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>chaos can be recast while enemies are still afflicted
So duration not shit for Nyx anymore? Also why the fuck does Vectis P have 2 fucking rounds per >clip? I remember that DE makes a lot of poor decisions but come on, that was why I loved the gun so much to begin with.
okay so viral proc means the enemy has a half HP. toxic proc is fucking worthless on 3/4th of all enemies if not more. is it even worth it to have +25% duration on viral? isnt it the case of recasting it? wouldnt a torid do that better?
why did molt received a damage buff? from miasma? wasnt miasma nerfed? is it still toxic instead of gas? is gas even worth on infested? viral is kind of nice, like a 2x damage score, but it still sounds like something too complicated for just a trick.
how bad is miasma's top damage now? its corrosive, it procs corrosive at least? do i need to dance with 2~3 skills before doing top damage?
why did i bought the skin. why.
She'll live on in our hearts and our noses.
they only tick once, and they dont stack. the only purpose of the +25% status duration is to add a bit more of the toxin damage. worthless
probably to make it look like a rework instead of a __nerf__
not worth it
so you will be hitting for 800 instead of 400, after using ALL 4 ABILITIES FUCK NO
>miasma and corrosive
its practically worthless and the procs are redundant in lategame/endgame because you should have 4x CP already.
tl;dr: saryn is kill
>This is a straw poll on the forums on whether saryn was buffed or nerfed
>mfw buff is in the lead
Correct, duration is now viable on Nyx. It should go Range>Efficiency>Duration>Strength
Most likely not. They are proud of the "synergy" that she has, so they arent going to change anything
1 is fun and good if you spam it in crowds with a decent melee equipped
2 is a shitty volt shield, worthless otherwise
3 is clumsy and takes too long
4 isnt worth the energy to have a few bullet sponges
tldr: fun for deac, might have a niche in punching infested. no place in endgame for it
The fact that DE even released this pile of shit when everyone and their mother saw how worthless it was on the liestream, shows that DE rarely gives even half a fuck about people bitching. This time, though, DE can't afford to not do something, because only the most massive of shills are calling this anything but an overall nerf. Especially the fucks saying the got buffed because of +20 armor, when she lost 25 base health, which equates to ~10% less effective health.
My favorite part is all the people praising the energy reserve buff when it was literally not changed at all. Saryn always had 150 energy and it shows how many people don't even play the game, just suck DE's dick.
You realize, that with DE's nazi forumites, saying anything negative would result in a ban/warning point. People are actually fucking afraid to say negative things so they just reflex hit anything that would seem positive. That's the only reason "buff" even has a chance in that poll.
>You will never get to relive old WF again
Zephyr's still good with Turbulence and Tornado but don't try to bring that shit beyond 60 minutes, enemy accuracy would actually scale up to the point where they can hit you through Turbulence. Mesa is okay, Peacemaker changes take some getting used to. Not as good as she used to be, but still workable.
Depleted Reload is a shitty bandaid for not giving Vectis P one round to begin with.
You are an idiot. She had 150 energy at max rank, which was 100 BASE energy. She now has 150 BASE energy, which means 225 energy at max rank. It still doesn't mean shit when her ult now costs 175 energy to cast. (Spore+Toxic Lash+miasma)
What the hell were they thinking with changing the names though. I see no point in it other than a sorry excuse to say "we changed her" when the abilities work practically the same as before with slight buffs. Not counting the neutering they gave Miasma.
It's ironic how you say they don't play the game and not know that she indeed get more energy. DE are just idiots and said she has 150 max before they corrected the patch notes to her having 150 base.
