/ssg/ - Soccer Spirits General #86
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Well, last season, I made it to Champ's League and the majority of teams were SS when I was in high diamond. However, they were not too far off from being SSS, so they might as well be. They were maybe two or three superbs from being SSS at that point, so it's not much difference.
Not when I'm less than 100 Dstones away from getting Beth and running the legendary cancerous Meta/Beth like I always dreamed of even BEFORE I came to ssg and learned that everyone thought of it as pure cancer.
I'm almost there.
Sammy / Jeunese / Ravian
Khirel / Meta / Beth
Silk / Nerua / Magnus / Verister
Pray for my fallen cancer ridden soul.
>implying Lukia will ever get a turn
Just kidding. Lukia is bretty cool. I have her with 3 superbs sitting in my box. I'll cheer for her to get an EE just for you, although I think Thunder may not get any more love any time soon.
How do I improve my midline, /ssg/? I'm having a hard time finding a suitable replacement for KaiD, and Aslan is literally paper.
He carried me to diamond and everyone tells me to replace him. The problem is I can't find someone that fills his role.
mspu KaiD with EC is penetrating/stealing for 2k+ with a violent attack proc. I'm almost tempted to just ST him and leave him as a mainstay on my team.
The problem is neither Kaidormu nor Aslan are actually midline candidates.
You need a proper attacker in there. At the very least, you need to get rid of Kaidormu. Hope for VBird or Khirel if your luck is insane. You can keep Aslan there to act as a totem and try to load her with as many Reflex stones as possible.
>tfw a whole bunch of "Post Hidden" due to my filter in a row
That's a lot of NI HIYEEL CHINGIANDA / IM IN LOVE WITH THE(den)KOKO spam going on.
I seriously doubt they'll give her EE ever, after the blunder where they had to recall her.
The thread was created at the time our autistic shitposter is most active, what do you expect?
>VBird or Khirel
At that point my problem would then be getting reflex fucked when I have the ball, and being unable to steal the ball back when they start with it.
I have a ST'd 1spu VBird and he just gets wrecked. I can prevent the reflexfuckery by putting him in backline with Anael, Yuri, and Nerua but that won't improve my midline.
I hope they notice it soon, since this level of spam is keeping the thread on the first page, so it should be easily visible.
I wonder if a mod could find it in their heart to simply auto ban any usage of the word Denko(ko). It's exclusively used in this thread and 100% of the time is used to spam and not contribute anything overall to the thread.
Even Reason shitposting is more agreeable than this shit, and that makes me feel pretty bad.
I didn't keep track, but I only used free stam saved up from stam mails and Gerold actives.
But I also only finished her off that time, I had her partway done from previous times she was here.
So Jury and Leah are canonically the HEALTHiest girls right?
Nothing more of a turn on than a girl who knows how to eat and it all goes into all the right places.
>Good job lolicons
I did nothing though
I'd be fucking pissed if Sammy gets a non Snowball skin
>DeIVkoko nerd things he's avoided my filter with these weird as symbols
Believe me, after your first avoid attempt, I've caught every single possible combination. Muh forum experience goes untainted.
I seriously wish there was I could request commissions from Snowball. There's so many players I want to see get the Snowball treatment. I would pay for that shit since I have nothing better to do with my money.
das it mane
You can calm yourself afterwards with this qt turtle miko Snowball
Maybe the shitposter is a mod himself.
>snowball confirmed sammy fag
It all makes sense
>The voice of Khirel, Hiro, Avnore, Kalkrish, Jeunese, Xiao Long, (old) Lucian, Jacob
wud da fug? this nerd? he's got a hell of a fucking voice range between Khirel and Hiro.
Rerolled 45 times and got Khirel.
Created more accounts to max out my referrals and got pic related.
>Voice actress of Anael, Leah, Ravian
And a qt too.
>Voice Actress of
Sexy Saramir, Confident Guinevere, Genki Lia and Jury AND Soothing Mira. God damn, that talent.
