Today's the day
>What is Heroes of the Storm?
An Aeon of Strife Styled Fortress Assault Game Going On Two Sides developed by Blizzard Entertainment.
>What makes Heroes of the Storm different from other already known and popular MOBAs?
Matches last 15-25 minutes, Item system replaced with Talents, focus on objectives and team fights.
>where do I find you meme-loving faggots
>What hero should I buy?
Find the ones you enjoy playing and buy those. Don't buy cheap heroes just to get into Hero League, it's not worth rushing into.
>FAQ | Tips & Tricks - Check before posting questions.
>Links nobody visits anyway
Official Site: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/
Free Hero Rotation: http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/free-hero-rotation
Hero Rankings and Statistics: https://www.hotslogs.com/Default
Talent Calculator: http://www.heroesnexus.com/talent-calculator
Steam Group: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/HotSG
Old Thread: >>121347624
>I just dig around places like deviantart and boogle images and save whatever looks funny
Always a good thing. I loved going through their contest entries.
I was actually going to draw something for it
>Dude lol how do I use a sniper rifle
Also that Li Li.
has anyone made a reaction image of this Li Li?
It's too cute.
She'll just drop lasers from the sky and completely miss as usual.
so what are the new maps
I love this piece so much.
Anyway, what do you guys want from the HOTS panel? Any type of new features?
post more terrible art
D2 is forbidden and was made by fucking losers.
I wonder what their reactions would be to Leoric and Arthas
Atleast there is plenty of lili posting today
haunted mines and infernal shrines reworks
map votes/map selection queues/something at all
buffs and debuffs added back to the UI for fucks sake
talent tree reworks for half the hero pool
Nothing wrong with that.
That will be dope too because summonmancer is my shit. I remember them talking about wanting to include him eventually. He better have a literal skelly army though not a tiny bitch crew or a ten second ult.
still can't believe jay wilson said that after releasing the most disappointing game of all time
7 is already nearly too much with such a small roster
no reason to buy anything aside from for HL
it's almost certainly for MM purposes. maybe they figured out customer satisfaction really does matter
Why the chicken stick?
Everytime I look for Li Li fan art the sites return lily or chun li or other shit no matter what I do with putting quotes around "Li Li" or using + or "lili" or -lily
Make sure to bring a lot of poison resist potions.
Why does Naz look pregnant.
And why is Murky so smug?
everyone loves li lis jugs so much she can never go dragon
I just went through the dA HOTS contest entries.
Murky gon murk dat panda.
I don't know why, but these multiperson fights being drawn makes me happy. It just seems so ambitious, even when they are still crap at art, this is what they want to draw.
Maybe I'll draw some phenomenally bad artwork.
>mfw spider adria, malthael, and the moth bitch who half-assedly killed cain will be added before andariel, duriel, mephisto, or baal
>mfw lazarus and warlord of blood will never be added
I've done nothing but dragon talents Li Li a few times. I tend to do that if we have a dedicated healer and I just want to use winds to fuck up auto attackers.
the surrounding in the linked picture is actually fairly good, so are the skulls. but the faces though.
no generic model for Li Li
Placeholder Li Li is cute. I bet she had that stupid "Oh herro!" pandaren voice.
>Yuuup, just me, your boi Uther.
Also Arthas using two Ultimates. Fucking OP please nerf Riot.
>Sonya the Hambarian
So what's your favorite skins, /hotsg/?
I like Mecha Tassadar, Anubis Tassadar, Master Tasssadar, Spectre Nova, Marshal Raynor, Warmaster Chen, Festival LiLi, Master Li Li, Johanna's 2nd skin color, Leoric's white Master
Red Sonja Sonya skin when?
What Overwatch heroes do you think should be skins?
Soldier 76 as a Raynor skin
Roadhog as a Stitches skin
Trobjorn as a Muradin skin
Zenyatta as a Kharazim skin
Widowmaker as a Nova skin
Last 2 as long as Zenyatta/Widowmaker are still in
that's how I feel Sonya works
>if people let me hit them, they're dead
>if I get focused or slowed I can't do shit
I'd literally rather get stunned than slowed as Sonya, because most of the time you're getting stunned when you're already balls deep anyway instead of getting slowed and kited like a chump
holy shit I'm dying from laughing.
>guy on my friends list does a vs. AI with me for the daily
>on beginner AI difficulty
>wants to split push
Just took him off my friends list now that he's offline. Shaking my head at him, to be honest, family.
Why is every nova retarded?
I just played a game vs a team with a medic and a nova on ours. Nova kept trying to kill the butcher, who obviously just killed her because nova can't fucking kill a butcher solo, especially not with the non-decoy build. She never, ever, not even once, attacked the medic. Even if the medic and the butcher were together, she went at the butcher.