CHECK MY FULL ON AUTISM BUILD
Maximum survivability and maximum autism. On lvl 50 enemies takes 2 molts and 2 miasmas to kill them. ALSO Fleeting Expertise should be UNRANKED or rank 2 at best. Because we need energy and duration
1 and 2 did got more useful, but they are as useful as a skill witha crime syndicate mod. venom is "okay" but not something that would take her to endgame, molt never needed a damage buff. molt's main use was to aggro enemies, it made solo defenses on starmap easy and would still ease mod control, it didnt fucking mattered that it received a explosion thats larger taht 10m to damage shooting enemies, and it sure didnt made sense.
contagion is useless due to melee. having a duration buff is not bad, but it will never be useful. how it fucking synergizes with anything?
miasma being kill, no flinch from enemies and huge nerfs to damage means its harder to cast it, it takes longer to do so and you need more energy to do that, it doesnt matter she got more base energy because enegy efficiency is the issue.
noone wants a 4 that costs 175 energy to be cast, nor that takes 3 seconds for all the animations to be over
ALSO. By testing I found out that when you pressing 2 you must press 1 as fast as you can. Venom (or how the fuck it's called now) now has auto aim for molt and will attach to it automaticaly. So just spam 2 then 1 and press 4 in few seconds
Yea shes like my closet china doll now. Every time I log on I go to arsenal and look at her for 10 seconds and cry. Then I go play mag on draco and beat every dumbass still playing saryn.
> mag better than saryn
top kek right?
I think I know what DE was trying for with Saryn except they're idiots and don't know how Toxin procs work. If they just change it so that Toxin proc damage scales from damage dealt she'd be stacking some pretty beastly DoTs.
Only if you played healer/turret Chroma which was the shitter way. Why you would even want that when he has one of the highest damage multiplier is beyond me. Just use an Ignis if you want your turret back, it has longer range and better damage too.
effigy is harder to use but can still get the job done right
vex armor and cold aura is where its at
saryn was the queen of DEAC. whoever mained her also liked she coudl make alert, invasions and missioning a breeze. chroma just does that better, even now.
Ok, so hear me out, what if, guaranteed Corrosive proc on every tick of Miasma? This doesn't do shit against Corpus or Infested, but would make her last reasonably better against Grineer and Corrupted. That is, for solo/pubbing, as anyone doing anything serious in Void is running 4x CP. and doesn't bring Saryn anyways, even before the rework.
So I heard that The Second Dream will answer lore questions like "what/who are the Tenno". Am I stupid or don't we already know that? I thought the Tenno were
Orokin humans shipped off to the void, then clad in armour to focus their powers if they survived
Most people are afraid to even post on the forums if they have anything even remotely negative to say. Because any negativity is deleted, people who only glance at the forums only see the shills praising DE for any fuckup, so they are tricked into thinking that DE is actually competent and they also start praising DE for anything they do. They also think that any negativity that does make it through are just from "trolls" and are immediately ignored.
Trading this bad boy for Energy Siphon. Anyone want it lemme know and i'll drop my user name.
>can no longer spam 4
>you now need to spam 1, 2, 3, and 4 at all times to not even come close to pre-nerf dps.
>this is somehow better
Now it just takes 3+ seconds and +75 energy to do less total damage than before. Spore already regularly procced Viral, its just now guaranteed on spore pop. At least it did before the continuous status nerf. I haven't used Venom(Spore) since before then.
If fire dot GUARANTEED flailing about for the duration of the dot, it would be decent but right now even a panicked bombard will somehow slip 5 rockets up your ass while on the floor and flailing around on fire.
>In our desperation we turned to the Void. The blinding night, the hellspace where our science and reason failed.
>We took the twisted few that had returned from that place. We built a frame around them, a conduit of their affliction. Gave them the weapons of the old ways. Gun and blade. A new warrior, a new code was born. These rejects, these Tenno, became our saviors. Warrior-Gods cast in steel and fury striking our enemies in a way they could never comprehend.
>Excalibur was the first.
Wait, it isn't? Then why the fuck are the Tenno even called Tenno? Why is the Technocyte virus still a thing? This is dumb.
>darkSector is no longer canon to Warframe.
Jewldon confirme dark sector to be canon one year and to not be canon the year after.
pretty sure that they have some kind of problem with the rights but the hayden tenno skin and nemesis says otherwise.
