"Even sunlight can cast shadows." Edition
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Life is Strange is an episodic interactive drama from DONTNOD Entertainment. Set in the Pacific Northwest in the town of Arcadia Bay, the player follows the story of Maxine Caulfield and her seemingly newfound ability to turn back time. At the prestigious Blackwell Academy, Max must prepare with Chloe Price for the incoming storm of returning to her hometown after five years. Available on Steam, PSN and Xbox Live.
>FAQs, Old Threads/Strawpolls & Soundtrack/Music:
>/lisg/ Community written fanfic:
>/lisg/ Content Producers:
>Petition for an extended ending:
>Which scenes from Episode 5 were good?
>Which scenes from Episode 5 were bad?
>Which of these would make the best OTP?
>What do you think about Rachel's brother being the protagonist of LiS Season 2?
>Do you hate Warrenkeks?
>What awards did the game deserve? (Vote for six)
>Pick all that describe your feelings towards Episode 5
>What does dontnod really think about the endings.
>How was the supporting cast utilised in Episode 5?
>How many characters would you be willing to let (unambiguously) die to save Chloe?
>Who does lisg hate the most?
>Now that it's been 2 weeks, are you still pissed off about the ending?
kate is cute
but chloe is chloe
My friend Dr Zaius and I are putting together a flowchart (a-la-/mu/) of music similar to LiS
If you want to contribute, please contact us on steam, or reply to this post.
not-so Current Pastebin of game's music/progress:
Thanks to photoshopgril for putting together the background image,
polaroidgril for assembling the album covers/artist names/etc. onto the background image,
Dr. Zaius for helping in general.
I am working on a few different thoughts for the flowchart. If you guys have any ideas, please share.
I have a torrent of all the games music, Morali's OST, the Vortex Club party, all the licensed songs (most in lossless format), and all the albums they were taken from.
Alternative download on MEGA, if you get it from here, please add the files to your torrent folder to facilitate easier downloads for others.
Someone explain Brookate to me
The sketch in the bottom left is all you need, friend. :3
They produce 99% of the content for a ship for 2 characters that don't even appear in the same scene together. The only thing you have to go on is if Max saves Kate Brooke says she was happy to see her come off the roof
>You think they might be interested? I'm not even sure I know their tumblr page, though I have seen it before.
I have no idea, it probably depends how busy they are, and if they'd feel weird about contributing to something post-finale after working with dontnod?
B-but I'm equally shy anyway so, yeah, I'm also too scared to ask.
The little Chloe Graham wakes up from a dream... She could travel thru time on it, to the past, and sees a woman called Rachel Amber being kidnapped
Max's daughter mind gets back to the future, it's 2023 already, and her mother and brother are waiting for Warren to come home, which never happens... he disappeared all of a sudden
Chloe and her brother meet Victoria Chase. the head of a company, and her little daughter, Beverly
The relationship between those three grows, and 6 years later, Mrs Victoria Chase takes them to accomplish a mission, taking Nathan Prescott out of jail
They manage to do it with some cash from Mrs Chase company
Nathan is on his own now, no money from the family, no more family, all he's got is the Team: Victoria and Beverly Chase, and Chloe and Warren Graham Jr
To find out about the tornado from 2013 they need to find the main cause, a disappeared man called Warren Graham
Warren Caulfield is not like his sister, he's a sick mind, full of envy, only Chloe could herit Max's power and somehow, making them more powerful, she can send whatever she wants to the past or to the future
Forcing his sister, he manages to travel to the past, to begin his sick plan of kidnapping girls, drug them and take pictures, and becoming a famous photographer that mets his mother when she was a teenager, that mother he hates, the mother that betrayed him by giving powers only to his sister
Then he mets Rachel Amber, who would die some months later because of an overdose.
In 1962, on a cult called The Vortex, Rachel was seen as a goddess, because of that, she's considered special, she is eternal, never ages. In 2013 Rachel is still the same girl that died in the fire in that dark October 10th
Only the fire can kill her, they thought, but they were wrong unluckily
In 1963, the leader of the Vortex Cult, Stacy Marsh, decides to tell her daughter and then her granddaughter Kate, to stay close to the situations involving rachel Amber
>enlarge the picture to judge it better
>stare at it for a few seconds
That scared me for a second.
there was that cut line (that was still there in the leaked version iirc) from the rooftope scene about Kate's friends and if you picked "Brooke" she would say that Brooke makes fun of her beliefs.
