPY THIS TIME!!!!??" Then they do and they click the upvote button.
There, I just spoiled every paid YouTuber who does BoI runs. Faggot turns into Guppy, clears rest of the game in 10 minutes.
>sorting by new
>won't get enough votes to even see the front page of the subreddit
that's practically cheating
I'm sure there are some retards here who think it was a good idea as well
like this guy >>121231546
>Balanced in Greed Mode
>Completely fucking awful in everything else
Beating Hush gives a new ending now
I don't hate pixel art at ALL, I love it actually, but Undertales' sprites are not that great.
Like look at this mspaint circle what the hell.
Anyway, on topic of Isaac:
Cain the new king of Greed Mode?
oh that's how it works
I was looking in a different forum
this pic is cool
And that's all she wrote.
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