No, the actual lore was (I'm not even sure you can find it anymore) the Orokin were desperate and losing the war against the Sentients. They then discover the Void then either through testing or by accident, they discover that anyone who survives exposure to the Void comes back with superpowers. They then craft the Warframes out of the Technocite Virus, which is a different strain than the weaponized Infestation strain, to help contain and control their newfound powers. I don't remember if this was before or after they sent ships full of children to intentionally expose them to the Void to weaponize them.
one popular theory is that 10o is a "spirit" using the different warframes, as Vor comment at some point.
Hence 10o is the player.
I prefer to think of them as just a brain and spinal cord, like in MGR. The Orokin were morally fucked up enough to not have a problem vivisecting someone down to that for the sake of efficiency.
Are the Orokin the most evil people in the story so far? We don't really know much about the Sentients I guess but honestly wanting to wipe out the Orokin is hardly a measure of being bad
actually you could argue that the infestation sees all flesh as "its" flesh since it consumes everything
because it has consumed a bit of almost everything all flesh is "its" flesh in a sense
and we already know it has consumed tenno in the past
Miasma now only does one tick per second of damage, right? If so, then maybe a way to fix is would be to double the number of ticks it does on enemies with procs on them (2 ticks with one, 4 ticks with two, 8 tick with three, etc), with the same amount of damage per tick.
If I'm wrong, trash me and say why I'm wrong.
They are supossed to mutate into different forms, thats why you can change your form and use different frames in the limited space inside the liset.
but that is headcanon a fuck, lets see how Steverino fix this mess.
so far the only thing confirmed is that the Orokin send some shit into the void and the frames are infested.
>Are the Orokin the most evil people in the story so far?
Dunno, would you sacrifice a few hundred to save millions?
Maybe the Orokin created the frames to stop the entire erradication of the human race by the sentient's hand.
thats Steverino trying to be deep when writing.
>Dunno, would you sacrifice a few hundred to save millions?
Even before that they created an entire race of clones to use as slave labour. And remember that the Tenno were plan B, plan A was "Wipe out literally everything but us with the Infestation"
Let this be a life lesson: if you ever want to work in gamedev - remember to play your own games (or anything you work on for that matter) and do the math, don't be like fatfuck.
its pathetic even considering lvl100's armor ~20x damage reduction ~160 venom damage ticks, ~1200 Miasma
frame balanced around Saturn lvl15 with a stupid cost to combo too shaking my baka nigger desu kikes
>that one cunt that decides to follow your around while spamming galatine in survival
Willing to trade Orthos Prime blueprint for energy siphon.
Is it just me, or is frost better at saryns job after the rework?
yeah they can also "communicate" with corpus bots that only go "beep" "boop"
are they corpus proxies too?
the "communication" between them is only a literary device nothing more
you can actually see this in the way they get enthralled when armor degrades in the raid
they only "hear" the infestation when it starts entering them
and the only infestation that directly talks to us uses either telepathy acquired by absorbed entities (Phorid and Nyx,Lephantis and who knows) or other means such as Rotten Alad and infested Cephalons
>They wouldnt dare
mother fucker, do you think they even care? They just fucked up a frame and now are sitting back and wondering what's for lunch and jerk each other off. They give no shits, hell they don't even think they did anything wrong!
Reminder that they nerfed Nyx ~month prior to priming her - they have no idea what they are doing.
Just like this time - release a premium timed 'exclusive' skin and nerf the frame to the ground at the same time.
-removes part of the armor
Its almost confirmed at this point. some people who bought the Saryn skin, got two helmets. One for regular, and presumably, one for Prime, if the Lato Vandal DotD skin was an indication of duplicate skins for same model shit.
Who wants to bet that DE doesn't do anything with Saryn, reverting/buffing/whatever, until after the Skin can no longer be bought from the store. Then the next liestream they explicitly state, "well you should have bought the skin, too bad, wait till next year, or never, whatever we feel like." And then the forums eat it up with more "thanks, DE" than ever.