What convinces retards who have absolutely no idea about target priority to play a hero who is all about that?
It's not even that. It's more like a CoD clone with overpowered cooldown skills.
I say CoD clone vs TF2 clone because CoD gameplay is all about "see first, kill first" while TF2 is actually about moving around to avoid fire. Damage values in Overwatch are insanely high, if you catch someone who didn't see you at first you'd have to miss a LOT to not kill him first. That's exactly what made TF2 good, outside of snipers and demomans there were very little scenarios where you'd just get gibbed without being able to turn it around.
More like "it's an old man who owns a multi billion dollar company, he's been in the business too long to openly shittalk a competitors product"
Same reason you see every sony representative talk positively about microsoft and vice versa.
I actually used to play TF2 semi-competitively (yes that was a thing, still is I think) with a bunch of other people. They all say overwatch sucks dick, and none of them expected anything else.
Quit fucking talking about blunderwatch you faggots
Give me ONE good reason this badass green mother fucker isnt the best hero in the game?
artanis is such a shitty hero
>has an ability that takes him out of the battle until he dashes back
>has an ability to switch places with a hero, so that now that hero can focus the support and now artanis is body blocked by all the other enemies
>gain a shield at low health because you're a retard and don't know when to retreat so the hero holds your hand
>4 second blind ult(lili has a better blind, and it's not even an ult), or a shitty laser that only kills retards
tired of playing with shitters that pick this guy
Blind is good against AA heavy heroes, I give you that. But the current high level Thrall meta is to build heavy into chain lightning to get sustain and poke. If youre against a team with no lockdown or blinds you can go WF and just rape everything, but the opportunity is rare. Ive found going the chain lightning build vs blind is totally viable. If you get blinded, step back and poke and try to land a firefox. The time it takes you to CL + fox the blind will be off and you can go back in. You are right that blind is a hard counter to him though, but it doesnt put him in a hopeless situation like it does raynor or other heavy AA heroes.
I actually don't know, he's my favorite assassin by far.
I'm willing to bet the people who say the hero is shit follow some weird chain lightning build that makes zero sense. I see that so often, people giving up seasoned marksman for fucking chain lightning mana. I don't get it. Going full windfury + marksman + manatide, you will never have mana problems and you have insane burst. At level 20, a single windfury does 2000+ damage, you heal for shittons during it, and it has a short CD.
Without burst? You joking? The overpower combo with thrall can drop 4k+ damage at level 20. in about 4 seconds. Any stun into firefox is enough time to burst down any non-super tank warrior, ive done it hundreds of times. My buddy plays tyrande a lot and if he lands a stun on someone late game, they are 100% dead. By the time his stun has worn off im already in their face and they are locked down by firefox. Its a guaranteed kill on almost anyone. If you think thrall has no burst youve never played against a good one. Id put him in top 10 best burst heroes easy.
>youve never played against a good one
That is incredibly likely, check out the top heroesfire build for him, which is what most shitters follow. It's some weird chain lightning envenom shit.
Full windfury gets countered by blinds and stuns. CL build allows you to get follow through which gives you huge burst potential and tons of great poke. The level 1 talent is purely for the range not the mana. You cant heal if you cant land autos, WF is very easily countered and isnt useful against many team comps.
typo'd. Meant to say follow through not overpower.
Yeah, and if you look at top hotsdog data youll find the chain lightning + follow through build is the most used and most successful. WF CAN be better but only against very specific team comps that will just allow you to yolo in and AA all day which doesnt happen often. If the enemy team has good stuns or blinds WF build is super useless.
500+ damage chain lightning with full screen range that jumps to 5 targets is somehow chip damage? You even can use it twice, and each stack has a very short cooldown.; Ive literally 100-0'd squishy mages like jaina and kael with ONLY chain lightning pokes over a 15~ sec battle. Its far from useless, even if it is "chip damage"
>guy highlights leoric/sonya
>i ask, can you play them? I'll gladly do it
>no i'm good
>takes all life leech talents or leap and an assortment of shit on sonya
>totally overlooks the fact that its killing squishy AND jumping to 4 other targets
>thinks an ability has to be extremely overpowered to be good, and that a solid, useful ability isnt good because its not OP
stay bronze shitter
How is that not burst? You catch someone in CC, and use the follow through combo to deal massive damage in a tiny window, "bursting" them down to 0 hp. You didnt say "has no ranged, safe burst", you just said he didnt have burst in general, which isnt true.
