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we've come so far (mostly graphically).
Personally I miss the old star chart. It was far easier to navigate.
how to fix Limbo:
>Enemies into the Rift deal 50% reduced damage (scales with power strenght)
>removed Haven augment
>Rift Chains, Banish augment
>Killing a banished enemy will pull enemies near him into the Rift
>Can hold stuff while on Rift
>Enemies on Rift will also take a DoT of Radiation damage
>Rift Surge changed to Rift Crush
>closes abruptely the rift removing anyone from it and putting all enemies that were on Rift in Stasis
Reminder that ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
Why is that not a thing? It would actually make using Limbo tolerable.
No point in also changing Rift Surge if Rift Chains exists. You could actually manage to stay buffed without having to spam Banish or risk getting overwhelmed with Cataclysm. Especially with the Rift Surge augment. But that still leaves the problem of needing two Augments to even make Limbo remotely useful. Being able to fit Augments into the Exilus slot when?
>all the comments fellating DE for nerfing a frame that wasn't even top tier
Even her boobs are reduced.
Saddest day in the history of WF.
>health and armor being positively changed
Positively as is "she's positive they are being changed" I guess.
Saryn skin is limited time only
That's some bullshit right there but I'm not entirely surprised. If they're smart, they'll make all the limited time skins available again during Christmas for the bigbux
Thats pinnacle of incompetence right there. I bet they wanted to increase it, but idiots who are in charge of implementing the changes lowered it instead - they have no idea what they are doing, And its not a meme or 'DE hate'.
here it is, it's not dangly enough for my liking
But goddamn that skin is beautiful
I sold my Zorens so I can't show them. If the skin looks good enough I might even potato them
addiction, no alternative, constant new toys
>oh no! they will sure buff her 10x after that disaster on stream
yeah sure, like they 'buffed' her HP
>she can nuke just fine still
>except you do pathetic damage until you apply 2 others skills (one being melee) to each mob
reminder that DE shills are idiots and never play the game, just like their masters
>with both Viral and Toxin procs active
you cant be serious
Fart/fatposter here. I'm sorry you had to read my shitposts all this time.
RIP Saryn. You were too good for this world.
I bet you're that guy that posts with the name something along the lines of [DE]SteveShekelsSinclair
you don't need to be a fucking shill to see the hivemind of shit this general is
yeah, she's not as good as she was, but she was never even viable >40, that still holds true
only fucking difference now is you have to press 1 and pop a spore, then fart to clear
literally a couple more seconds tops
your build is ass then
I tick 3-4 times for about 1-1.5k on draco
mfw am lookin region and cant believe all this DE shills sayin this is a buff and calling Vargras based when he bans ppl
It was ok. Farewell.
so you admit it's a nerf for an already subpar frame, but still gobble DE's shit? are you getting paid for that?
if you weren't a dumb shill you'd realize this gen is bitter only because DE shits the game all the time with nonsense nerfs like this
I just tried the new Saryn in a 5-min T4S, and as much as I love her new skin she's pretty awful. There are 3 major problems:
1) To maximize her nukes, you need to build for strength, duration, and range (and ofc efficiency), which means no corrupted mods, most noticeably FE
2) Energy. To get max damage from Miasma you need to use her 1, 3, then Miasma, which is 225 energy total. This can be reduced to 157 energy with Streamline. Compare it to previous Miasma which costs 25 energy, new combo requires more than SIX(!) times the energy to use. FE can't be used either (see #1)
3) You need to get into melee range to use Toxic Lash. This is a pain in the ass even with Molt
I'll still fuck around with her in low-level stuff because of the skin but damn she is dead as fuck. Biggest problem is the Energy use
>Cast Spores on it
>activate toxic slash
>burst spores with melee and toxic slash
>give every enemy in range a viral+toxic proc
>do 149 dmg per tick on a lvl 34 bombard
That wording is really bad.
Either that means it gives you a capped max length you can reach and it just refreshes it... or
and more likely
every reapplication sets the tick counter back to 0 so if you reapply too quickly, you lose damage by resetting the 1sec tick interval
"As a Tenno who didn't like Saryn very much back then, I'm really appreciating this rework! I love how Spores work, how the Molt plays along with the former, the Toxic Lash exploding them and dealing Toxic procs, and the new options with Miasma. So much room for tactics!!! Love it DE! Keep up the good work."
>tfw can't get a grip
Why the fuck noone hosts T4 intercept. I need my fucking paris prime grip
I don't know, that's minimum duration without Arcane Chlora (13%). Will go test when I'm done being sad.