I'm still positive that the reason Saryn's health was set to 125 base, was because Fatfuck actually did not know that she already had 150 base health, and though she had the standard 100. They don't play their own game. Becca playing it live during last liestream was probably the absolute first time they actually saw it in action.
Not even lelddit will suck that dick.
>there are cukcs in this gen who still throw money at DE
>Saryn faggots will still buy her GoyAcess
>there are people ITT right NOW who think that if saryn magically gets un-nerfed WarGrind will get better
>there are people who think DE will listen because they care, not because it might negatively impact the profits of the game
>these people are browsing
But every grandmaster and forumite still will.
So when you cast Spores on an enemy and pop it, the Spores will spread to nearby enemies. But when you pop those secondary spores, do they spread again?
I thought they would (infinite Spore chain) but some light playtesting told me they didn't. Wiki isn't clear and I'm not even sure if it's been updated
at lest used to spawn other spores
but less and the duration doesn't refresh
dont know if it works the same, could be bugged too - its DE
Fuck. How does (s)he not comprehend this nerf?
As expected though of the person who allegedly needs to pay 200 bucks a month for a sub based text to voice.
>Four Gods Tier
Loki, Trinity, Nova, Mirage
Nekros, Nyx, Vauban, Excalibur, Chroma, Frost
Ash, Hydroid, Mesa, Rhino, Valkyr, Volt
Banshee, Ember, Equinox, Zephyr
Limbo, Mag, Oberon, Saryn, Atlas
Reminder that 'partner' shills get boosters, new items and promo-codes for plat and market items for free.
Reminder to stop giving them clicks and attention.
>there are ass-sliders
Just few days till I'm finally free.
I will try to port Saryn
it shouldn't be too hard, right?
Me too anon.
>Dat milf fine latex ass.
>there are ass-sliders
Y-you lie! There's no way that can be true!
Ash will be press4towatchNauto no more, already confirmed, it will be a directional attack a-la Ex.
Then DesignCancer is discussing a way to nerf Valk.
Rhino is confirmed to get shitterskin buff, since he is Fatfuck alter-ego he cant be nerfed.
Also Fatfuck mentioned Mag 'rework'.
>getting ass kicked
>miasma does nothing
>my health is lowered
>oh god what is happening
why would they do this?
How do you use weapon appearance loadouts? I have a specific color combination for Saryn that clashes with my other frames, I don't want to keep switching every time
Someone told me last thread but I still can't figure it out
If you buy the new skin Saryn gets a buff, try it.
Pull affects 1 enemy or loot piece at a time, cost raised to 50
Shield Polarize only restores your team's shield, base range 15m affected by mods, costs 50
Bullet Attractor makes the target take 50% less damage, affected inversely by power strength (more strength = more damage resistance), fixed bubble size
Crush deals damage in 3, 1.5 seconds apart, -duration removes ticks, costs 150, range increased by 5 meters to compensate.
Of course, she also gains + .1 sprint speed, +2s wall cling (magnetized ;^)) and -10 base energy.
Pls, haven't they done enough to Mag already?
The worst part is that not only is Saryn ded, it's that she got killed before we ever got weight sliders or jiggle physics.
>cerata deals not-poison dmg when you throw it
>saryn becomes what everyone feared it would be, completely useless
>"Don't worry goys 'tis but a glitch your saryn will be as good ;^) but only buffed!"
>quietteshill only using butchers as demonstration while they have less hp than a charger and almost nonexistant armor
>forumites enjoying it because they can finally stealth melee in exterminates
>buy the goytard skin
>saryns hips and ass are gone
see you in 8 months
>Outfitted in the latest toxic fashion, DERebecca and [DE]Megan are showcasing Saryn’s revisited powers in a classic Orokin Derelict Defense mission. Tune in and watch the Infested bubble and boil!
Inb4 they use developer godmode.
>BAAAAW HE'S DOING MORE DAMAGE AND KILLING MORE ENEMIES THAN ME
>BETTER FOLLOW HIM AROUND AND SPAM MY SHIT TIER SPIN SWORD
I just want to max this qt out.