>be level 20
>artanis casts laser on you and proceeds to auto attack you
>tfw what is dead may never die
>"lets get that CL going lads, I'll zap em from afar"
>kael and jaina kill your entire team while you're first silenced, then stunned, then killed by butcher or some shitter
>"I d-did what I c-can g-guys, right??"
Thrall counters illidan easy. I 1v1 him all the time. Just wait for his doidge to wear off and firefox him, then just burst him down during the root. Easy peasy.
>implying Im not gonna sunder their entire team away from the healer and dive in right behind my warrior as soon as he engages
Chain lightning is used for poking before/after an engagement, and for procing follow through while your in melee range. You dont stand around in the back line using CL instead of fighting.
>die because enemies aren't braindead
>die because your team is too fucked to help you
also, I've never lost a 1vs1 against Thrall as Illidan. but then again, I'm not playing in the rank 40s where people just let you do that :^)
The playstyle is 100% gay though, and if you just grow some balls, and learn when to engage, windfury is much much better.
I'm not sure why you're playing a melee assassin if you're scared as FUCK of just going in and would rather do some weird build where you shit out 300 damage every 5 seconds.
Just play with your team, learn when it's safe to go in. You get blinded? Use your chain lighting. You get stunned? You fucked up by running into a stun. Play with your team, learn to position well so they're forced to blow shit on your tank rather than you. Sometimes you do get focused, and then you can either try to outheal it with your windfury and a wolf on creeps and some lightning, or you just speed the fuck out of there. As a thrall you're only an initiator in the sense that sundering is super good at splitting their team up if you get a good angle.
CL builds are a crutch for people who don't know when to engage and would rather sit behind their team and shit out a small nuke every other while. It's wasted on thrall, because
1. other heroes do that better
2. thrall can actually be tanky as fuck with his selfheal, so you're effectively putting yourself, a hero that isn't THAT squishy, behind the squishies of your team simply because you don't ever wanna get targetted.
Why discuss Thrall when Butcher is an improved version of him?
Really though, I'm tired of Blizzard following Riot's design process of new heroes supplanting old ones because of more advanced kits.
Despite your ridiculous hyperbole, I do agree with your sentiment.
WF build is theoretically better. I agree 100% that if youre not being focused or blinded, that WF build is just 100% better than the CL build in every way. My only argument is that the CL build is more well rounded and safe, something that is a big benefit when solo queuing HL.
You missed the part about "when youre not auto attacking, youre dying" when using the WF build. You cant self heal while blinded since you rely on your AA's for most of your self healing. You keep making false assumptions that the CL build just sits back and throws CL from the back line, which isnt what it does at all. You still dive in and engage with your warrior, the play style is mostly the same as the WF build, its just that you dont instantly die when youre stunned or blinded. With the CL build, your CL hits 5 targets which is a full round of your self heal ticks in one ability, AND it has two charges, meaning your constantly self healing. Id argue your JUST as tanky with the CL build as you are with the WF build. You are using your CL in melee to proc follow through during your burst combo, so its always bouncing around healing you. Also, int he CL build you can grab spell shield, which is a HUGE defensive bonus. WF cant get spell shield which makes you much squishier.
Anyways, im enjoying the discussion, keep it going.
Nah id say hes more of a tier 3 hero that has some redeeming qualities, and if your good enough to exploit those without getting punished for his glaring weaknesses you can dominate games completely by yourself.
No one is arguing, just having some good discussion. Imainly brought up thrall because I have done it in the past and it always starts a nice big discussion about him. Everyone was in here circle jerking about blunder watch and I wanted to steer the conversation back to actually talking about the game, and from the look of things I was successful.
Youre forced to stand still to deal damage, which is a huge weakness. Especially compared to other heroes that can out-DPS him WHILE stutter steping and moving around avoiding skill shots.
In QM, you regularly end up with no tanks or an Abathur or something and end up having no means of positioning yourself properly. Sure, you do need to be able to autoattack, for sure, but being able to get some heal off of a
Chain Lightning while running either in or
out can be very useful.
And honestly, it is 2 fucking talents, it isn't exactly killing your build. Seasoned Marksman is shit since the nerf and you won't find time to gather stacks on certain maps.
Im the guy in this thread arguing for thrall right now and ive never said anything like that. I just spurred some thrall talk to steer the thread away for talking about other games. Anyone who says thrall is better than a hero above tier 3 is just wrong, and hes my main with a 70% win rate.
Overkill is a spell, not an autoattack, meaning your passive isnt being used while using overkill. WHich means any talents you take to boost your AA damage doesnt work while using overkill.
The point is that you can either take a build path that lets you be a standing autoattack turret (which is really situational and CAN be good) that only uses overkill to chase or you take a build path ignores auto attacking and you'll be using overkill for damage only, since it has good mobility.
