Playing this game edition
Adds new content, breaks old content, buffs and nerfs items.
Patch notes never
Azazel nerf is BUGGED, supposedly.
>What does "item" do?
>What's that HUD that people are using?
>What is "thing" on the post-it note?
Top row: Mom's Heart/It Lives, Isaac, Boss Rush
Middle row: Satan, ???, The Lamb
Bottom row: Mega Satan, Greed Mode, Hush
>What is Hush/Blue Womb?
New boss in a new area that opens when you beat Mom's Heart before the 30th minute.
>How to unlock The Lost?
Please note that the seeds are from Rebirth, and don't work in Afterbirth anymore.
1. Isaac must die to a Mulliboom in one of the Basement floors. Mulliboom seed: FHRD S1N1 (Go into the large room above the starting room. You can easily die from full health in here to them.) Or if not: JTMD EZPF (one is directly below - Normal difficulty)
2. Magdalene must die to her own bomb in one of the Caves floors. (Pyro Seed: ALFA 0NTZ)
3. Judas must die to Mom's Foot as Judas in one of the Depths or Necropolis floors. Good Seed: 8LDE 8XDX (Wait on using the Joker till the 3rd floor and avoid the devil rooms and you'll get the sacred heart. You also get the Sad Onion on the first floor.
4. Azazel must die to Satan in Sheol (his blood/laser form or hooves, NOT leeches or The Fallen). You must NOT use a seed.
>Get Lil' Brim from Cambion Conception
>Get Lil' Brimstone from a devil deal
>it's a "Little Horn kills himself by running into his own bomb" run
Is there any way to get to 999 greed cents WITHOUT hating my fucking life? Its trickled down to one cent per time and the greed fight still take like three minutes everytime i do it, its draining my life force as we speak
If anyone wants a good seed for unlocking the lost, here. DY34XDSX
Capricorn in the frist treasure room, two black hearts in the spike room. Mullibooms in the room to the left. Lots of bomb drops for Maggy, take no devil deals as the angel room has a halo. Open the gold chest in caves 1 as crickets head will be there. 20/20 in depths 1.
>Discover the Soul in the treasure rooms immediately before the Hush
The daily challenges are shit because it's just a generic run (usually) where they loaded a random seed, loaded a random character, and slapped the words Daily Challenge on it.
>Mondays are Hardcore days
>Monday challenge is Azazel with mediocre items pre-nerf.
>Sunday and Wednesday? challenges were both Lost runs.
Fucking seriously, these are just awful. I got sub 500 yesterday on a Maggy run and I fucking suck at this game.
Edmund doesnt know how to balance anything, they thought they needed to nerf him so they literally just chopped his damage and tears in half.
Dont worry, they'll "fix" it with the next spoopy time gate
Is it even worth taking this as his brimstone feels shitty.
don't feel bad, I managed to lose this suicide kings run with the fucking mom's knife
When Edmund asked what
We know we are still missing like 30 items but they added a loki baby in this patch.
Do you think we will see a third loki item and a transformation?
I got that but now should I swap it for the scythe?
EDMUND DOESN'T DO THE BALANCING, HE DOESN'T FUCKING WORK WITH THIS SHIT
IF YOU'RE GOING TO CALL ANYONE OUT FOR THIS DUMB BULLSHIT, AT LEAST CALL OUT THE CORRECT ASSHOLES
What was the cause of losing a majority of my completed Ending Icons for my characters? I did all of the Lost shit in Hard mode, but Dark Room and Chest Icon aren't there or in black/red.
Maybe, but considering the rest of the transformations( especiallly that fucking wizz one jesus christ) im not too excited about
I mean like the cthulu one looks cool, but it just makes you fly and you probably already could considering lord of the pit and spirit of the night were both transformation items.
They definitely went for quantity over quality with them
Yea I kinda figured that but how the fuck am i supposed to know who that is, you seem very upset friend.