DE can shill their "buffed saryn" all they want on steam doing t1d, but theres quite a lot of people complaining on the forums already and I'm positive they outweigh the shills who always praise them
>Homo retard on youtube shilling DE this hard
>Saying the actual reworked saryn is good vs lvl 30 enemies
>Don't even use her vs high lvl enemies
>Even on simulacrum Saryn sucks massive balls
No wonder why DE thinks they are doing a good job with these retards sucking dicks so hard.
MFW AGayGuyGays is in my clan and I have to listen to his shit from time to time.
>build max range>damage>eff>dur
>math: spore damage increases exponentially as each pop reapplies spores to everyone in 36m
So miasma barely comes into play because everything is dead.. she's fine for the same tier of content she was fine at before. People are being big babies. Overall, a buff.
to witness this shitfest firsthand
or because you miss going fast
these fuckers never played saryn before
and still, to cast 3 skills to do the work of one, asides the new cost in energy, and the health nerf, even contagion working with melee makes no sense.
why even opinate? they are like the forum shills who think the skin was a good buff.
And now this fucking cumeater is going rampage on comments section without even posting any actual data.
Holy shit AGGP isn't just a massive trap who belongs to >>>/b/ he actually loves Steve's dick.
you can just press 4 on Ember once and go literally AFK
(just don't forget to check back in ~4 min for the stay/extract choice or the game will kick you out with no rewards)
>Thank You DE for finally making saryn into a frame that can reward people who want to actually play her instead of pressing 4. Much love <3
Some faggot in my clan just posted that
I'm leaving it.
Just tell him to stop shilling this hard, he sounds like he is not a retard, he can do basic math, he knows its a nerf and only shills cause he's a DE 'partner' with benefits.
>You to use exponentially more energy and time to do less dmg
>Not a nerf
Are they brain damaged?
>mfw i did than in region chat and glen tells me that feedback isn't allowed
That's not even like the ones Saryn has. They just forgot to add the heels or adjust the bones because DE quality control.
Still not the same thing. Retards with no knowledge of aesthetics please refrain from weighing in on visual matters there are plenty of crayon eater level mistakes for you to catch.
>Homo retard trying this hard on comment section
The EHP is only off by 139 points.. that's like a fucking sneeze. Not that I wouldn't have preferred that it stayed untouched, but literally its almost laughable to bring it up.
In addition, people are completely ignoring the fact that the garuanteed viral proc is INSANE and MUCH easier to spread than before.. so going up against an enemy with 100k health takes it down to 50k! Where's the fucking parade for that shit!? Saryn just did 50k damage.. AND OMFG she JUST spread it to 2 other enemies.. OMG THATS 150k DAAAAAMAAGE.. oh yeah, its because newbs only care about the numbers they can see.
REGARDLESS, I don't really have to worry about getting good.. because apparently there are some concepts that have skimmed right over your puny head. tsk tsk tsk. Now go crawl back to the newbie forums where you seem to be more comfortable.
>I don't really have to worry about getting good.. because apparently there are some concepts that have skimmed right over your puny head. tsk tsk tsk
>garuanteed viral proc
just like before.. oh wait, except it was constant and permanent
>MUCH easier to spread than before
>Where's the fucking parade
either full-shill denial or he is a shitter who never knew how Saryn worked, Venom always proc'ed viral and hp decimation was permanent, so there is your fucking parade, a funeral one
but.. you can. I don't fucking understand your logic. I spore one guy, pop all his spores, now EVERYONE in 38m around me has spores. When they pop, everyone within 10m of them will take splash damage, and will have spores applied within 36m of them... So every mob within 10 meters of each other will deal exponential damage based off of how many mobs are within range.
Just to clarify that's one of the post of AGGP on his channel LMAO.
Here is another one:
"- LMAO oh so this is about shilling for DE? Lol do you dislike DE or something? So just because i think BAD players shouldn't be catered to, and just because i LIKE the mechanics of the new abilities.. I'm not allowed to back up my opinion with FACTS, because I'm a shill? What a fucking IDIOT.