That's just awful though and not in a Victoria way where she fucks with Max and Kate because she's insecure. That's fedora tipper let's shit on someone because they choose to believe in a higher power
By pulling strings, Kate Marsh would be able to force Nathan to do what he does, drugging Rachel, not killing her, she can't die, but as long as she's drugged, she's unconciouss
Thats the safest way to prevent tragedies
Rachel Amber can't die, and she shouldn't live either, a coma is the best way to keep the world away from evil
Kate, following orders from her mother, lets the Prescott boy drug her so she can find out the hidden place where Rachel was, and to gain information without being caught, that way, the Vortex can be sure about Rachel's coma.
When the police, guided by Max, find Rachel's body, they fuck things up so bad, and she can be free again, and everyone knows that would be a catastrophe
The only way to stop this is managing somehow to create a natural disaster, something that's not suspicious, the biggest brain on Arcadia Bay, Warren Graham, is taken as the Vortex scientist to make it happen, but it will take a lot of time, so they need Max.
According a marriage between Max and Warren, and keeping the time travel powers safe by giving them to the little Chloe Graham, is the safest way to accomplish the mission.
Using little Chloe's power to send the tornado back in time, they erase Arcadia Bay from the map, leaving Rachel in a coma underground forever
The unfortunate disappearing of Warren in the future, is keeping The Team worried, only he can create the tornado, and he will, but they have to find him, if not, the history will be altered again, for worse
From the current live stream, the developer confirms that the phone call Jefferson has in Episode 2 was never supposed to be important. Just a way to end the conversation and allow Max to go into the classroom to talk with Victoria/Nathan.
I told you guys the game wasn't as deep as you thought! It's all worthless we've been bamboozled
Grahamscott cuteposting anyone?
He's just being a cheeky sod
and when Kate was talking about feeling a sting in her neck at some point after being taken by Nathan he said that ''those who've played the game know what has already happened''
So, how about some
P R I C E F I E L D
S A D P O S T I N G
I went looking at post-finale fanvids earlier and they all end up depressing as fuck with bay end footage. People are really lapping up that tragic ded chloe ending.
Wowser, is someone giving that coffeeskater fic some visuals?
They'd at least have to address it if enough people kept asking that question. Obviously I wouldn't expect any official announcement, just a "maybe" or "it's definitely possible". Just something.
Jesus Christ you shitposting mother fuckers.
Let's go. First impression of the game going into it blind?
I thought it was going to be some lame horror game where you have to solve shitty puzzles while you walk in a spoopy forest yet nothing actually ever happens. I mean on some levels I was right but...anyway.
Then once we got to leave the classroom I really saw the magic. That music while exploring the halls, then the first encounter with the bathroom scene. I knew it was special from that point on. But the paint puzzle thing turned me off a bit. It's ok because because I got to see Warrkek get best after annoying the shit out of me.
>Let's go. First impression of the game going into it blind?
A fantastic idea with vast potential squandered by inept hands at every conceivable turn. A game with a smattering of truly great moments held together with duct tape, baling wire, and a flawless soundtrack that finally collapses under its own weight at the end.
>watching dev stream
how did the game turned out in Chloe or Town?
If I make a twitch account and spam this in the chat during ep5 how quickly will I get banned? I want to see tumblrinas get mad
and also try to push the stream into saving chloe.
>When the mist descends
>And hope is gone
>We'll freeze a dream
>To last until another dawn
>'Cos when the mountains fall
>And crumble into dust
>Our bones may turn to stone
>But hearts like ours don't rust
SO WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP IN /lisg/'s MASTER PLAN?
I never went blind since I followed the game since Gamescom 2014.
But I was expecting that
a) it will probably make me int oa mess
b) it will havea great story that will wow me
It managed to a) but never in hell would i have thought how much of an utter, depressing waste of potential this will end up being.
This game deserved so much more. Like competent writers.
Sorry, didn't understand at first.
I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere. Not like here. Here everything is soft and smooth.
If Dontnod's going to make a DLC, it needs to be set in an alternate universe and feature Max, Chloe, Vic, Kate, Nathan and Warren hanging out in a cabin and then shit happens.
A horror game DLC is PERFECT for Life is Strange.
The music for the game, specifically the trailers, was so good.
I like how some of the songs hint towards the endings, but can also be interpreted to "support" either choice.
For instance, I like the song On My Side.
>There’s a storm when she is ragin’
>Turns cold when she's forsaken
>You can’t stop the hurtin’
>But you can drop the curtain
I could see how that references both possible endings.
Even though it was never a choice for me since I already knew what option I would pick if the predictions about the ending came true.
