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>In addition, Number Xyz will not be archetype/attribute/type-locked. Therefore, even if you're given, say, Number 36, you do not need to use "Chronomaly" monsters to summon him.
Thank God I read the rules
>Spellbook of Fate released from banlist
>Spellbook prices spiking
>Meanwhile the copies of Spellbook of Judgment I stocked up on aren't budging.
Its not that good.
Spellbook of Judgment is a -1
You have to wait until the end phase to plus so you can't even use the cards
It could easily come back at 3
Remember everyone, this guy is actually attending a university right now.
wait for him to say it was just bait all along
>It could easily come back at 3
Is this fucking bait? Even I'm not that retarded.
reminder to sign up to the less-memey-than-tomo's tourney
Is spellbook of prophecy still a good deck? if so, its fun?
don't worry, I'll win the tourney whether you join or not.
Shit forgot to attach a picture of a waifu
I already informed the janitor that THIS thread was made by the Iris Heart shitposter called "Accel" and he will delete it in any second.
Move to the new non meme thread before it's too late:
I also notified the janitor that a autist like you was making multiple threads and has already consulted the council of janitor clean up to ban your ass. Stop posting before its too late.
He'll just use a proxy
Re-hosting TCG New Banlist Ft. DOCS.
Tomo got DoraDoraDora, Greedy Sarameya, Frozen Lady of Justice, muh Heraldic King and Zombiestein, how the fuck do you make a deck that summons two of those? All I can think is Greedy Sarameya and then overlaying Sarameya for Lady Justice
>30, 20, 55, 36, 80
Fug, Giga Brilliant + Acid Golem or Gogogo Goliath + Forth Hyuk is going to be a bitch to get up. Rank 4 deck, I guess, since Forth Hyuk is so good.
>53, 73, 33, 92, 61
All those are rank 5 except 92 and that's Hearth-Earth Dragon summonable by 53. Cyber Dragons?
>Cock Master for Megamaw
This shit should be banned, to be honest. All others are rank 4 good stuff, Illumiknight and Sky Pegasus are shit, but Burning Visor and Key Beetle are too good in combination with Cock Master
>Corn, Tri-Headed Dragon, Crab, Battlin Boxer, Shark Drake
Mostlyghostly with a bunch of not so good rank 4's.
>Rank 7's featuring Big Guy
nooooo, pls no. Also rank 8's, meh, I don't think Bonbutts would use them.
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You're reporting the correct thread that was made at 750 and announcing your report, the one getting banned is you anon.
New thread made correctly at 750
do you want to duel? I already have my deck built.
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>and then he said, Majespecters will be Tier 1!
>Nah, others will still reply to them
>and then there will be even more tripfags.
Then keep filtering.
>They will play in the tourney as well.
Who cares? The tourneys are shit with or without them.
Let's compare something for a second friend. You've spammed your thread in this thread 13 times. 13. There are only 28 posts in your entire thread. At this rate you'll have spammed this thread more than there are posts in your own actual thread. Think about that.
Guys can Blackwings actually be good rogue right now?
>Icarus Attack to fuck Majishit scales and backrow
>Raikiri to further fuck with Majishit scales
>Black Sonic to deal with both Majishits and Kozmemes
I think they have real potential as a rogue deck
This is honestly the worst Yugioh communities around. Yeah I know that we walk the line a lot, but I think after today I can say officially that /dng/ is legit the worst fucking Yugioh community in existence right now
I'm considering throwing more money at DN so I can have my picture of a man and a fish lying on top of each other back, not sure yet.
Cant you read my trip???
Im trying to get the thread back on track
>I filter most of the thread because I take a children's card game seriously
Other thread is still alive.
The autism is strong in /vg/.
I still want to play my Battlin' Boxers at Locals/for fun because I'm broke as fuck, but RoTA to one is an annoyance I haven't had to deal with since the deck came out, do you guys have any suggestions on how to up consistency?