Tychus is actually a really cool hero. I'm not sure why everyone always moans about his trait. Yes, it's not good if you're not going AA build. Yes, overkill can decrease your DPS if you're going AA build and use it at the wrong time.
Why is that bad? It makes him a bit harder to play, but not worse. Yes, his stutter step is shit because he attacks so fast, but what's your point? why does every single ranged assassin have to stutterstep and AA chase?
Im not a thycus player, but ive seen the complaints and ill try to lay it out for you in a way that makes sense:
Right now, tychus' trait makes his AA go faster and faster the more you use it. The only way to use his AA is to stand still. Since it happens so fast, you cant stutter step like other ranged heroes. Other ranged heroes stutter step during the brief cool down on your AA. Since the CD on tychus' AA is so tiny, theres no time to stutter step between shots. This means that any time you spend stepping is time you COULD have been AAing. So this is one major issue with his kit, he cant perform SIMPLE mechanical stuff that other ranged assassins can, putting him at a disadvantage.
The next major issue, is that overkill is a spell, not a auto attack. This means that if you go for a full AA build, all of those talents are wasted while you are channeling it. Since his AA requires you to stand still, the only way to take advantage of his AA talents is to stand still and get hit by AoE. Another problem is that while channeling overkill, his talent is doing nothing, making it completely useless.
the fact that your "burst" takes long enough to be easily interrupted/moved away from shows it really isnt burst
there's a good reason why good players build around lightning and spend most of their time dancing around poking with it
>making it completely useless.
No, it just doesn't work during overkill.
Look at it this way.
Overkill = autoattack damage while moving.
AA = autoattack damage while standing still, with the potential to be HUGE damage if you get the talents for it.
Tychus just isn't a hero where you faceroll all the damage skills you have. If you go AA build, you don't use overkill at all in some engagements. It's a conscious choice you need to make. Mobility vs damage.
Im literally in this thread arguing for the CL build you just mentioned. Dancing around poking with CL looking for a good opportunity to dive in is exactly the best way to play thrall against a team with good CC. I agree with you completely. The CL build also has amazing burst, especially when in melee range. Luckily, theres plenty of CC in this game that gives you the opportunity to get in close and blow someone up. Sundering into firefox is enough CC time to almost burst down anyone purely by yourself.
I dont play tychus, so theres no point is arguing with me, im just echoing the statements ive seen really good tychus players have said about his kit.
Look at it this way, if he actually was a good hero like you are saying, wouldnt his win rate and competitive pick rate be higher? the fact that hes never picked and has a shitty win rate shows the complaints are invalid.
>raynor is a superior pick to tychus 100% of the time
Nah. Have fun against blinds.
Oh I'm not saying he's 100% fine, he's certainly outperformed by a lot of other assassins, I'm just saying there's no reason to streamline his kit. Buff it, sure. But not streamlining it. His AA talents don't have to work during overkill, and he doesn't need stutterstepping thanks to overkill. That's what makes him unique, and it'd suck if you took it away from him as a form of a buff.
yep I agree 100%. I feel like if you play smart you can mostly circumvent a lot of them, and the CL build helps you still be useful against team comps that traditionally would fuck his shit up.
So, what're Tracer's abilities going to be?
Will they just copypaste her skills from Overwatch and come up with some OC stuff to make up for a skill slot or two?
I have a feeling it will be valla-esqe.
She'll have a dash that is essentially a better version of vault, maybe the time warp ability to teleport backwards in time, shell have a grenade that explodes after a bit of time like zeratul and do a lot of dps.
Why, do you feel like hes representing you well?
Q: Good goy - Charges $1.99 to all battle.net accounts of all heroes in range
W: Can't fail - Kill target hero because Tracer, like overwatch, isn't condemned to failure!
E: Evade Criticism: Deflect damage like how overwatch deflects criticsm that its a TF2 ripoff
Heroic 1: Preorder: Win the game and pay $20 for the overwatch expansion
Heroic 2: I m literally too lazy to keep doing this: something gay
So i tried that remote control hero and he seems weak as piss. I basically had only some crappy weak attacks and a some piss weak shield, i mean how is that hero anything but burden when other much better hero can take its spot?
you're not gonna use Overkill unless you 1. are chasing a half-dead hero to get the kill or 2. need to secure an escape. if you use Overkill in any situation that isn't 1 or 2, you are wasting it.
learn to play ;^)
This gon be gud
what other heroes from starcraft could they add? the universe is pretty limited in notable characters and having another generic unit hero like hammer or morales would be fucking boring
cho'gall is so fucking stupid this is fucking stupid
lol epic 2 players 1 heroes so funney xDDd this wont be a stupid gimmick at all that ruins the game XDDD
>erid doods moaning and groaning on stage again
...Why does it have to?