I mean, he probably oversaw it or at least approved it. Dont get too rustled over simple mistakes brother
It's a spike visual bug.
If you're playing in a spike room with buttons, and the spikes go up and down, the spikes all go down when the final button is pushed.
That's not Bob's Brains.
Nobody seems to realize that this is fucking Nicalis developing the game.
The jackasses that ruined Cave Story, mind you.
They're so fucking incompetent that it came as a shock that, when Rebirth launched and it had little to no major problems, it was a fucking shock.
Here's a transformation that gives you permanent The Wiz, though.
if there is new content i usually leave it on and check from time to time while i get through it myself, other than that as far as i have seen most of them are pretty bad with some exceptions
I did it.
And it only took the strongest run I've ever had and a World card.
First item room Magic Mush, first boss item Pentagram. Tech X, Holy Mantle, Sacred Heart.
Fuck this challenge.
Friendly reminder to eat your steak slowly one bite at a time
>Tfw my Zodiac sign is the worst one
I think it's pretty clear they got some more content gated now
Azazel is still destroyed and you need him to unlock lilith you'd thought they'd patch it fast enough but they're waiting for something big prolly finishing Keeper...
Just got "the Golden Horseshoe".. Anyone know what it does? I mean it says it came out in rebirth and no wikis say anything, so I guess it does nothing?
>Pay To Play
>Literally the first room I check has a Two of Diamonds
>I Rule challenge
Oh my God
What is this feeling?
Could it be...
No, impossible, the Great Steak Awakening banned all fun long ago.
>Start nerfing shit a whole year after it got released for no reason
>doing retard wrangler
>blocking shots and killing shit like a champ
>"har har those little bitches were blowing the difficulty out of proportion"
>realization hits metaphorically as well as literally
Apologies to everyone who complained about it.
>playing as Eve
>get Dark Bum
And to think this broken little fucker was nerfed
Please someone help me. I hate this fucking shit. I've played isaac rebirth on a cracked version by "R.G. Mechanics", and i can't find the savedata ANYWHERE. I looked for them in every fucking folder of my pc and i can't manage to find them. The game still loads my savegame tho, so i think they must be somewhere. Any idea? I actually bought the game via steam with the afterbirth dlc, but i don't want to lose my savegame. Please help
Unless you have anything that gives you any form of extra life, use Alt F4 Exploit. It's how I managed to kill Hush. Somehow, extra life-giving items prevent Alt F4 Exploit.
Dead Cat and Guppy's Collar are also the reasons, along with Number One, why I died and couldn't savescum a Dark Room Mom's Knife Book of Shadows Run and unlock The Soul. Atleast I managed to take out Stan.
And never EVER get Number One with Mom's Knife. It reduces your range to horrific levels.
usually guaranteed you to at least GET you to the chest, now its not as amazing but still A+ defensive item, also its literally impossible to lose when you have little chad as well
you have good taste in video games and a mediocre taste in jokes but I like you anyway anon
not him, but BRAINS! and SPEED are the only places where you should use that exploit
I only use the exploit with The Lost. Any other character can atleast TAKE a single hit.
the alt-f4 exploit only works on your last life
anon meant before rebirth. lucky foot used to have the effect that phd does now and cain was pretty good because of it.
No. Seeds disable unlocks, except for a few of the joke seeds.
I know the pain, I use the Task Manager close method. Greed Mode was a nightmare, but I did it with 20/20 Bomb tears.
Just discovered that samson fucks everything even better than azazaz before nerf.
yea but that doesnt matter now that he has the lockpick, pretty good starting item to have. Also starting with a key means that a golden chest on the first floor could get you a first floor Theres Options
His speed and damage are decent and his rate of fire is great. Hes always been my go to if im not tryharding with isaac
First for pregnant demons
>Your waifu is a baby factory
Weird, I tried in on my last life, but when I did continue and the screen went dark with the white icon in the middle, I heard a squelching sound, like I took damage. Then the game loads and it just shows me dying. So that's why I think the lives ruined the Alt F4 for that run.