I hate how no one who I've seen play this game ever talks to Chloe after the kiss. That "don't you dare rewind that" line is the cutest shit, man. Not even the fucking devs did it, what the hell man.
>tfw there will never be DLC where Kate is torn apart by her feelings for Max and her faith
>tfw she will never find a way to concile these two
>tfw we will never have a qt lesbian Christian wedding scene
just put me out of my misery already, I'm begging you
That whole dialog is the cutest shit.
>Cue_E3_5A_ChloeRoom_CHChloe_MaxChloe_Chloe_021="You would have too. Smart, sexy and sassy... Like me, right?"
And it actually gives some exposition to Chloe's and Rachel's personalities.
There's one or two optional Chloe conversations I always forget to do - the one in her room in episode 1 (the rewindable one about Max's life), and the one at the junkyard about the origins of Max's power.
After we learned more about Chloe and Rachel, that song did indeed seem like it was about Rachel watching over Chloe and also being the cause of the storm. And while it still does, I think it can apply to Max now as well.
The first part seems to be about someone watching over her from above, while the second part talks about being reunited with someone (Which could either be Max, in life. Or with Rachel, in death- depending on the ending picked)
Life is Strange: Until Dawn Edition?
>The music for the game, specifically the trailers, was so good.
Ok but can we crack the meaning of Seeker of Sight?
>Seeker of the sight
>Creature of the crime
>Feature of the flight
>Leacher of the lie
>Breacher of the bind
>Teacher of the time
>How they conform
>How they swarm
>The meteors alight
>And it's burning up so bright
>I see it as a sign
>Freezing out of fright
>Prisoners of the night
>Driven to the fire
So the developer just confirmed that the blue jay spirit animal is NOT Rachel. But he said they thought a lot about what all the different animals represent.
So the Bluejay is related to someone, but not Rachel. It would seem that the Butterfly must be Chloe. Could it be Max? Joyce? David?
It's hard for me to imagine Rachel. If she wanted to be/ was a model, she had to have some type of shape to her. But at the same time, she was roughly the same size as Max.
Plus, trying to think of what her voice would sound like.
It would have been neat to have at least heard a recording of her from a phone message or something.
choise matters! multi ending! wow wow such a great story!
>Feature of the flight
>How they conform
>How they swarm
>The meteors alight
>And it's burning up so bright
>I see it as a sign
>Freezing out of fright
>Prisoners of the night
RUN FROM GIANT TORNADO YOU GOD DAMN SHEEP
Butterfly is Rachel.
Blue jay is Chloe.
Calling it now.
What if the Butterfly is Max.
It was in the bathroom, and was the reason she was in hiding when Chloe and Nathan came in.
It allowed her to save the girl, even thought she didn't know who it was at the time.
In the Sacrifice Chloe ending we're supposed to assume it's a representation of Chloe, but what if it's more a representation of Max landing on the casket to say "Good fucking job dumb shit, you killed your best friend. Why do you think you had that power? Fuck this *flutters away*"
That's fucking dumb. Why would Rachel be following Max to all the places she went with Chloe in the bay ending when the old photos burn and new ones appear with Max alone with the butterfly in the background?
Same reason why Rachel likes color blue and wears an earring with a blue feather, but doesn't have a blue bird as her spirit animal.
Because why the fuck not.
Maybe Rachel is reuniting with Chloe, and Max is happy to see that.
I'm pulling this out of my ass right now, just so you know.
>Same reason why Rachel likes color blue and wears an earring with a blue feather, but doesn't have a blue bird as her spirit animal.
Because why the fuck not.
You know that dev guy who is currently streaming doesn't really know every little detail about the game, right? Especially not dropped plotlines that never went anywhere. Who gives a shit what those spirit animals represent if the devs themselves never went anywhere with it?
>You know that dev guy who is currently streaming doesn't really know every little detail about the game, right?
I know that he doesn't know every little detail. I don't know which details he does know, though. Maybe he's telling the truth, or maybe he's also pulling it out of his ass.
Either way, we need something to talk about.
It's oddly cute to have such dedication to something so vile
I like to imagine:) that Nate has a personalised ringtone for Vic that's a loop of "Victoria, Victoria, Victoria, 'toria" from the Kinks
Like how Todd has that Lydia ringtone in Breaking Bad :3
>Max is happy to see that
I don't think Max have been happy with Rachel if they found her alive. While they may have been friends, I think Max would have been pissed at Rachel for lying to Chloe. And I think Chloe would have been equally pissed, especially since Max would be around and Chloe would have something to compare Rachel to and see that she had flaws. Flaws she didn't notice when she clung to Rachel as the only good thing in her life.