If I'm a fucking shill, then how about this.. you're a bad player for not liking her rework, so your opinion has ZERO bearing. You're just one of those people who lacks skill so you throw tantrums. You aren't ALLOWED an opinion because you're so ignorant and blind.
GET GOOD, or GET OUT. ;)-"
This guy can't even use the actual data to back up his own shilling, jesus christ this is why warframe is so fucked up.
>This whole comment section
>Fagging getting BTFO in his own channel
Damn, you're pretty good. Have a (You).
I really hope you're only pretending to be retarded.
>I'm good player cause I'm praising a nerf
>throw a tantrum and call others on throwing a tantrum
this is what cognitive dissonance looks like, he knows the rework is bad, but he has to defend his masters who give him free stuff, so he goes full retard
what is this about venom being useless? i remember that busting the balls would deal all their left over damage, last time i checked that was 1k per cast of venom, a pretty good damage for a single target skill
Working as intended, fuck off shills.
>Since this game is based off a moba style
Warframe will benefit from ability cooldowns. This is fact.
90% of the problems in Warframe come from OP ability spam (other 10% from enemy scaling). Permanent invis. Permanent disarm. Permanent 99% damage reduction. Permanent disables. Infinite energy. The reason the game is so easy is because abilities are overpowered, but that by itself isn't a big deal - the problem is that abilities are incredibly easy to cast with no cooldown and 75% efficiency. Adding ability cooldowns will change the game into something more than just "press 4 to win" because now you can only press 4 to win every 20 seconds.
There's a reason why LITERALLY EVERY OTHER RPG IN EXISTENCE HAS COOLDOWNS.
which has limited range, small aoe and needs line of sight - so not even close to exponential
and if you have to shoot mobs you just do it with a good weapon, you know that one which kills a room of lvl100s in few sec
sorry Saryn, you are useless
>90% of the problems in Warframe come from OP ability spam
Oh wow you are fucking retarded kid. Want me to inform you what 90% of the problems in warframe really is? It's the grindwall not your imaginary "OP" abilities.
>Warframe will benefit from
a gamedesigner with a clue who plays the game
yeah I know we said it many times, but its a fact - fat retard will fuck up anything, change the system all you like, when there is an incompetent drunkard who never plays, cant do math and forgets how his own mechanics work - there is no hope it will be any balances and good
holy fuck you managed to miss the entire point of my post>>121381037
you've read my post but completely missed the point
how is such basic reading comprehension beyond your grasp
Grinding itself won't be as big a problem if the base gameplay was more fun, i.e. not as easy
Imagine if they gave you every single item in the game
Then made every single enemy Mercury-tier with no scaling
Playing the game shouldn't feel like work. Playing the game should be FUN
Grindwall has nothing to do with it. Grindwall merely delays the reward, but the journey itself should still be fun
I'm fine with that, but only if they are all equally nerfed and all the weapons too. The game is way too easy - there is no challange = no fun.
Some abilities are just built-in cheats and playing with cheats is boring in the long run.
Stop typing like you're on reddit you dumb fuck.
>Grindwall has nothing to do with it.
It has everything to do with it. I can tell you have no experience in game design. If you don't reward your player for doing tasks then they wont want to play your game. There is more grind than there is reward in this game.
The missions themselves are already repetitive, the maps are repetitive, they've removed the only fun movement system the game had and replaced it with slow, they are making the grind last longer by nerfing frames that made the gind go faster. Everything in the past couple of months have done nothing but extended the grind and reduced FUN in their game.
DE has huge problems with their game. The warframe abilities should be the least of their worries at this point. Their game needs a serious overhaul and nerfing warframes wont give them that.
I have a feeling they know they can't listen to the forums and are trying to get feedback in the dumbest (and jewest) way possible.
If people buy it, the update was good. If not, they fucked up.