The towers hit was bullshit. Towers was a perfectly fair card that only needed to get hit because Konami is so incompetent that Europe alone can't deal with it since they don't have manga promo cards like crab.
The Lavalval Chain Ban was for sure because everyone in top player circlejerk crew/ARG list thought the card was degenerate. No one really advocated the hit beside them.
Konami just pulled a set rotation. They killed decks as opposed to balancing them. You can like that if you want but it's pretty jewy anyway you look at it.
....are you retarded?
You poor thing.
Anyway, the decks were going to be powercreeped slightly anyway, I was ready for a pretty diverse meta feauting Nekroz, Kozmos, Performagedolls, and Majespecters at the top with a bunch of viable decks below it, it would be fun. But no, Konami hit everything way too much, even if we ignore the fact they were getting creeped in DOCS and BOSH anyway. I mean seriously, Construct to 0? Scout to 1 AND Towers to 0? Brio and Uncore to 0 with Shurit to 0? FUCKING CANNHAWK TO 1? Konami is stupid.
Missed a few, but A for effort janny..
Take this hotpocket as payment.
>it's pretty jewy anyway you look at it.
OM EM GEE
No wait, are you
Are you really
Are you really telling me that
That.... a corporate business is trying to make money with their new products?
Like if they aren't..... a charity?????
>ARG format is a meme
>says the people who play TCG/OCG format
Keep sucking Konamy dick dude. Bet you already bought your max rarity Majefaggot deck at sneak peak prices.
You've pretty much proved why ARG format is better. Call me a shill, but it's pretty night and day.
>Saving my deck list
So I have a stalker now? And that isn't true, I lost a copy of ESF, and I lost Construct. Which means I had to drop Raiden and Charge. I took a hit, I just don't care because I'm not a little bitchboy like you.
ITT: Idiots not understanding typoes.
And mate, Infernoids were viable last format. Qliphorts were viable last format. Kozmos were viable last format. Were any of these Tier 1? No, except Qliphorts for part of it. This is the simplest way I can explain it, if you still go "??????" because you can't understand, then just go sob in the corner or something.
I've been trying out my gimmick deck for the past while and I only manage to win around 40 percent of the time. How do I improve it?
I've been going over the SQMP engine looking for ways for the pilots to make their power play. So far, this is the only way to summon Magnus first turn given the cards we already have and without knowing green's effect.
>summon red (4 cards in hand, 1 on field, 0 in grave)
>summon blue (3 cards in hand, 2 on field, 0 in grave)
>search either green or magnacarrier (4 cards in hand, 2 on field, 0 in grave)
>play magnacarrier (3 in hand, 3 on field, 0 grave)
>discard green to summon a beast (2 in hand, 3 on field, 1 in grave)
>discard red to summon the other beast, and summon green back to the field (1 in hand, 4 on field, 1 in grave)
>discard the last card to summon the third beast (0 in hand, 4 on field, 2 in grave)
>send magnacarrier to the grave to summon Magnus (0 in hand, 1 on field, 3 in grave)
That's a -5, with only a +1 to the field, and in order to do it you have to draw:
>2 red layers
>Blue layer (or E tele)
>And either magnacarrier or green layer (technically you could run terraforming and draw that too, and if green is a warrior like red you could draw your only RotA but that's still unknown about green).
So yes, you CAN 6Mat Magnus on your first turn, it just takes an improbable draw and your entire hand to do it. I don't see how green could possibly make the engine both plus harder and simultaneously make the engine more consistent in order for this to not be both an improbable and unaffordable play, especially since red summons monsters to the field without being able to activate their effects. That crippled the layers so hard goddammit fuck you Konami.
I earnestly think you'd be better off trying to summon Magnus in a non-SQMP deck by RUMAFing Superdimensional Robot Galaxy Destroyer.