Then again, I think Rachel never really committed to a relationship with Chloe because she knew Chloe ultimately loved Max over her. Even if Chloe was too bone-headed during those five years trying to act like she hated Max.
Because I love you, anon.
>I don't think Max have been happy with Rachel if they found her alive.
I didn't mean that Max would've been happy with Rachel. I meant that she would've been happy that Chloe had finally reunited with her other close friend/crush.
Even if they're both dead.
>Chloe: not even shocked at this point considering how often you go at it
H-how much are they fucking and then telling everyone about it
I really would have liked it if Max had shown some jealousy towards Rachel and Chloe had responded to it in some way.
Like during that moment in Chloe's room after the kiss where Max says "Maybe Rachel would have fought over the both of us."
I wonder what Chloe's response would have been if Max had said "Maybe Rachel and I would have fought over you."
>you will never take portraits of max's perfect innocent body
It's true love.
I'm in such pain for how these brilliant characters and atmosphere were wasted on such a stupid plot and schizophrenic pacing. Especially knowing they'll all probably be cast aside with no DLC never to be heard from again to make way for a new cast in season 2, which will probably just make the same mistakes.
>"Maybe Rachel and I would have fought over you."
Dude that's gay
anyway, there is that moment at the pool where Chloe compliments Max and Max is like "i'm more amazing than Rachel?" and Chloe says"...I'm not her groupie okay?"
Also in EP1 when discussing who Rachel is for the first time there is an option for Max to say "so Rachel replaced me.."
That's the only stuff I recall, otherwise Max pretty much keeps her jealousy to herself.
>Chloe and Victoria
Everyone is clearly upset with this union why won't they stop it
Dev confirmed on this charity stream that Katie from Frank's list doesn't refer to Kate Marsh. So that's cool.
At least post Jeffershit ships that actually make sense
I would if it was a 1D thread, but nope it's clearly still lisg
Wait, did they specifically say injected? Because injecting someone at a party is fucking weird when you could just put it in her drink. Are you sure they weren't talking about injecting her in the dark room?
no cause druggging and killing is bad
Everyone is fucked up you don't need to add extra fucked up quirks to these characters. Like Chloe doesn't need to be bulimic or some shit to add to how depressed she is
No one is trying to fuck some old hipster lady that's also a murderer
not as much as you'd expect I guess.
That call Jefferson takes at the end of Ep2 isn't from anyone important or shady. They don't want to reveal which spirit animal belongs to whom, but they did put some thought into that and he specifically mentions that blue jay ISN'T Rachel's. He also put cheeky emphasis on how the doe/Rachel seems to be guiding Max, the fact that there's a drawing of a doe next to Rachel's missing person's poster in the Two Whales bathroom and how the spirit doe is lying on Rachel's grave in junkyard.
>incest situation between Max and her daughter?
Remember when this was our most compelling yet whackjob theory?
I wish I could rewind time to make that the proper reveal and ending.
Can there be DLC where everyone is friends and just hang out with each other and there are no psychopaths and there's heavy sexual tension between Max and
If destiny exists, then Max saving Chloe was what was destined to happen. Max cannot exist outside the universe as a seperate entity, her powers and how she uses them is already part of the destiny of that world.
Help. I can't stop reading fics about after the game and how Max & Chloe travel around while also trying to heal from their traumas.
Even if they're not particularly good, I've been at least glancing over any I can kind in the hopes that it is good.
There's one, that kind of goes off in it's own thing, where Chloe and Max stay in Arcadia Bay to rebuild it and eventually Chloe becomes mayor of the town. Kind of interested to see where that one goes even though it's practically AU at this point.
Oh boy. Weed and whores for everyone.
This is a two-parter.
This one is about marriage.
I think there were more (I believe one had "death toll in thousands"), but I can't find them. Try asking on /u/.
The person who wrote this must have an interest in politics because they seem to know what they're talking about when they get to that part.
Also, Max is pretty fucked up in it (But she gets better
and even gets Jeffershit's old job)
>death toll in thousands
Ah, found it.
And a Bay ending that turns into Bae.
And wheelie!Chloe smut, because why the hell not.
>caring about global stats
Who cares if Max shared one little kiss with Waldo? It was just to throw him a little bit of a bone right before he thought it was the end.
He's probably dead now anyway, and Max is with Chloe.
>Goes to kill Chloe
>Loses the picture in the wind
Jesus fuck, that must have been awkward.