I don't get this complaint. Illidans trait doesn't give lifesteal for damage dealt by abilities either. Why does overkill have to benefit from tychus trait? It's an AA trait and tychus can't AA during overkill.
Same goes for the complaint that his AA talents don't work during overkill. So? Why would he need to? he doesn't autoattack during it.
>Lunara instead of Cenarius
>2 player hero. I gotta play with some fuck just to play as Cho'gall
I'm seriously about to cry. This is horrible. How can they fuck something so simple up? I really like this game and they are ruining it with this shit.
WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR POINT? WHY DOES IT MATTER IF HIS TRAIT DOESN'T WORK DURING OVERKILL? WHY DOES IT HAVE TO?
overkill is his stutterstep, it's even better than stutterstep.
I sure hope you'll be able to buy him normally. Man, I'd hate having to suck up to some guy who thinks he's a celeb because he has chogall
You can move at full speed during it
>Cho'gall, Abathur, Gazlowe, Medic.
Think of the stories.
>not imagining Enchantress' thick flank pressing up against you before she pins you to the wall, grinding her slavering doe cunt against your crotch as her moans grow in volume, almost reaching orgasm just from the sensation of her womanhood rubbing against the growing bulge in your jeans. Your pants are almost drenched in her secretions before you finally get them off, finally plunging into her sensual folds as she pants, begging for more. Her powerful hind legs do most of the work, thrusting against you again and again. The musky scent of her pheromones fills the air, arousing you further as her lust reaches an almost feral state. She screams, desperate for release, as your savage mating reaches a peak. Finally, she slams against you one last time, taking you to the hilt, your member touching her most intimate inner reaches. Her upper body tenses up, fully enraptured by orgasm, but her pussy clenches around your dick, rippling, as you, too, reach your apex. She milks every drop of cum out of your rod, for what seems like an eternity. Finally, you both collapse, exhausted. Covered in sweat, fluids, and smelling of bestial sex, she leans in to your ear and whispers,
Cho’gall is a unique two-headed Hero for two players. Each head is controlled by a single player and has its own set of abilities. The Cho head controls Cho’gall’s movement; wherever Cho goes, Gall follows. When Cho and Gall stop arguing and work together, they can set up powerful combos. If you or your friend owns Cho’gall, you’ll both select a head then queue up to terrorize the Nexus together!
Also I don't understand how it's going to work
Can you only play it if you party up? Or the game will have to find someone queuing with the other head and match him with you?
And how could it possibly work in hero league? If you are soloing and pick it but nobody else wants to play it what the fuck is going to happen?
>Not even WC3 or WoW characters get into the game
KEK. What are they doing, this game is supposed to be based on the heroes we know and love. If I wanted generic shit i'd go play Dota 2.
Genn Greymane is one of the best faction leaders, you imbecile
>tfw Greymane and Tracer are the two heroes coming out of Blizzard you want more than anything they announced.
What a sad day, but hey at least this skin looks great.
How the fuck will he work in hero league? Will I have to beg someone to play it with me? What if i'm last pick? Then I can't play Cho'gall? Is Cho'gall even going to be a legit hero or just some dumb shit for quick meme? What the hell happens if one head DC's?
>>tfw Greymane and Tracer are the two heroes coming out of Blizzard you want more than anything they announced.
Is this english?
>Playable Headless Horseman deconfirmed
A disappointment, really.
At least Greymane looks cool, when he is not in his fursona.
Honestly they all didn't look bad. Cho'Gall is really gimmicky which hurts him, but the Dyrad and Greymane looked interesting. Just not what I wanted.
So, Lunara is based on the original Dryad model and gameplay from WC3 that was eventually turned into Enchantress in DOTA, right?
Are they seriously going to make HOTS versions of every WC3 unit that was in DOTA? Is that the goal? There are other franchises in HOTS.
What's the point?
I love shitty stupid gimmicks and I have a friend that plays HOTS so I'm super excited for Cho'gall even if he is trash.
Anyone else feel that way? Does anyone buy every dumb gimmick character like Rexxar, Murky, Abathur, etc.?
But are larger than WC3. If we were getting Alexstraza or something, I could see that.
We already have loads of characters based on Warcraft 3 units. I know WC3 was the pinnacle of the franchise but taking every single unit's gameplay to make characters seems ridiculously stupid.
Especially since nostalgia fans of the original DOTS don't typically play HOTS as their MOBA of choice.