>Players having their health reduced to zero may now cause them to get injured and suffer a penalty ranging from missing the next game to losing a superb
>GP, gold, crystal and draw rates increase to compensate
What would change in the metagame?
Would Black Ivy's stones necessarily be the same as Anael's stones? I would assume Ivy really needs a light or dark action speed stone to activate black trick.
Benched: EE - Lia, Hildegard, Yuri, Jheet
1st evo - Kiki, Veronica
>Voice Actress of
Well, he's really
___qt, and his utility isn't bad once you have some investment in him, from what I've seen.
Depends on if you want to go for esports or not and your team I think.
Lucius can be good for PvE if you can get him some health on attack/crit stones + WoM for sustain I think.
Really that's all a good pve attacker needs is sustain and a way to keep atb up to keep attacking. He has superplay and good stone slots to make this possible, and his utility will help you deal with active blocks from the gk.
As for pvp, an attacker is not necessary like all these fucks claim it is. That entirely depends on what you have access to in terms of units.
people say use an attacker because you'll need one if you want to break through any half decent frontline, and leaders have a tendency to pass when their hp drops below 80 or 70%
Could someone tell me how much AS a fast scuttle cycle gives at +15? I have a +15 5* because it had really good secondaries but im not sure if I will need to replace it at some point or not
Alright so with Nerua recall, I'm wondering what kind of team could be the best with the current players.
My legendaries are Baltheon, Shu & William.
Is there even hope at this point?
I'm losing the will to play so hard...
Oops, I mixed up my S&Ms.
>Baltheon, Shu & William
Did he actually respond to you with any actual discussion?
>Did he actually respond to you with any actual discussion?
I don't really remember having any meaningful discussions because he just focused on drawing for the most part
Only that he'll only do professional work with companies and he'll never do private commissions
>just because BB said they dont doesnt mean they are competent enough to actually do it.
What kind of blasphemy are you implying?
If this shit game would stop giving me Connection Lost I could test it
I am not going to test dmg but at least both buffs appear
Why the hell last time I said I had got a +15 pass stone people said I would never get an Ermaltion then? ffs, /ssg/ literally made me waste more 600k
this shit is explained in game, its your fault for not bothering to look, that said you arent guaranteed to get a specific stone, just a unique of the stone element in the center
Don't make fun of me just because I am miupi
Anyway here it the legendary stone.
>100 damage from breaking the floor 37 wall
>I've had 3-4 champ matches past floor 20 this run
I can almost taste the 100 crystal club.
I just need to grind out some gold to upgrade stones a little bit more and I'll make it I think.
I hate appchan sometimes, or 90% of the time
I don't know what to believe in anymore or what I should do.
>Blade with a SHoT and not Terranox
>worth a damn
I'm using a blade with SHoT and she's pretty much reached her peak, and currently scrounging for a Terranox but I keep getting ICs Im never going to use
>Bought twice stones with DS stone
>Never bought legendary
>Both stones were: WoM and EBM
Honestly, I think it was better than a legendary. It would be so useless for months to me as I would need to gather 5* littre.
>>needing months to gather a few littres
few 5*, 3* are pretty shit to get. And I normally manage per 2 weeks to scout one 3* littre yet my team is still fucked lacking superbs.
And yes, I always do those achievements that give littre.
>wanted Chitose during her rate up
>1.2k crystals and nothing
>mainly wanted Renee but also wanted Chitose during their rate up
>got the shit reindeer, a faggot and Chitose
still waiting for Renee's next rate up
Sillia ace or not its rare that there will actually be enough Damage reduction on the line to actually justify using Glabaris, SHoT will be a better choice almost 100% of the time.
and for that matter, Ice Core>Glabaris simply because of the additional action bar
Does anyone know if I should get kevin? I have a milky way on my bench and I heard that they work well together
I've been wanting to try out her as a CM candidate since her spirit gen sounds interesting. But they would both have no investments compared to my (2)victoria/(5)jury/(4)v-bird midline.
Just want to give a shout out to one of the unsung heroes of this game.
Trones you're my nigga.