>have to build your melee for 3 now as well (implying you'd even want to play saryn)
200% power strength in >>121302027 is doing sub 1k damage
you can get 400% damage and you still won't be coming close to old miasma and it'll cost you like 300 energy and by the time you're done it'll be faster to just shoot them
>give her more power
>take away health because "caster frame now"
>you still need to be in range and spamming melee to get full effect out of her abilites
DE just outright does NOT play their own game. Its like they found an old, dusty post-it note on some random corner of the wall with beta stats for Saryn, and "buffed" that, not even knowing what her current stats were at all.
ohhh my god
>cast spore on it
>burst it with Toxic Slash
>on a lvl 35 bombard
>all this while being shot at with rockets and being knocked down
>all this 240 dmg per tick with BOTH procs that didn't even kill him with HALF HIS HEALTH
It's a BUFF!
YEAR OF QUALITY!
and I bet you also maxed your TF just for Saryn
there is no god damn reason to build for #3 at all
you are only kidding yourself if you think that meager damage bonus is worth it
just use that toxin whip melee if you really want to use that ability for procing spores
really you should just use the augment to buff allies or maybe slot toxic flight
or just not care about the toxin proc because #4 is too expensive to sustain anyways
>and I bet you also maxed your TF just for Saryn
yes it will not go to waste on Javelin Excal at least
>not even a reactor to replace the one you wasted on Saryn
Goddamn, is DE run by a fucking dartboard? Is any decision made by someone literally chucking a dart at a wall of sticky-notes?
Well she's a DoT condi pressure frame now. Only shines with a lot of enemies around. You can still lag out the game a little if you molt/spore a huge group of enemies, if you rush to the end of an exterminate without killing.
"Wow... Saryn is ridiculous now. Maybe Toxic Lash could use a bit more prominent fx, but overall awesome"
Seriously who are these fuckwits that post on the forums?
Saryn rework Idea that will never happen
Double her armor to make her actually tanky
switch out the shitty new 25% status duration for 10% toxin to all weapons
1 affects all enemies in a cone but no longer propagates
2 is fine
3 increases melee range as well
4 keep the new synergy but buff it to actually get to old damage levels
If DE impelmented these patented changes you might actually see 1 saryn in a game once
it increases instead of decreases her EHP gives her quality of life on the 1 so its not a pain in the ass. buffs the 3 slightly and fixes the 4 since itll be easier to proc the 300% damage. There is literally not a single thing worse about this
>put up potatoe alert with grineer exterminate
>literally her best faction and mission type
>ofc you are lured to use her because of those reasons
>you combo molt toxic slash spore (when you get the fucking energy
>everything in a whooping 20m range dies without miasma because it is just lancers at lvl 20
>shitters go "WOW SHE IS SO GOOD NOW TOTALLY NOT A NERF YOU PEOPLE ARE CRYBABIES THNX DE"
>take her to Mr. Reaper's gun range
>can't kill lvl 35 bombards and napalms
KILL THE FORUMITES
KILL THEM ALL GOD DAMN IT
KILL THEM BY SPITROASTING THEM WITH THEIR OWN SPINE THROUGH THEIR ANUS
So you are telling me you have not actually tried to synergies her powers? To me it seems that the synergy makes her the highest DPS frame in the game, not sure what you are perceiving.
>To me it seems that the synergy makes her the highest DPS
yeah because you are a fucking shitter of grandiose proportions
fucking ember outdoes her now and all she has to do is press 2 now and then,not make every single fucking nuke a 150 energy cost puzzle
Reminder that /wfg/ has been tainted by shills and forumites, warbros is literally metastatic cancer affecting other games, and DE will ruin anything that gives you enjoyment in this game.
Well, I just took my 3 forma BoobQueen for a simple T3E test... she is an absolute bottom tier frame now. I'd even prefer Oberon for his CC or fucking Atlas (just for fun 1-1-1-1 combo).
Saryn can't CC, can't nuke, cant survive where it matters (higher level T4), can't farm. There is no faction she is particularly good vs. There is no role she fits.
Saryn is really useless now.
As much is Forst and Excalibur reworks were good, this one is absolute worst. R.I.P.
DoT is useless when you can nuke entire room with Tonk, also the damage is shit
>Double her armor to make her actually tanky
I should have stopped reading right there
all your other ideas are shit too
and you noobshitters should stop posting your brainfarts when you don't know how anything in the game works, you are just as clueless as fatfuck
Well, it could be worse, I suppose. 85% of the people posting in feedback thread took a huge dump on DE and everything they stand for.