>Task Manager close method
I don't know if pausing the game during the death sequence actually STOPS it
What I do after every few room clears and when I get desperate for survival, I pause the game when safe in an empty room, Exit Game to main menu, check the time the save has (game saves this way, and also after you use D4? Not tested it specifically, but I suspect it), Continue, check the game time to see if they're the same, then keep going.
It's a lot like spamming savestates in Kaizo Mario World. Same thing here; I only do it out of necessity, and ONLY with The Lost. Never done Alt F4 Exploit with any other character. And I'm not planning to; that's a slippery slope right there.
>Blood Donation Machine randomly kills me with tons of hearts left
>Maggy is a slut who's had at least SEVEN DEMONS in her before
>Eve is the literal whore of babylon
>Lilith shits out demon babies 24/7
What now, Waifufags?
>above average damage
>above average chance to find drops
>new lucky penny system further exemplifies the desire to get penny drops
>fastest out of all vanilla characters
>guarantees second floor item room
>can unlock the ability to get the paper clip from the start, thus being able to open EVERY golden chest and gain even more drops
Cain is in the new top 3, anon, just above Judas, just below Eden
OK that's good to know, will try that next time.
So I pause, then Alt F4? Or pause and Task Manager End Process? Does Alt F4 only work if you're unpaused?
And again, I suspect certain shit, like picking up items or using the D4, makes the game save it, even if you Alt F4 or End Process. Need to test that sometime.
>that feel when you realize mom's knife isn't a good idea against the Hush.
Run ruined. :(
Got a similar bug with spikes twice.
>got 6 red hearts and 1 black heart
>walk on spike
>lose all red hearts
I keep seeing this.
Why is Eden considered top tier? Just curious.
That makes it less stressful then, thanks. So I just have to be careful NOT to press Exit Game in the pause menu during death sequence, or it spawns me in as I die again. got it.
And I think I figured it out, hitting 0 coins must kill me. I was getting low due to overspending at the shop so I thought donating would help, but you drop coins when you get hurt
Atleast you HAD Mom's Knife against Hush. Pic related plus Ipecac and Wiz is what I had to go up against him.
Infestation 2 is based as fuck
Most interesting. The fact that you start with 2 random items and random stats makes each run more exciting, also you can luck out and get a really fucking good item from the start, or really fucking good stats.
Eden is driven by RNG, whereas Isaac is based on beating the RNG
>edmund nerfs the fuck out of player Brimstone
>made enemy brims even more broken as fuck
This guy seriously has no clue what he's doing, does he? Should've just left the whole broken shit in and thrown in even more instead of this pathetic attempt at "balancing."
Well, she comes with an active and a passive no matter what, something a lot of half the characters dont have, statistically theres a better chance of you having a good starting loadout then a bad one, BUT, theres always that chance you start with fucking isaac's heart and two spirit hearts. and her stats usually suck balls because they can put it into any of the six which means you usually get low damage and tears with good range and shotspeed.
Overall, shes good -tier, but its hard to tier the random character.
But in terms of fun shes top top tier imo
I think Ed needs to look at this general once, ignoring the steak shitposting, and at least take some of the balancing ideas into account such as new items for old characters
Maybe he just lets Nicalis do all the work
Wait what the fuck I can walk through the wall over here
I don't think you understand the problem is that I had mom's knife.
It's impossible to not get it with it's shitty range if you want to do damage. There is not enough space to dodge between bullets.
I think the fucking worst thing about the Brains challenge is that you can't even hold R to get a good item. Literally the only items that can help you are in the shop, and if they don't show up, or you don't have the money, you just fucking lose.
At least it circumvented a bullshit room
Walking out of bounds teleports you back into the middle of the room if anyone was curious
So this is the third time I defeat it lives or moms heart within 30 minutes, like the wiki said to. Why the fuck doesnt blue womb appear for me?
its not that hard to get them though, bff shows up pretty commonly and both of the candles arent that rare either, also, does mr mega/ other bomb effects work with bobs brain? i don think they do but im no 100% sure
Not sure if anyone really knows, seems that almost everyone coming into the dlc met the requirements so it might be tough for the people who arent as far in the game as a whole.