Sure there are better players out there but you know what? Trones is putting in work defending my backline carrying the ball to the top while sucking blood and gaining his HP back. Yeah there will be a day i'll get someone better but i really like his kit.
Anyone else have favorites that helped you get to where you are now that arent obviously endgame players?
Honestly his 100% crit damage isn't even that good compared to other strikers because he has godawful penetration. If he had a blue stone slot it would help tremendously but chances of that happening are pretty much 0.
The problem is that William is pretty much outperformed by sharr who is both more damaging and more consistent due to extreme. There's no reason to use William over Sharr as his utility just isnt going to cut it
nerf sharr enough to be not shit but lower than William
I dont think thats the problem though, its BT and Isillia, they get a ton of CR so players who rely on crits have a much harder time
It would be okay for him to do retarded damage though.
Leventor does it. Meta-beth continues to exist. That obviously means there's absolutely no reason for william to not be a broken piece of shit as well.
You're implying that BB has ANY idea what they're doing when it comes to balance. I pretty certain at this point nobody on the development team has played their own game in months.
I want to believe!
Floor 37 robin lived with 67 hp after I set up everything perfectly on my team the best I can set it up currently.
What would increase my damage most out of these stones to get over that hump?
Current stones I can upgrade that will improve damage:
+12 receiving pass
+14 crit damage
+12 red pass
+13 red pass
I would just finish upgrading them, but I don't have a lot of gold right now.
the bestest of bros, I still use him too
Yeah but he had a shitty sharr who did 300 damage to Isillias in platinum. His backline was anael, bell, serestia, BT and I forgot his GK. The only thing good was his midline duke, meta, and beth but they got fucked by jury mid.
and it was vgVerz who lost
never understood why the lingerie in E though
She's not the greatest but she put in the work for me since day one
Nia and Valkia were clutch early too.
Forgot the pic even though probably everyone knows the card by default.
I regret using her as ST material back then. Even then, I don't really need Lynia since I already have Mikael already
plus attacker AIs are a pain in the ass to deal with in arena
Now to wait for Jury week to roll in so I can finally complete the midline I dreamed of
Other notable units I have are Shoe, Mikael, Lynia, Nikita, Anael, Sammy, Black Ivy, Miho and Jewnose.
The team is alright in arena but super league is wrecking me.
only thing wrong with jin is that sharr is running rampant, but that's what happens when there's only 2 or 3 viable gks split between 2 elements and something comes around that eats them alive.
Only thing wrong with Jin is that he's hardly better than BT/Isillia and he's god damn legendary.
No need to reroll for Jin when you can scout Isillia. Whatever can kill Isillia can also kill Jin.
this better turn into an EBM later on
Why do you want to waste a good stone for a meh stone?
Objective, true and fair season 1 legendary tier list:
Valkyrja Beth - The best colo unit, absolutely essential for 00:00 floor clears, useful also in PvP, has unique abilities, can use WoM effectively
Shu - Second best colo unit, great for sustaining, can use WoM effectively
Metatron - Generally the best PvP CM, also useful in back or top in colo in some cases
Baltheon - A must for maximising damage in colo, however, no ardor slot and no action bar regen makes him less useful for PvP
Bell - Good totems, shits out a lot of damage for a leader, can use WoM effectively
Leventor - Despite not being a good choice for colo, he's one of the best PvP strikers because of Isillia
Khirel - Best teamwide stat-increasing passive, though a liability
Jin - Countering him is far too easy, has always been shit in PvE and has also been declining in PvP use the past few months
William - Not much point in him when Sharr exists. If you want to rape anything non-Light, use Sharr, if you want to rape Isillia, use Leventor.
Duke - Literally why does he even exist anymore
he's only good for colo so he's great tier, he's better than Beth cause of his heal in colo
I know you're just shitposting but do people actually believe this?
Does anyone know where the 'reflex is capped at 60%' thing comes from?
I'm seeing 50% cap and counterattack resist applies BEFORE the 50% cap. So you could have 99% CAR and you could still hit the 50% cap if the reflex diff is large enough.