Then again, maybe tomorrow those posts will disappear altogether. Guess I'll try to mod frost or ember for massive nukes now.
>tfw haven't played in a month or two
Hold the fucking phone. They did not just nerf Sayrn, did they? What the fuck could possibly warrant that?
meme at me good bros
3 names this cunt
DE hired blind retards instead of level designers so they killed most of the lights on some maps and called it 'enhanced atmosphere'. Greineer maps used to have really nice lighting.
u dun it
u r the best memer
now he is gettin' the big consign
The only post for calling out DE's bullshit.
im shit at this kind of thing so here have a shitty haiku
slaughter was had
then came the ancients
i was slain
got to jump all over a guy for a simple mistake huh there fixed
I am fucking mad and my normie guild likes Saryn's "rework" so much, I don't even fucking...
Goddamn. I guess it's a good thing LOTV is out in a few days. fuck this goddamn game.
>actually having fun casting spore on molt and just watch number appear
>Don't care about killing because shits in Draco do it for you
>all this bitching over miasma nerf
I'm having fun using my 3 because i Love Melee more than shooting, the damage reduction is pretty good Get over it you pieces of shit, you are just going to move onto the next frame that can nuke or clear waves of enemies with no effort because you are all lazy shits. you forgot what game you are playing
some of these forum posts are a goldmine
a ton of foudners came out of the woodwork to destroy fatfuck
people calling out on him not playing the game, not knowing anything about the game
this is amazing
rhino does it I think
she doesn't need it tho, I can get 70% kills on draco against mesa
I can't top saryn pre-nerf tho, she is stronger than mesa and mirage combined (for DEAC)
>meleeing stuff is actually fun
>average /wfg/ would walk around with Soma Prime or Tonkor and think they are good
Oh please, you guys complain about anything
>Frost bubbling in draco
>"oh my god i can't shoot the enemies and hes a shitlord for doing it"
>enemies are slowed down in bubble
>Just walk in and stop them
Seriously, you guys find anything to complain about.
What's next? I'm not even trying to defend the game but you guys just sound like entitled fucks half the time.
I wish it was as good as you made it sound.
Are you saying i'm not already
>Use Warcry with mod
>Using regular Glaive
>Feelin like this bitch here and enjoying it
it is because the wfg "shitter" has pushed the game to its limits
let me tell you this
if you aren't using EB from Excalibur or Valkyr and Hysteria your "FUUUUN" melee will 100% get you killed in levels that the wfg "shitter" breezes through
yes I am sure you have fun slashing lvl 35 stuff but that lvl 60 bombard is going to kick your god damn teeth in because of "FUUUN" melee and don't even dream about reaching 85+ lvl
>b-b-but those levels are too high and should not be used as a reference
yeah they are too high for a melee "pro" like you not for us
but do not take my word on it
get your ass in a t4s and stay for 45 minutes
you will have failed by 25-30 "pro"
So at which point in any of the frame's lives have they all been at peak "condition"?
No frame has been untouched in terms of "nerfing" so there has to be a point where they were "too good".
Which frame would be the strongest if all the frames are rollbacked to their former glory?
Mesa is shit now so it doesnt say much. Prism is radiation so its good vs one armor type but shit vs another (unless you are in premade with 4CP).
I should try maxed prism build.
>Oberon is literally better than Sayrn
>Oberon is literally better than Sayrn
>Oberon is literally better than Sayrn
>Oberon is literally better than Sayrn
>Oberon is literally better than Sayrn
>Oberon is literally better than Sayrn
I need your advice again, 10o
What decent mod can be put instead of fast hands?
I can only think of Piercing caliber and Shred. Any other options?
Also should I max out Heavy Caliber? Some people say accuracy fucks way too much if it is maxed
nothing is worse then oberon, stop kidding yourself
Is the Red Veil the most edgy syndicate?
wew the chat
Oh yes beacuse I TOTALLY want to be in T4S for more than 30 mins with stuff that's sooo worth going past 30 mins.
your point means nothing. you keep your elitist mindset, I'll keep my mindset in actually making this game fun/worth playing while you stay here and complain about nerfs and DE.
sunshine you can't even stay for more than 30 mins
you only use fun as an excuse for your general shittery and incompetence
so yes I WILL keep my elitist mindset and next time your ass wants to be carried on something actually important I am gonna be the one you call to do it
and I will whisper
>Want to build Jat Kittag
>No Crushing Ruin
>Want to build Silva/Aegis or Ack and Brunt
>No Eleventh Storm
>Already have D.Nikana
>No Tranquil Cleave
Why do I bother with these? Melee is purely cosmetic when in this very game it should be the opposite.