Just looked it up and couldnt find anything sorry bro, just keep on isaac'ing for now youll get it eventually
>when you forget about Cambion Conception and suddenly a Dark Bum, Lil Brim, or Succubus just appears out of nowhere
It's the best feeling. It's like the exact opposite of real life pregnancy.
I've always wondered because I see it a lot in /d2g/ especially but what drives you to shitpost in the general of a game you don't even play?
It just confuses me because surely you play SOMETHING and it makes far more sense to shitpost in that general. Is it just because it's new and/or popular or is there some kind of deep seated grudge you bear against the game/company/someone in particular?
Yeah, OK. But what helps most is having orbitals that block shots.
Get 3 pretty flies or something, and you can just ignore Hush's shots outright. In the one full hour of tries it took me to take down Hush with The Lost, with the setup I had, only ONE death was as a result of a bullet getting past the pretty flies. That should give you an idea of how good orbitals are against a boss like Hush that has consistent bullet patterns. Dunno about Mega Stan Phase 2.
Do NOT do what I did and pick up Number One. It fucked with me so much in the Dark Room.
I thought it would reduce charge time on the Knife, not also reduce my range to shit. It and the lives negating Alt F4 ruined me. That's another thing, items like Dead Cat Guppy's Collar Ankh that give you more lives prevent the Alt F4 from working. You continue, but the game brings you back to the room, taking damage, instead of starting normally.
Bait them into your bombs, they rush you upon line of sight. Keep your distance, dodge at 45 degree angles so they don't spot you again when they finish rushing. And careful not to bounce them towards your sides with your shots. Positioning.
I managed to survive thanks to bombs but now I've got this to deal with, considering I'm doing blue womb run.
Because you love it, we all do were all just too scared too admit it. but forreal tho its actually a good item if you dont forget you have it
That feeling when you take like 5 digletts with is just, fuck man....
Remember: Esc when you die, then Alt F4, wait a few secs for process to end after game closes, then right click Steam, click Binding of Isaac: Rebirth, go to Continue, and it should work.
I always Exit Game to main menu, check if the time it has on the note on the left matches the time in the game. Exiting and Continuing via pause menu and main menu sorta "save" the game. Picking up pedestal items and using D4 I suspect also apply a "save".
>THIS FUCKING BOSS CONFIGURATION
JUST JUST JUST JUST
F U C K
M Y S H I T U P
>doing onan's streak
>haven't unlocked the cathedral yet
>complete utero II
have I been trolled
about to tear mega satan a thousand new assholes
True touhou starts here.
How do you think I've gotten this far with so much bullshit rooms in the first place? I don't feel guilty at all, fuck this lost bullshit you can spend an hour trying your best and die in the end to some bullshit you can't even dodge.
>play greed mode
>get two bombs in the curse room
>open up the super secret
>Halo on the pedestal
>notice the door is not there
>attempt to blow it open
shoulda known about that, its intentional, goes along with the greedmode story. Every greed in the game is just an issac that died in a secret room, thats why greed is on the picture of the moon card. Sucks to suck bitchboyyyy
I only cheesed the lost boss rush but I'm definitely cheesing all his new achievements. Fuck the lost it's a 0/10 character and having to hold R for 20 minutes to get a dead cat or a holy mantle makes him complete garbage when you die 2 rooms later to some bullshit.
Just tell me how the hell did it take you so much time to reach mom's heart with the daily run.
I even had time to do boss rush...
>mgsv is unfinished on purpose, we feel the phantom pain!
I'm all for fair challenge but lost is neither challenging or fun. You have to be lucky as shit to get good items and then continue to be lucky not to get hit by stupid crap. Instead of improving characters by making them more viable and fun we're getting the opposite.