Remove both Duality. Take both "The Huge Revolution is Over", it's practically useless this format. Take out one Dark Hole for a Raigeki, can't provide further criticism because I don't recognize half of the damn cards. Also, finish the extra and put SOMETHING in for a fucking side, jesus.
Depends on the theory m8. There's field, hand, and field+hand advantage and that doesn't even touch on stuff like empty advantage.
Either way, having zero cards in hand and one card on the field isn't great.
Mrs. Konami just hired you as the bottom feeder designer at YGO NA. You've been given a single task to prove your worth: make Cloudians viable by creating 4 cards for the archetype. If 5 are needed she will accept it begrudgingly, but the target is 4 and no more than 5.
What kind of cards do you make?
>you CAN summon 6MAT Magnus turn one, despite it being improbable
>all without hypotheticals involving the effects of the unreleased cards, meaning this big play can only get better however marginally when we get the last three cards
Considering I thought summoning Magnus on the first turn would be impossible this is fantastic news.
Cloudian Win the Game
Reveal this card in your hand to your opponent, you win this game
Cloudian Searcher 1
Add 1 Cloudian card from your deck to your hand
Cloudian Searcher 2
Add 1 Cloudian card from your deck to your hand
Cloudian Searcher 3
Add 1 Cloudian card from your deck to your hand
easy as fuck
I dont think that Cloudian Cloudsplosion would be that big of a stretch
not necessarily for cloudsplosion, maybe a bit of balancing could make the card seem more reasonable. Maybe something like this may be appropriate:
Destroy 1 cloudian monster on the field and for every two fog counters add one level 5 or lower cloudian monster from your deck or graveyard to your hand.
Then make something like this to make it more useful
Cloudian swell/Supersaturate! (not sure about which name works better)
Target one cloudian monster on the field, add two fog counters for every level on the selected target. Destroy the target at the end phase
Where were you when Monarchs FLOPPED SO HARD on the OCG that even Chronomally Artifact tops more than them?
Protip: Sell anything NOT PePe now before it loses more value.
Level 7, 2500/0
If you normal summon a cloudian monster: distribute Fog Counters equal to its level between monsters on the field. Once per turn, you can remove 3 fog counters from anywhere on the field: Add 1 Cloudian card from your deck to your hand
M effect: This card cannot be destroyed by battle. If this card is in face-up Defense Position, destroy it. When you Summon this card, distribute Fog Counters equals to its level between monsters on the field. You can remove 3 Fog Counters from anywhere on the field; special summon 1 Cloudian monster from your graveyard, Deck or hand.
Level 4, 1600/0
If you special summon a Cloudian monster(s); you can distribute Fog Counters equal to its level(s) between monsters on the field. You can only use this effect of Cloudian - Nimbus once per turn.
Meffect: This card cannot be destroyed by battle. If this card is in face-up Defense Position, destroy it. When you Normal Summon this card, distribute Fog Counters equal to its level between monsters on the field. You can remove 3 Fog Counter from anywhere on the field: Add 1 "Cloudian" card from your deck or graveyard to your hand. Yadda yadda, this effect OPT.
Cloudian Gathering Cloud
Add 1 Cloudian card from your deck to your hand.
Cloudian Atomic Cloud
2 level 4 Cloudian monsters
All Cloudian monsters you control cannot be destroyed by card effects, except this card. All Cloudian monsters can attack your opponent directly, except this card. Once per turn: You can detach 1 XYZ material from this card; target 1 Cloudian monster on your field/graveyard; place Fog Counters anywhere on the field equal to its level.
You can remove 3 Fog Counters from anywhere on the field; banish 1 card on the field. You can only use each Cloudian Atomic Cloud effect once per turn.
Cards you wish you could actually use.
The OCG Imports that Konami gives have a pattern. They pick which ones they want and order them in a specific way which betrays from which set they came into. They wanted to import a D/D core of Caesar, the Savants, the S/T, Leo and Abyss Ragnarok. They did so, but they were ordered in such a way that they follow the chronological Japanese release order.