What is wrong with DE?
>pubs kill their own synthesis target
>Simaris then he gets mad at me.
Fuck you, I already did my daily scans and capped rep. Don't yell at me because pubs can't read/listen/realize that the thing they are plinking away at has 50x more health than everything else in the mission.
>asking anyone from /wfg/ for help
I'd rather rely on shitters than ask some elitist douchebag for help.
the best thing to come out of the rework is all of you anons who will finally muster up the negatively charged motivation to find another game to play, yes or no?
or are you going to continue being DE's personal fucktoy?
I farm it for at least an hour for 3 chances at ROTC, but I agree the drops are completely shit. I have a hard time doing T1s because of the opposite reason, I find myself running towards extract at 20 mins because it's so fucking boring.
lol people are still complaining about bitching about stuff even thought they hate the game and DE
Nothings going to change, /wfg/ will continue to find anything to bitch about that they don't find endgame worthy/can't clear the room or make things easy mode.
What do you mean, anon? This forumshitter is 100% accurate.
Saryn now IS the frame with the most Kek Crowds. Just look at the forums.
/wfg/ is full of shitposters and newfags, and maybe self loathing addicts who actually play
nobody who browses here plays, we just come here to enjoy the real entertainment which is DE fucking the playerbase right in the anus
is saryn getting punched in the butt really worth of this fuck huge armageddon going on right now
even the forumshitters are going apeshit over it
Fuck, I forgot that
c u c kis corrected.
It's hard to capture but minky knows his butts
>new saryn skin
>pornforges are cold
>saryn is kill
>forums are happy about it
Old but yeah. You really need to get rid of that elitist mind, it's bad for your health
"As quickly as possible" is defined by how fast the fastest build can take on enemies. If you buff every frame's TTK by 100%, nothing would change in their relation to one another, and that's what all those revamps are for. Increasing the overall TTK.
>let me prove you wrong by posting a video of one of the two melee capable frames you mentioned
This is how retarded what you just did is anon, learn to read before acting like hot shit.
You gonna post up those stats 10o? I want to see what a big boy you are.
>shitter who doesnt know how to Draco effectively
>thinks Saryn was the best frame for instantly nuking
another reminder that DE shills are idiots who dont know anything about the game
>these are the shitters DE listens too
how can you play for this long and still be so retarded/a shill?
Literally the screencap I came here to post, thanks senpai.
With the way DE phrased their notes, I could forgive people for initially thinking it's a buff, but after you realize how miasma works now, you have to be retarded to think it's worth a piss.
Literally worse than Broberon.
>tfw you saw the day ember surpassed saryn in damage and overall usefulness
>shitters gloating that another frame became useless
because we didn't have enough mastery fodder already, right
Unlike to words from the Community, Saryn has not been nerfed, we have to use every single ability in order to have a powerful Miasma.
Currently she's better than before so thank you DE, nicely done!
But overall, the rework is good, more interesting that anything because it opens a new spot on high lv content(lv 40+), and that is that she can stun the enemys, change the focus of the fire to the molt( that dies in a brief period of thime despite its long duration) and toxin proc the enemys for easyer dispaching. Maybe the new meta will be spore+molt spam and convined with the fact that she can also take a more melee oriented theme(despite de health being lower) we may see her in more in action.
11/10 will play her again day and night, ...on all missions. Lol
As a Tenno who didn't like Saryn very much back then, I'm really appreciating this rework! I love how Spores work, how the Molt plays along with the former, the Toxic Lash exploding them and dealing Toxic procs, and the new options with Miasma. So much room for tactics!!! Love it DE! Keep up the good work.
>DE hates efficient grind
>removes all AOE nuke abilities
>replaces radial javelin with super jump
>replaces fireblast and WOF with crunches and ab flexes
>replaces maim with hormone pills
>replaces link with hand-holding
>replaces avalanche with a Mr. Frosty dispenser
>tfw you saw this coming from a mile away and saw the Dev stream and knew it was confirmed
>tfw you don't want to be so negative but DE keeps doing this same shit
>tfw Bladestorm is next on the nerf block
>tfw forums are in flames over Saryn
I just wanted to have fun and hope for the better.