>This game will be dead within a year, if not less
this is where you are wrong, the game has poor retention and its ded for nerd and min-maxers like us, but for noobs and casual shitters its an amusement park where they dont have to put much effort (especially when they buy plat and pay2notgrind)
they dont see how broken and exploitable the mechanics are, they will buy another shiny turd and play some low level stuff where everything works
I can tell that you're a fucktard trying to cover up the fact he has no idea what he just read. Some of my points are subjective but infinite invis/bless/disables are not
I already said why grind is not the main problem. Grind itself won't even be a problem if it doesn't feel like grind. They can give you 10 million plat and every single prime part in the game and it will STILL be garbage because it's just not fun to play.
Look at Cookie Clicker or any one of those similar games where gameplay is a carrot on a stick. You have instant gratification for the smallest actions you take but guess what? Game still sucks
fuck off back to the forums, you stupid shitter.
Not gonna lie, you're gonna need to forma him a few times too.
I think fully set up he has something like 99.7% damage reduction and +500% weapon damage with Vex Armour and Elemental Ward Cold fully engaged
If you care this much about credentials, I have placed top10 in the events, and seen lvl9999 (max possible) the only people who played more than me are turbo nerds like Colstro, Waifu and some other nolifers.
This game is fucking easy boring grindan, regardless of levels, when you know what you are doing. And you just grind low levels for RNG - your skill and effort is not rewarded. I would prefer a game where you actually get better rewards for harder missions, a game with challenge, not a boring timesink for casuals.
That's really interesting!
Now fuck off
>take Mesa for the first time since nerf
>Do Peacemaker in an ODD
>Infested stop coming to the pod and wait until I put peacemaker away to charge
>test this on other endless missions
>same thing happens
what the literal fuck
the only one upset is you that no one cares about your life achievements you deluded faggot
These are the same people that would post "I'm a Grandmaster, you're a master. Remember that" unironically and still act like irredeemably retarded after saying it. As they've exhibited here.
I hadn't noticed it elsewhere specific, but god damn. You use Peacemaker in a room and ti gets quiet and even infested just don't come near you until you put it away.
So I'm reading up on that Excalibur rework and I see that syndicate augments don't apply to the lightsaber. Now does that mean the entire mod is not applied or just the +1 part is ignored?
>tfw watching the forums burn over the rework
Don't really care about the effect, I'm more interested in the +100% damage that comes with it. This is probably a stupid question but we're dealing with DE here. Can't assume anything no matter how logical it is.
Why are we still here?
Every night, I can feel my legs, my arms, even my fingers
the Pull I've lost, the Shield Transference I've lost
Won't stop hurting, it's like they're all still there
You feel it too, don't you?
I'm gonna make them give back our past
well. as far as i understand de did excatly what they wanted to do
and they don't give a shit about saryn now being useless on draco level content. it is just a frame casul players can play on casul planets and enjoy
they won't touch her any time soon for sure. maybe small tweaks but nothing big. just get over it guys.
hopefully i am wrong though
So to make the game more interesting by, say reworking missions to be more rewarding (less bloated tables, five carbon copy gamemodes in three exciting flavours), reworking missions all together (nightmare survivals now add nightmare modifiers /10 minutes, defense missions are based on kills/number instead of 40 minutes to wave 6) you accept that nerfing the frames relentlessly is an acceptable way to make the game more challenging?
Have you considered not using a mouse or controller, just binding look to the keyboard? Really it's the ultimate difficulty spike, I think you'd enjoy it.
And I'm not entirely against Saryn's rework either, being able to nuke level 80s with a single 4 is bullshit but she did not need her health sapped
Excal was nerfed because of Draco.
Mag was nerfed because of Draco
Mesa was nerfed because of Draco
now Saryn is nerfed because of Draco.
Do you think it's just coincidence that she got murdered right when people started using her in Draco, because Mesa was nerfed?
They might do a minor tweak and then ignore her for the next frame.
I wish they'd fix Hydriod, Mag, or Oberon. Y'know, frames that actually NEED work. Instead they turned Saryn into another casual frame that does nothing special.