>And a Bay ending that turns into Bae.
I like this one O:
So just out of curiosity how would you feel if
an anon from this general got curious and tried to see just how far kazmir29 would go?
>Wouldn't it be romantic if Max and Jefferson murdered Kate together?
Nah. Right after the funeral, Max will go up to Chloe's room and start looking at her stuff, then she will snap and immediately go back to save her.
And hopefully tell Joyce and David to get the fuck out of Arcadia Bay this time.
>Max and Chloe talking about having sex in the garage
>Max says "Not in front of the kids" referring to their cars/ bike
>Chloe proposing to Max inside of a full auditorium
That's a decent story so far. Definitely OOC, by at least how we know them. But the author is doing their own thing, even if I don't really like the idea of Max turning into how Chloe was with tats, dyed hair, etc. I just can't picture her like that.
I can see her doing this. She loves her too much to let her stay dead.
You're right, Max does care about everyone.
She could obviously try to make everyone leave. But who would really believe her?
"Hey everyone! A massive tornado is going to fuck up the town at the end of the week, better leave!" that's not exactly going to work.
The only people to believe her was Chloe and that old woman.
Plus everyone everyone in Arcadia Bay had four hours to either find shelter or GTFO
Has anyone done one of these sort of thingswith Breaking Bad? Because shit, is it fitting now that I think about it.
>Crass-yet-sensitive junkie kid ousted by rich parents with crushing expectations
>Crippling need for approval that leads to immoral behaviour, warped values and easy manipulation
>Single out-of-reach female relative who understood and nurtured him
>Only friends are shallow enabling 'drug friends', with actual meaningful bonds formed with manipulative father figures and damaged-but-encouraging female peers
>Carries immense guilt for deaths that can be equally attributed to his manipulators
>Eternal fuck-up and butt-monkey of the universe
>Washed up, egomaniacal big-shot stuck working for peanuts as a high school teacher in a nothing town
>Picks up protege out of need but constantly brings him down as if he's worthless
>Refuses to entertain that progete's abilities could ever nearly match his own
>Covets recognition in a highly illegal field where he can't exactly share his work
>Thinks any layman gives a shit about highly specific things that allegedly make his work better than others'
This fic killed off the QT. As well as Luke and Hayden.
It wouldn't have the same dynamic as Walt and Jesse. Walt legitimately cared about his partner and often risked his own neck to bail him out of situations. Also Walt gets stuck in a dead-end high school job whereas Jefferson took it up for the purposes of his work.
The dream of the storm gave Max those powers not Chloe. Chloe was just at the wrong place at the wrong time and she pissed off the wrong people by trying to blackmail them. She's also a bitch and has a very manipulative, while at the same time Warren would help her without any conditions or wanting anything in return. He's overall a better choice than Chloe, but I doubt you yurishits will listen because "muh lesbian."
>not showing up for Rachel's funeral
Right, look whatever relationship Chloe had with Rachel it kinda obvious that she sees Max as some sort of crappy substitute. She doesn't genuinely like Max as much as Rachel, and if Rachel was around she wouldn't even bother being friends with Max.
It pains me to admit it but had Max just told Warren in the first place the story would get resolved much quicker. He'd probably have worked out that Max's power was going to cause a storm by the Tuesday evening when the eclipse took place.
>Max rejects him when he tries to give her a hug, and will only even consider kissing him right before what could be his death
>Her subconscious reduces him into a raving lunatic that is obsessed with her
Yup. He totally had a chance.
I see it as completely the opposite. Rachel had to have heard about Max and known how closer her and Chloe were. I think that's why Rachel never (At least that we can see) returned Chloe's feelings- because she knew she was the substitute and would be relegated to a lesser role if Max came back into Chloe's life.
It's also why she knew Max was the person to give the rewind ability to. Someone who would be able to save Chloe and give her a true shot at happiness.
>>Her subconscious reduces him into a raving lunatic that is obsessed with her
It's really sad that, after episode 4 suggested there was more to Warren's life than 24/7 Max obsession, he's reduced to 'omg Max' and 'retarded exposition' in episode 5.
No tears, because he's hardly the only or most important character who got absolutely shafted, but christ. I really thought they'd be able to trick me into liking him by the end of it.
That's only if you pick all of the yurifag dialog choices, if you picked:
-promised to go on a date with Warren
-help him with science project
-tell Brooke that Warren isn't into him
Then the locker wouldn't be interactable.
I'm just trying to explain the whole concept of fate and destiny to you, you moronic fuck.