I want to chop the "fucking niggers" head off that fucking ruined saryn. That said who is this piece of shit? How do I build her now? why not delete your account and go outside? I might blow up DE head quarters, but seriously how do you build her now?
>crush replaced with aggro attractor
>reckoning causes enemies killed by teammates to drop health orbs and antlers instead of killing them for health orbs
>exalted blade no longer has energy waves
>rhino stomp replaced with that blast heavy gunners do
>vortex only pulls loot and only for vauban
>overload only destroys lights for synergy with mirage's eclipse
ember changes heat up porn forges
I had a 4 forma'd Equinox that was pretty godlike, but after the nerf I had to fuck around with some mods and lost a chunk of power strength to not have duration fuck with my energy drain.
I really wish they'd revert those changes.
Maim is still pretty much a low level "fuck everything" ability and can still be kinda useful to unleash the damage you dealt out but still underwhelming, especially in the context of how fucking useless all >her other skills are. I only use Equinox to faceroll Augustus - Mars to farm T4 keys.
Funny how these nerfs fuck over shit like potential forma sales, I would have been tempted to forma Equinox for this reason. I don't get why nukes are suddenly so taboo, it's not like they were useful for anything past mid-star chart.
Her Rest is good for CC, but pacify and mend need buffs. I mostly run as Day form because damage buff + dmg aoe/CC is way better then night's abilities.
Every nerf has been aimed to a damage frame. Notice very few CC abilities have been touched?
I am hesitant to forma a frame multiple times for this reason. Ember's buff was great, but I refuse to forma because I know she'll get nerfed the moment I do.
Forma distillers when?
>radial disarm affects enemies for 12 seconds and is affected by duration
>be in a decent enough toaster
>play on low, can't see shit on high settings anyway.
>Decide to just fuck it and set everything to ultra
>fps actually improved
>can't see anything now
>feels like im on acid
What the fuck.
it doesn't matter if they shoot, literally as soon as one enemy in a tile is aware, every enemy in that tile becomes aware - this can then spread between tiles based on proximity, before they even hit the alarms, no gunfire necessary
>that glorious Orchid upskirt when you bullet jump
peacemaker wasn't a rework but an outright nerf after they left mesa untouched for nearly a year from release. any other, i.e. non-retarded, community would have been in an uproar but the hoards of 12 year olds that play warframe either don't care, or already forgot.
>mfw joining pubs with mr10 founders with every fucking cosmetic possible
It's a shame this rework is so shit, this is the first skin I've actually wanted to buy (proto-Excal was when he was still shit) but I'll never actually use Saryn now to justify the cost.
Why do you need other abilities if you are not farming? farming and grind in this game is so boring and unrewarding you need to forget about it to have fun, thats the point.
You can rush caps faster than before (1 target only)
>energy vampire works like well of life in that you need to shoot the enemy to get health
>link connects trinity to her teammates, distributing damage between the group
>blessing causes you to take more damage the more you heal as it was originally intended to
>it's not just trinity
>molecular prime no longer affects enemy speed
>sonar only tell you where enemies are because it was supposed to be a stealth skill for a stealth frame
>exalted blade only sends out energy waves on the final attack of combos
>radial blind only opens enemies to finishers for any melee but exalted blade
>shield polarize only affects enemies with magnetic procs
>don't worry 10o, crush procs magnetic :^)
radial disarm >>121320952
>people covered head to toe in primes and cosmetics
>still fucking just walk though levels and kill useless baddies
I opt out of most pubs because I don't want to sit around at extraction points or bosses waiting for these retards to catch up to me.
>mfw Ash nerf is next in the line
>mfw Trinity will get fucked right in the ass after that
year of quality indeed, thanks based Scott!
>wow these fucking faggots cannot HANDLE my black and red ash fucking shitlords i am the ultimate ninja
Good, play solo. You're the type of retard that leaves my polymer bundle farm at 5 mins when I accidentally leave the group on public.
I'm not talking about survival missions, I'm talking about shit like sabotage and capture and shit. There's no reason to fucking farm them and people are just destroying my time by going through them slowly.
>tfw you will never know what pre-nerfed Saryn was like
Guess I was too late to the party
Fatfuck and other shitters do. He will buff Skin to be even more of an easy mode, since shitters on the forums have been crying that Rhino is not tanky enough for T4.
Rhino stomp was already kinda nerfed to require duration mods if you want CC.