Just to reiterate.
Konami picks what they want to import
They arrange those imports into 'blocks' of chronological release order.
The 'blocks' contain cards which are ordered relative to the set they came from. So if the first 'block' of cards were JP01, JP05 and JP09 in some random pack, they'd end up as EN90, EN91 and EN92.
Look at DUEA.
They wanted to import the Gaia stuff, some Jump Fiesta stuff, and some promos.
The Gaia stuff came out first in Japan, so it was DUEA EN90-93. Then we had the Promo that came out after that, which was Burner Visor. The Promo after Burner Visor was Felis, which is DUEA EN 95. Then there was the Jump Fiesta stuff, which came out AFTER Felis, so they were AFTER Felis in the set list, being EN 96-99.
From this we can extrapolate that the first two imports are either Vassals, Pre-CROS, or Koreans exclusives. The one that makes the most sense is Pendulum Wizard since it would be a selling point AND already lost a Suscription Poll.
The middle two are cards that are either promos that came out after JP CROS but before JP DOCS or CORE exclusives
List of Imports for BOSH
Either Fire King Island or Chimeratech
BLS Sacred Soldier
If any D/D good (Non-Proud) D/D cards were to come out, they'd be in the first two slots.
Alongside Pendulum Wizard
Alright, so I'm gonna try to explain tech choices if you guys don't mind.
Most of the lineup should be obvious like the Performage engine, Dracoslayers, Wavering Eyes, and GOSRs.
Samurai Cavalry is a good low scale even if it doesn't immediately generate advantage, it helps against Kozmos since it's non-targetting even if it's destruction and searchable by Wavering Eyes. Archfiends are there for doing nasty things to back row and baiting Wavering Eyes from other pendulum decks, while also providing a high scale when needed. Time-Space is great against everything meta barring Infernoids. Magical Abductor at 2 since she's another low scale, makes people think twice about activating spells, and is a spellcaster for Archfiend Eater and Jigabyte. Speaking of, the goal of these 2 is to turbo into Feral Imps and hit the other scale as quickly as possible, also Archfiend Eater does skilly things with Plushfire and Trick Clown. Storm is there to proc Plushfire, reset scales, and nuke Majespecter's backrow.
The side and extra are where I think I need a little more help.
>you can first turn summon Megazord
is having only one card on the field really so bad considering what card it is?
No lie I debated it having done something similar when I wasn't sure if we were getting Wisdom-Eye yet, but in the end I didn't like it. I primarily like her for her scale level and the fact she's a spellcaster, otherwise I'd probably go with Reptier due to the fact that Kozmos are going to be one of the better decks and having a recurring Catastor is really nice. Especially having come from Dolls where Construct was such a dick to everything.
d8 r8 my pet deck that I will be running until January
Kozmos are going to start going to shiy after January and I'm not going to pay 80 bucks for farm girls
Reminds me that I have this.
No but for real being able to summon Big O on the first turn with his 6 materials underneath, that's enough to make the deck at least a powerful rogue deck worth siding an out for. He's probably the game's scariest boss monster currently, and is entire other level above Towers which was already strong as hell and gave plenty of decks trouble.
Proving that the deck can first turn Gundam is enough to make it noteworthy, but being able to consistently turbo out Optimus Prime with a smaller minus is what it'll take to make it meta, and I don't think that will happen.
She's a pretty good scale and I think that you should reconsider the way that you're running her. But if you don't that's cool and yeah Reptier's pretty good but your big guy (Ignister) can handle Kozmemes.
The worst part about eMeM is that despite how strong they are, the cards and monsters are ugly as fuck and I doubt anyone using the deck likes them very much if at all. Dracos are at least pretty cool looking, nobody wants to see that FUCKING FAGGOT KEYBOARD MONKEY
>tfw the guy who designed Ariadne probably just wanted to make Counter-Faeries playable but accidently made it too strong
>tfw he'll never actually see Counter-Fairy decks playing it and it'll just be abused in PePe/EmEm until they ban it
>Is Veiler going to be useless the format before BOSH drops?