No matter where or how or why Max got her powers, the fact that she did get them and the fact that she did use them means that whatever she used them for WAS the fated event. Max and her powers do not exist outside of her own reality. A universe where predetermined fate exists would also be responsible for Max gaining her powers and would already know exactly how she would use them.
The only other way for Max to prevent something that was fated to happen was if she got her powers from a godlike entity that is above the universe itself. In which case, the will of that entity should probably be prioritized over what the universe deems the proper course of fate.
Ignoring the locker, he's just screaming "APE APE APE etc."
Regardless of your choices, in the end, it's not Warren who saves Max from her own ramblings and fears of inadequacy/ wrongdoing. It's Chloe.
I'm sorry but Rachel is just a slut that died, nothing more nothing less. Actually same goes for Chloe, the story is about Max. And Max's personality is that she wanted to save everyone, not just Chloe, that is just Max's personality. It doesn't have shit to do with some lesbo subplot which the dev put in there to satisfy Tumblr/Reddit. Which is why the Sacrifice Bay ending doesn't make any sense.
No matter what choices you make in this game, it is always about Chloe. This game has no Warren "route". He's an insignificant side character with maybe 10 minutes of dialogue total. You played through ~10 hours of a game that revolves purely around the relationship between Chloe and Max. The only change in that story you have influence over is whether at the end Max sees Chloe as her very best friend and soulmate, or as her very best friend and love interest.
Denial isn't good for you anon. No matter what choices you make. Chloe will always be Max's number 1 priority, all that matters to her. The lesbian subplot doesn't matter one bit because even if you decide to go the friendship route, it's still all about Chloe for Max.
We don't know who/ what Rachel is because we got very little info and were left to fill in the gaps. I see it fit to believe that Rachel was the one who gave Max the power. If you think otherwise than that is fine.
But what has been established is that throughout episode 3-5, Max's priority was to save Chloe (Either from sadness or death).
It's not about satisfying anyone with Max and Chloe's friendship/ love because THAT IS THE STORY of the game.
Even before Max does anything you can read her journal and see she wishes she kept in contact with Chloe and still wanted to see her.
Plus the other problem with a predetermined fate is that Max regains her memories on the Friday. Imagine two Maxes, one who only had memories of Chloe dying in the bathroom and the other remembering a grand time travel adventure. There's no way the remainder of their lives would be flawlessly identical mirrors of one another. Time travel Max supposedly reset the path to its right course when she let Chloe die, but she has no idea what steps she's supposed to perform once the auto-pilot stops. The tornado is probably going to be reset once Max does something that throws the predetermined path off the rails. Plus it's never established that she lost her powers either. In fact I think Max and Chloe bring up the possibility that it was always subconsciously inside her.
If any change in time created the storm, then Max did it when she was in Jefferson's class and answered the question using knowledge she wouldn't have had without the ability to turn back time. And there's no way to undo that change because she did it before getting to the bathroom the second time (Which is where she goes to if she lets Chloe die, because there wasn't a surviving photo from the first time)
Since that's a smaller change than saving a life, it could take longer for the effects to manifest. But it's the same principle: make a small change with large consequences down the line.
Arcadia Bay may still get hit with the storm, but it will take longer than a week.
That would probably be the biggest relief/ horrifying thing for Max. Realizing that Chloe can live, but also that no matter what the town is fucked.
That would really spur her to try to convince people of what was coming, but I don't know if she would be able to if she was on autopilot for a whole week.
So fucking disappointing how episode 4 suddenly looked so great and then just went to total shit again in episode 5. Almost all the conversations just had the characters on those shitty stilted loops again with barely any expression.
I really hope they talk about it honestly some day.
SAIL AWAY WHERE NO BALL AND CHAIN CAN KEEP FROM THE ROARING WAVES!
TOGETHER UNDIVIDED BUT FOREVER WE'LL BE FREE!
That doesn't really make sense, I figured the fact that Rachel has a blue feather in her hair plus the fact that the first blue jay you see in the game gets killed basically served as a hint that Rachel was dead.
I can't think of any other characters it would seem to have an obvious connection with like that.
Yeah. Aside from Chloe, since the Blujay also has to be saved multiple times. But Chloe is pretty explicitly linked with the butterfly by the end of it, and no one likes a spirit animal hog.
Well the spirit animals do seem to be related to the totems in some way, though it's not something I know jack shit about.
Maybe it actually could represent Chloe as well since you do have the option to save both of them or let them die.