I play slow as fuck too, i know that i could do boss rush but i just feel like I do a lot better if i take my time and do everything i possibly can on that floor, most of the time lost is just backtracking
that's really what it came down for to me. I don't have the time to hold R for an hour, finally get a dead cat. then get shit items only to have to reset by floor 4 and do it all again. Then when I finally get a good run die to some complete bullshit. Fuck that noise. I don't know what edwardo was thinking with this shit. If I actually care about doing lost runs I'll do them after I unlock everything.
somebody didn't see the greed mode ending then, its literally what happens when you get trapped in the secret room. Theres a lot of jewwy shit going on in this game but that aint one of em
Thats what its supposed to be, unfair and annoying as shit, i dont play him cause idgaf about real platinum god and dont wanna lose my goddamn mid, but hey, if you do go right ahead,
BoI newfag here. Just got the game with dlc, I beat moms heart three times (with Isaac and Lazarus), but somehow I can't progress after it. I'm afraid of using the wiki because of possible spoilers. Can some anon tell me wat do in order to go further?
Also I see lot of bitching because of current meta/nerfs/bugs. Was Afterbirth better in terms of fun and non-bugged gameplay?
>mfw remembering back when I thought Gurdy and the Widow was the hardest shit ever
Man, I sucked at Isaac.
I know that feel anon. Gurdy used to push my butthole in in the original. Actually almost all bosses slapped my shit at one point. Now the only thing remotely challenging to me is Hush. Feels good to git gud.
>make a bunch of unique challenges
>mom's knife nullifies almost all of them
i suppose i can't complain since some challenges tend to be total bullshit without it but it seems pointless to have challenges that can be completely circumvented with a devil deal.
>doing Guardian Retard Wrangler challenge
>get to it lives
>little fucker immediately walks forward into the heart and stays right in the middle
Cool, fair challenge.
blue baby used to be the challenge character of the original. Now the lost fills that role so he's just a mediocre-mostly shitty character. He's not that bad though if you're good since red hearts are for faggots anyway. Only downside is it's harder to buy devil deals if you get unlucky with drops.
also he's shit for greed mode.
If you enter a seed, the game should be exactly the same, no matter what, unless there's a variable that changes depending on how you play (devil deals, special items, boss rush/hush)
Anything else is fucking retarded.
>that new secret room full of chests and items and shit
i'm pretty glad the buffed the super secret room finally. It was annoying how they almost always contained a single black heart, a bunch of red hearts or pills. wasn't even worth it.
Nice. Now you don't have to worry about finding that thing ever again.
Normal, Hard and Greed handle the seeds differently. You'll get different items for each of these modes if you use the same seed.
Yeah I know how bullshit rare it is.
Jokes on me, I forgot what the Pit Demon item did and completely fucked up the run. Whatever the one Satan item is that changes all your hearts to Sin Hearts
True, but that's because the inherent mechanics of each 3 changes between the modes. It's a change to the variables which mean the game will be different
tfw I've found black lotus several times in my time playing
maggy is my least favorite character besides the lost (and the currently bugged az). She's just so fucking boring and unfun and every time I play her I never get damage up items, only more and more health.
>tfw Thunder Thighs appears as Maggy
Sometimes, you just have to commit
Permanent R U A WIZARD effect
Not entirely accurate
The Wiz basically gives you 20/20 shot, but angles the tears like R U A Wizard
It's an important distinction because your tears aren't firing once per-eye like the pill, so your damage isn't neuetered
Just had a run that kept giving me small pills and minions, look how fucking tiny I am!
they're considered drops and not rewards. so actually humble bundel works and contract not. i think this is also the reason you cant pick up humble from the greed shop normally.
ALL OF THE CHALLENGES DONE, BABY
>have to wait for them to buff azazel in order to win against hush
>have to wait until I get gud to beat hush with the lost
>then I have to beat mega stan with every character
>and grind 999 coins in greed mode
god damn it why does this game lack fun unlocks
I did this the other day. My hope was that the coins would actually be a random amount of coins which could be more than 5. I was wrong. I actually did it twice to be sure.