Are you guys fucking retarded?
EVERY. SINGLE. LIST. on the OCG features 3 Veiler on the MAIN. Along with Droll & Lock Bird, Maxx C and other Hand Traps.
Is /dng/ THIS STUPID? YES
>tfw he probably got a raise since so many people liked the card
Thank you for saying literally, otherwise I might have thought you meant figuratively no avid /dng/ poster is good enough to even top 32 a regional or better.
/dng/ is str8 up locals level shitter elitists tier
Say that to my face and not online and see what happens.
Maybe I'm just a moron and not thinking this through enough, but isn't the massive deficit turboing Magnus puts you at tolerable if the opponent has NO outs to the fucking thing? I mean if the deck's not meta you're not going to see outs in the side deck, and if the boss monster is so incredibly strong but allegedly hard to summon most decks will deal with it ny proactively stopping it from appearing not actually having a way to deal with it on the field.
shinji is proof that the tops did literally, figuratively, metaphorically, metaphysically, and spiritually nothing wrong.
/a/ here, can you make sure that your tomo stops visiting our threads and trying to shill his shitty tourney?
>Activate when your opponent draws a card outside of their draw phase
dude, the only cards that draw on EMeM are Guiturtle and Lizardraw. Everything else is add shit to hand. Learn your terms.
>Euro hour in full swing
>shitposting intenfies by magnitudes
The point is that it's cancer playing against cancer. And if a person is playing Appropriate, you really expect them to just sit there and rely on the opponent activating their own cards to draw, instead of forcing the opponent to draw to trigger it in the first place?
Explains why these things went over your head
>tfw Geminis will never have unique Pendulum support made only for them.
>tfw those Pendulum scales will never be 2 and 9.
>tfw those Pendulums will never have effects that give Geminis their effects immediately after being Pendulum Summoned.
so you're playing a shit deck agains the tier 1 deck that everyone plays and with the advantage they get with the draws allow them to OTK you even harder? Because I'm not really following your logic
Are we using this in the side now?
>still doesn't prevent normal summoning
>still doesn't prevent backrow use
>dies to archfiend eccentrick
>just works against Majespecters
Mistake and Anti-Spell Fragrance are your best bets, and they actually works against another decks
pirate a version of fraps
dl webm for retards and follow instructions
Don't update the old version yet because the newest version is crashing constantly when you try to crop/trip etc
but keep an eye on https://gitgud.io/nixx/WebMConverter That link is to the newest version of the program(that crashes 2.20) So only dl when a newer version is released .
GIVE US THE OTHER DESTRUCTION SWORDS KONAMI
THERE ARE AT LEAST 4 MISSING
I don't know what I'm doing
It will never get support again, at least you have the magnet warrior support to look forward to next set.
>Nekroz, Shaddolls, Ritual Beasts aren't topping
>Tellars wins Worlds
dude, that's a really bad suggestion.
Genex Undine value comes from being able to dump Dragoons from deck. Undine + Instant Fusion is an OTK, same as Diva + Instant or Instant + One for One. Don't gimp your OTK potential.
Though, he should run Genex Undine x3 and Controller at 1.
you really need Bahamut Shark and Number 101. I don't know why you are running all those synchros, just run Gungnir for easy triggers, Tatsunoko and Leo. Another Instant Fusion is also good. Where are your Lindes, your Gundes and your Abysspheres?
So, I'm doing a Necroz deck and I can't finish it because the banlist fucked my plans.
Shurit, strategist of the Nekroz (Banned)
Nekroz of Brionac (Limited to 1 card per deck)
Nekroz of Unicore (Limited to 1 card per deck)
How do I substitute these?
With your claws sharpened by adversity,
spread your wings of rebellion!
Raidraptor -- Rise Falcon!