Anyone know if they are going to be uploading the streams somewhere? Not sure I want to watch them live, but I would like to be able to go through them to see all the dev's comments about the game.
Don't know if I'm remembering wrong, but the first thing Max says if you choose Bay is 'I don't want to do this!' isn't it?
I'll freely admit I'm a baefag, and I'll freely admit that breaking the 4th wall probably isn't an appropriate way to do it. But nonetheless I feel like I could fudge the idea that since you, the player, make the choice for Max, bayfags forced her to do what she didn't want to do.
I think that's grasping at straws. Obviously Max didn't want Chloe to die, but she realized why it happening would be a smaller loss than an entire town and a chunk of the inhabitants. It wasn't like if you picked that option Max would be enthusiastic about it.
There's other reasons to say that letting the storm hit the town was a better choice, besides the one you mentioned.
>I'll freely admit I'm a baefag
I've asked this before but why are we using the terms baefag and bayfag? That makes it sound like we're fans of the endings in the same sense that we are of Chloe or Kate.
Yes, I know. Generally when people say I don't want to do this, the implication is that there is a silent 'but I have to' that isn't being spoken.
I wasn't being serious, just thought of it and kind of liked the idea.
Saving Chloe is still a choice you get and it's a choice I'm partial to, regardless of the ending cutscene. So baefag, in my mind, denotes that I'd save Chloe no matter what.
It's indicative of the choice you would make, not whether or not you like the endings.
best lis bug, floating doobie
also why is everyone calling the music in this game good. music was fucking weak. it was all just some shitty mellow acoustic guitar bullshit. at least play a different tune once in a while
In that case then I guess I'm a "bayfag". I fucking loathe that the entire game gets retconned out of existence but the story never convinced me that Chloe is actually worth more than the combined lives of everyone in Arcadia Bay.
Seen in the attached image: Chloe Price being full of shit.
The second Max showed any dominance, Chloe wouldn't know what to do and would just lay there watching in disbelief.
So let's say you build explosives for the military as a profession. One day, you find yourself in a dilemma where a man has a gun to your significant other's head and a detonator in the other. Off in the near distance, there is a bus lined with explosives and full of people. You cannot prove that you created those explosives, but the man tries guilt tripping you into believing that you're the most responsible person for putting those people in danger. The man says you either choose to let him shoot the person you love, or he sets off the bomb in 4 hours. The bus's doors are wide open, and the people onboard have complete knowledge of the situation you are in.
Bayfag logic says that you should let the man kill your loved one, even though there is no proof that anyone on the bus will die and even less proof that you are the one that indirectly put them in harms way at the time you need to make the decision.
Bayfags are literal psychopaths.
Treasure everything that was good from the previous four episodes (and any of the scattered good moments in Polarized) and disregard the finale. To this day I refuse to acknowledge Mass Effect 3's finale and anything involving the Catalyst or the Leviathans as canonical. If the writers don't treat the fanbase or the lore and themes of the game with any respect then why the hell should I owe them any respect?
>the story never convinced me that Chloe is actually worth more than the combined lives of everyone in Arcadia Bay.
measuring lives against each other is impossible anyway, so your reasoning is pretty retarded.
Max has always truly been the dominant one in their relationship, anyway. Chloe dances around things because of her fear of getting hurt, but Max is more direct. She initiates both kisses and has always put her foot down when Chloe might get a bit carried away, and Chloe always follows Max's words.
They had 4 hours to find shelter :) So the ones that died deserved it because they were dumb af.
can someone explain to me what the point was for max gaining her powers?
so she can fall in love with chloe and be forced to let her die instead of just letting her die in the first place?
>Chloe and Max making out as usual. It is probably the 12th time today.
>Chloe is too much of a pussy to make the first move per usual.
>"I double dare you to fuck me"
>Max rolls her eyes. She is so sick of this date shit
>Removes Chloe's panties with one swift motion
>Chloe is frozen, waiting...
>Max takes off the remainder of her clothes
>Spreads Chloe's legs
>Chloe mumbling about a dare to scissor her
>Max ignores it
>Max pins Chloe to the bed despite her small stature
>Both cum instantly exactly when Max wants
>"...I d-double dare you to love me forever."
>"I double dare you to shut up."
>"...of course I will."
>Cuddle until dawn naked under sheets
I decided pretty early when Chloe started talking about her feelings of abandonment and acting out and getting into trouble for attention etc. . . I felt a lot of sympathy for her, even though she was a pain in the ass, and I decided I would make Max be a good friend and always be there for her to help her overcome her teen angst.