For real though was this just to make shops worse or some shit? I can't think of any possible scenario other than having a credit card or a jera this might actually be good.
if you use the chaos card on the lump himself does it actually kill him. I know it's only supposed to kill phases but does that entire part count as a phase? Or is like phase one when he's on the north part of the room, phase 2 in the middle, phase 3 wandering etc.
As soons as he spawns after killing the blue baby you can one shot him with the chaos card. Did it twice, but not with Lost sadly.
You won't lose anything, but you will get things you should not have unlocked yet.
>>laser pillars faster than you
But anon, that's why Wooden Spoon, the Belt, and Caffeine Pill always spawn to give you a boost!
Checkout Mister 5 days ago over here.
I swear that I play worse when I use Isaac
>lower chance of special (aka good) items
>reroll things like health/speed ups for damage items typically resulting in getting hit more later on
>wander every room trying to reroll items
>pass on decent items to reroll them into better items but they end up rolling into something worse
tends to be better when i just leave my destiny up to fate.
>take marked and cursed eye
>constant superhigh firerate
Can someone test this on a character that takes damage?
I want to know if it makes you teleport.
Seed is J4CV NMCH.
Cursed Eye is in the secret room of Caves 1, left of the shop.
Do I take either of these.
And which item do I take for the left and right rooms
You fuckos arent helping
>enemies attacks sped up
wow that's sort of difficult
>16 minute time limit to Mom's Heart
>2 minute floor max
God damn that's ridiculous. I guess it's time to get gud
>OP still using the old seeds for unlocking the lost
at first i was like "oh shit this is going to be tough"
and then i remembered I can just hold R until I get an OP item on floor 1 and fly through the content. It's more of a battle against RNG than anything. getting a good starting item and then hoping you don't get fucked on picking dead ends.
alright is this all I need in order to put 999 coins into the greed machine?
>tfw I beat speed! without any really OP items
It's always like that, wait for the next patch.
Remember when they fucked up the charge time when moving from a room to another ? Brimstone, monstro's lung, anything with a long charge time was unplayable.
>always get 9 lives now
>never see the other guppy parts
I'm sure once I start doing lost shit i'll never see 9 lives again. Also besides being a guppy item 9 lives is a turd item. Beating bosses with 1 red heart is pretty tough.
It seems you clicked the wrong tab.
Now we're getting into real degeneracy
Poly didn't carry me, crickets body didn't carry me, Judas shadow with kitten didn't carry me.
But fucking familiars + lil brim and sac dagger carried me.
Now i know why speedrunners love this guy.
>tfw that transformation which stops you seeing Lilith's baby bump anymore
Why even live
>tfw in Turkish "ecran" also means screen
People are complaining that he was nerfed at all.
emud has confirmed some nerfing was intentional, and people will whine about that too.
I prefer to just not play him, and I'm not the one whining.
don't get me wrong az could catch a nerf but I also didn't have a problem with how he was before since he was basically the games easy-mode character and it was really useful for certain things like farming angel room items or whatever.
That being said his current state is unplayably bad, if he doesn't get buffed back up at least to some degree it's going to be frustrating as fuck getting his achievos.
I might artfag in a minute if the thread's still up
I try to take as little head-changing, body-changing items as possible per run and play with the Demon Beggars. Harder than it looks because of Nicalis' shitty art covering her
not the guy you are replying to but the nerf was intentional, they just fucked it up.
apparently they nerfed the charge time AND the times brimstone hits. Brimstone and pre-nerf brimstone used to hit 13 times, this is not true for azazel anymore.
this is what I think, they wanted to reduce damage or something without modifying the base multipliers so they nerfed the laser instead. they will probably keep the long charge time and reduce his damage multiplier but they definitely should fix brimstone because that's what really cripples the character.