And every other damage frame that is used for Draco will be nerfed because no one will actually address the underlying problem of grindframe's tedious grinding.
Have you noticed no CC abilities get nerfed? Just damage ones.
>Saryn rework thread
am I tripping balls here or what
Except, she stopped being able to one shot anything, even with max damage, at around 50-60. Especially if whatever you are hitting isn't weak against corrosive damage. Speaking of Miasma and Corrosive, if you read anything from anyone about Miasma proccing corrosive, they are automatically a shill and have not actually played since the update. 10 minutes of spamming Miasma on level 60 enemies every time it wore off (which is buggy as all hell, there seems to be a 1-2 second cooldown after Miasma wears off before recasting does anything). Then another 5 minutes just absolutely spamming on level 100 enemies. I was standing under the Energy respawner letting Carrier vaccume up energy so I could spam forever, and not ONCE did I see a single corrosive proc on any of the dozen enemies that I spawned at a time. Every cast of Miasma did the same exact damage. I even brought along a corrosive grakata to make sure corrosive procs weren't inherently broken, and it was working perfectly.
>more clipping problems
>done goofed with misisng heels
yeah, you have a shit taste, enjoy this garish makeover
for a useless frame
I love how it starts
>I don't have this frame
>suggests a rework for a frame he doesn't have
I'm waiting for the Bladestorm nerf, and then Tonkor nerf.
Why can't we have fun things.
I disliked Saryn to begin with
She was my most played frame and I brought her everywhere, even places I shouldn't. I speedran invasions with her, I futzed about on defense with her, I brought her on Nightmare alerts and speedran those too knowing my moderate tankiness and health regen would keep me alive without shields and I could always tap 4 and 2 when I got in a jam, I used her in the Void, I ERP'd with her in the Dojo, my first Rank 10 mod was Transient Fortitude just for Miasma. The only place I didn't take her was Spy missions because her ass was too fat to get by some of the laser doors and Loki made life so much easier.
At least now I have a reason to quit!
I agree, but they go over the top with nerfs so if they do touch it again it'll be another mastery fodder weapon.
I don't want to be so negative but DE doesn't help the process...
What we need is a sane rebalace, but DE is too incompetent for that, they can either nerf to the ground or make something so stupidly OP it quickly kills everything in large area with infinitely scaling damage. Of course both variants are bad.
Crippling player controls is so-called 'artificial difficulty' - a sign of a bad gamedeveloper.
>meet pub Valkyr
>I am such a slut lol anyone here has skype? I like dick XD
>go to forum
>9 out of 10 of them are probably greasy fat dudes
I wish she got a nerf too.
Probably the final straw but it's a part of a bigger picture. I mean I've been with WF long enough, I know DE are idiots, but I could still enjoy the game sometimes (after taking breaks) but lately they've been making too many changes for the worse, they are blind to the feedback, they turned up the censorship (after Halloween aura fiasco), new raid is buggy trash. They plan to fuck up weapons and starchart as well. Idiotic Saryn nerf is just another detail and a proof of incompetence. Year of quality my ass. There is no more hope left.
And I just needed another game to replace WF - it comes out in few days
it will be crap at first too, but we can fix it with mods
>people who think MR correlates to skill in any way
ITS BETTER! You just dont understand how to use it! GET GOOD, you bonehead monekey!
gee so nice to be a partner and get everything for free, and all I have to do is shill and make silly vids
The capeshit comment was helpful; capes in warframe look awful by default and usually don't fit well. You'd be better off trying to design a scarf proper instead of another large thing to obscure parts of your frame.
it's like seeing a cute girl but knowing she's a lesbian; you want her, but know that it's ultimately a moot point. Saryn's recent nerf removed what little reason players had for her.
Remember when being MR10 was an achievement and almost all players of that rank had experience playing every frame and understanding of game mechanics?
Remember when we didn't have a horde of consoleshitters on the forums?
on a scale from 'ow' to 'edge' how pretty am I