>22 cards main deck
>30 cards main deck
>TURN FUCKING 5
>Marzipan played a paladin
>tells other people to kill themselves
>nekroz of trishula was the only problematic card in that deck
are you for real?
>PePe effectively rapes D R A G O N S and spits on them without Cock Master and subpar build
This train knows no brakes, prepare for a truly T0 format.
Star Wars can't compete
Memespecter can't compete
BA in the OCG even with everything on 3 can compete
Monarchs can't do shit either
Prepare for a $2000 deck on the TCG.
Here's my build post banlist. It's faster than clown and has more options as well. Pretty much you can just make herald and sit on it and bring it back with noden and go plus off of xyz detaching while having other syncro options as well.
Not that I've been playing it much recently, but it could work a bit, right?
If I were to play meta I'd just use Monarchs or Magicians of they're decent enough.
Deskbot 005 is destroyed by Mystical Space Typhoon, and placed face-up in the Extra Deck. In this scenario, if the effect of Deskbot 005 that Special Summons a “Deskbot” monster from the Graveyard is activated, can Solemn Warning be chained to the activation?
A: Even in this scenario, if the effect of Deskbot 005 is activated in the Extra Deck, Solemn Warning can be chained to the activation. In this case, the activation of the effect is negated, Deskbot 005 is destroyed, and it is sent from the Extra Deck to the Graveyard.
What s dumb ruling
>Prepare for a $2000 deck on the TCG.
>tfw Tewart will be a jew as usual and probably make Notice a short printed secret rare while it's a fucking Common in the OCG
Wish Konami made more fun cards like this one, shame for the hard OPT
>draw a woman
>Solemn on a pendulum monster using a summoning effect on the field shouldn't send it to grave.
I don't see why destroying a card in the extra deck shouldn't send it to grave
Eh close enough, obviously it will get the rarity spike here. I know only dirty weebs say this, but sometimes I really do wish I lived in Japan, at least when it comes to yugioh
I enjoy anime and manga, however I realize that Japan is far from a perfect society and that it has errors of its own. I might be fun to travel there but I would much rather just stay living where I am right now and to enjoy their media from afar.
Anyone know the card between mst and Celestial Transformation?
To be fair, Jeanne d'Arc crossdressed in order to travel through France without raising suspicions. But it is still wierd that they made her a king. I mean, it's not like they made Kepler och Kopernikus kings so why Jeanne?
opera is a bad card, as is melodious illusion.
crystal rose is also eh, , angel 06 is bad, and why not main at least 1 aria/elegy?
and why the FUCK aren't soprano and 1st movement solo maxed? ESPECIALLY since this deck is built to spam the fusions.
also, could use transmodify, it gets out shopina if you pitch the fusions, it gets out level 4s with sonata, gets out elegy with a level 4, etc etc.
Angel 06? Also, fixed up the deck a bit. How's this?
I'd do 3 transformation, 2 lead, and swap at least one aria for a canon or sonata. she and her recurring is stupidly good in the deck. with canon that's a r4 play, and with canon or sonata it's an instant schuberta.
I'm not a huge fan of serenade, but you're building to have actual summons of mozarta and shopina, so eh, might as well run at 1.
>mfw looking at Nekroz prices
Oh how the mighty have fallen
into my price range
Anyways I need a deck under $150 to play until Monarchs and Dinomist get release in TCGLand.
I control a DDD Caesar Ragnarok and a face up Dark Contract. My opponent controls a face up Kozmo Dark Destroyer and Kozmo Farmgirl.
If I attack with DDD Caesar Ragnarok and activate his effect, then my opponent chains Farmgirls tag into Sliprider, can I select either target to get equipped to Caesar? If I select Sliprider, can Sliprider use its pop effect to pop itself?
you activate Ceasar cl1 he chains
farmgirl summons slip from hand, ceasar has to select a monster other than the one he battled so you can choose either
then after chain resolved slip eff activates to pop and can target himself