So in the end when she does overcome all of that - hell, I saw a spoiled little shit who had no respect for anybody, double parking in handicapped spaces, not sharing weed, blaming her problems on Max, and she completely transforms into this wonderful human being who shows so much respect and consideration for everyone that she's even willing to lay down her own life for the sake of others. I just honestly felt she was so beautiful in that moment and Max had really come through for her, and there's just no way I could let that go. It's a rotten choice, because of course everyone else deserved to live as well, but I just couldn't sacrifice what Chloe and Max had built together.
it's obviously to fall in love with chloe and then run away with her at the end
What are you talking about? Letting her die? The game ended when the both of them went to San Francisco to look at her everyday hero's contest picture. :)
That image assumes that there was no mistake whatsoever with the text messages. Remember that Vortex party that Rachel went to. The way the game emphasised it made it sound like that was where she disappeared. Yet that contradicted other dates from her missing posters.
But anyway if they were still there after three hours that doesn't indicate to me that they were just dumb. I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that there was something barring them from finding an easy exit. It's not that hard to believe with cars and trains flying around.
how could rachel overdose if there is one picture of her in the dark room where she is fully awake and glaring at the camera?
and did nathan pose beside her in the dirt when he buried her?
>It's a rotten choice, because of course everyone else deserved to live as well
You chose to have Max save her loved one from a certain death instead of giving her up for a bunch of strangers that unlike Chloe had a genuine chance of survival. Protecting our loved ones is a natural, selfish human behavior, and it was and always will be the right choice for this game.
He also has no talent.
He can do anything he wants with his victims, and all his work is of just of them sitting or laying.
I bet that hack needs them unconscious because he can't direct his models to save his life.
Only a poor photog blames his models for fucking up his shot.
>I bet that hack needs them unconscious because he can't direct his models to save his life.
Pretty much. Shit, during Max's shoot he goes on about how models are the most natural and open in that state, but then yells at her for not posing the way he wants her to. Well which is it, dude, do you want it natural or directed?
That's why I like that the photo they use of Jefferson in the Newspaper was when he was younger. Because he's a fucking wash-up that nobody cares about anymore other than teenage girls. They didn't use a recent picture because nobody would know him.
And what's even better is as his ass rots in prison, he will be hearing how Max excels as a photographer and artist.
I remember when I thought that red haired girl would turn out to be Chloe after a timeskip in the ending.
I mean, I can still headcanon it (But I love Chloe's blue hair too much). That was so much more optimistic than the actual endings.
>instead of giving her up for a bunch of strangers that unlike Chloe had a genuine chance of survival.
The problem is that those strangers were placed in the position they were in as a result of Max's actions. This whole "chance of survival" thing reeks of victim blaming. We have no idea if the tornado (which we know for a fact was created by supernatural means) conforms to real world logic in regards to damage. If it was able to uproot trees and smash a boat into a lighthouse miles away then it's not that hard to believe that a magic tornado could actually kill more than a couple of nameless NPCs.
>Jefferson in prison
>Just got back from getting raped in the shower
>Hit cell only has a few of his older photos on the wall and clippings highlighting his glory from a bygone era
>He's sitting on his bed
>Guard steps up and says he has a package
>Jefferson opens it
>It's this pic
>And what's even better is as his ass rots in prison, he will be hearing how Max excels as a photographer and artist.
Yeah but he'll probably be all "mm, yes, my star pupil," and take credit for it in his own mind.
I said it before and I'll say it again.
He's a faggy pretty boy artiste. His biggest worry will be not being used as a prison pussy, or getting shanked for being a chomo.
He can't join any gang there either. The Aryan Brotherhood might put out a hit on him for killing white girls.
>The problem is that those strangers were placed in the position they were in as a result of Max's actions.
That is never said explicitly at any point during the game. We are being pressed to assume it, but the Prescotts knew too much about the storm to make any logically thinking person believe it was Max's doing.
>If it was able to uproot trees and smash a boat into a lighthouse miles away then it's not that hard to believe that a magic tornado could actually kill more than a couple of nameless NPCs.
Trees and light fiberglass boats can be lifted by fucking EF1's. Just about every structure in AB is still intact or even standing, most of the telephone poles are simply leaned over, and there are cars right on the beachline that are still on the road. If they wanted to portray that this tornado was powerful, they couldn't have missed the mark any more.
Just remember Arcadia Bay supposedly had numerous shelters courtesy of the Prescotts. Probably from the early Cold War when it was feared Soviet bombers/ missiles would be hitting the West Coast.