>box o babbies duplicates daddy longlegs
Who are these people who keep saying Lilith is shit tier?
oh my fucking god; how am i meant to do this legitimately? there are rooms in the womb now with the spinning eyeballs protected by layers of those harmless tentacles, just to make them take longer to kill. i feel like some of these new enemies/rooms are just harder in general, but some of them are goddamn anti-lost.
>I might artfag in a minute if the thread's still up
This isnt /v/. You have all the time in the world
Kneejerkers who thought that Edmund might reverse the nerf if they complained hard enough about the charge change.
It's barely changed anything, really. Lilith is still one of the better
and more funcharacters.
>tfw only seen the Chaos Card like twice in 200 hours of gameplay
It took me one hour with the exploit, Anon. You can do it, I believe in you. (Not pictured, Ipecac)
Is there any point to picking up Curse of the Tower if you don't have Pyromaniac or any other effect that gives you immunity to explosions?
>Already have shit damage
>Pick up Curse of the Tower for shit and giggles
>Kill myself on Headless Horseman
filthy casuals, all of you
hold strong, brother
no shit, but i'm not enough of a jerk to talk down about not exploiting if i actually do it myself. i understand that any degree of trust is really just blind faith on the internet.
>Decide to finally get my lost notes done
>First item room is Mom's Knife
Got him to 40% that's the best I've gotten so far. Stupid transcending bullet from above got me. I was trying to get to the top left corner but it was too late. I won't give up.
VICTORY IS MINE
no exploit bullshit but I admit it was a strong build anyway (dead cat, holy mantle, ipecac and soy milk)
you can have infinite redos, hope it isn't patched out
Have fun with your good build. My build if mediocre at best. Damage is utter shit and regular tears. Nothing to help me to avoid projectiles or to kill swarms of flies and monsters. Also having 4:3 resolution doesnt help. I just died to epic tears because I didn't see he used that attack.
grats, anon; i was only able to do it with dead cat/full guppy, tractor beam, ridiculously high tear rate, and a full suite of orbitals. it takes getting pretty lucky, but the victory is so much sweeter when it's been properly earned
Oh, you didn't take any damage and didn't accept devil deals? Great job! Here, take these locked chests that give out consumables? Oh, you don't like it? How about some spirit hearts behind key locks?
omg now angels rooms give you white chest.
omg those chest also respawn.
omg you can get items from those.
OMG WHY THE HELL I SHOULD SPEND KEYS ON THIS CRAP IF I DONT HAVE SACKBOY?
Heaven or hell
Note, I also have brimstone
I did the thing
>tfw art skills are subpar, decent at best
Practice makes perfect, I guess
>it gives you a familiar delorean
>now upon death you have 33 % chance to get teleported back to the first floor ( no items no score )
>you also have 33 % chance to get teleported to the begining of your actual floor
> 33 % chance to get teleported to the chest / dark room
>Not lard with thunder thighs
Nice art anyway
>mfw something as simple as Mom's Lipstick completely overrides Lilith's hair and blindfold
>did Mega Satan as the Lost before the expansion
>tfw no credit for it
Btw, how do you even kill Hush as the Lost without a Gnawed Leaf combo? Since he scales with damage I can't imagine me efter taking him down without getting hit atleast once.
Chill, thighs are hard to draw like that. Also they're all technically Isaac so are you surprised? I'm gonna get to drawing another in a minute
Somebody needs to edit this as ???
>walk into room
>immediately get blown up by tnt my ludovico set off
nice one smegmund
But I have both
Now I'm even more conflicted
>tfw spiders suddenly jumps halfway across the screen at mach 7 and kills you
I know it's coming, but I always fuck up anyway
It's so annoying with the D4 tho, because you want to have enough good items to beat the womb, and you also need to reroll so that you can get a specific Hush-killing combo that works.
You can't reroll into a Gnawed Lef combo right away, because then you won't beat It Lives in under 30 minutes, but you don't wanna risk going into the blue womb with a "good but not good enoug" build either.