In an absolute end game team, Beth is more useful because it will result in faster clears and therefore higher score. In an ideal setup, Shu should not be in it, though sometimes it's necessary.
Apart from Speed (primary stat) affecting Reflex, no. Reflex calc should already be known from back when people figured out prmary stats.
reflex = ((((5 + TEC) + (SPD/ 12)) / 4) / ((60+ 30)))
No, that's doesn't even sound like what was already thought to be right by the average person here. Where did you get THAT from?
The good news is that 100% is still indeed 100% chance for reflex steals to not happen.
Can you elaborate further on how it works? My brain can't process it for some reason.
I always thought that a Khirel with Yuri+Nerua+Dark AS stone = 88% CAR, meaning that if he penetrates the enemy can only steal the ball 7.2% of the time. So the actual chance of him getting CA'd is much higher than that?
>240% isn't a lot
It actually is anon. It's a hell of a lot.
Unless you aren't accounting for crit reducing totems. Even then I still question what the fuck you're doing to get 240 with sharr and only tera as the crit stone. Lucid has way more natural crit, extreme II, better stones for crit rate and they have the same crit rates on active (though lucid should take 3 on it so a difference of 37 if she doesn't active)
5/5/3/5 without any crit totems
with that much crit damage i'd rather stack crit than put points into pulverize
I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying. Shu and Beth have different purposes in colo, and the amount of use that both of them see in colo is usually tied with the amount of progress the player has made in the game.
For example, you use Shu when you actually need to sustain and keep your GK alive - in an ideal situation, the ball shouldn't even be going to your backline, it should be going from mid to front and then a OHKO or a shot > counterattack > second shot.
When you have a striker which can OHKO, then Beth ends up being the best colo unit for you. The two common mid Beth formations are:
>Jeunese/Kevin - IC Luka/Nari - WoM Beth
Nari/Luka starts at 100% AB at 00:00, pass to Beth, Beth active, Beth penetrate, if she doesn't pen then she'll get another chance at 00:24. Now your front is almost 100% AB - this is what Shu can't do.
>Jeunese/Kevin - IC Sammy - WoM Beth
Sammy starts at 100% AB at 00:00, pass to Beth, Beth active, Beth penetrate (not through though), Sammy uses active. This is what you'd maybe do on the fucked up thunder colo floors because even with the massive DR Beth, she still gets returned a lot of damage when attacking.
As I already said, Baltheon isn't too great in PvP despite being legendary. For colo though, he's the best option for when you want to OHKO the floor - there's simply no other assist which can match him.
and I hit reply without finishing. Lucid with much higher crit stats doesn't tend to reach 200 while shooting with her standard stone build. You could go light crit or WoM if you get it for another bit more, and WoM with the stacking crit but even then she tends to top out at 200 if you don't give her totems or pair her with nari or something.
Then most backlines have at least overwhelming or an equivalent now. Hell I fought a zibroi team with a backline that brought my lucid to 0 before she shot. I was impressed
The calculation says:
(Your reflex - their reflex)/1000 * (1 - CAR)
For a Khirel with 88% CAR, an enemy with 4k higher reflex would still be stealing with 48% chance, 2k higher with 24% chance. 1k higher with 12% chance.
Basically, people thought 88% CAR would AT MOST offer (12% of 60% cap = 7.2% chance) which sounds great but it actually isn't.
It means that CAR reduction is applied before counter attack cap.
IE, if the reflex difference is big enough to reach a theoretical 1000% chance to counter attack, that get reduced by 88% to 120%, since that is over the CA cap, the cap is then applied, making it 50 or 60%, depending on which one is the actual cap.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
~12% chance to get CA'd isn't that bad I guess if the enemy has 1k more reflex than Khirel but now it makes sense when it feels like my Khirel gets CA'd way more than 7.2% of the time in colo.
I'm a bit tempted to bench him now but his totem is just too fucking good to pass up.
u wot m8? First you say
>90% from her active + extreme and the rest from Nari active + Elaine pass
Then you say
>easy 240% with just teranox
That's not easy at all and you can't guarantee that that sequence of events will occur.
For me it is
Milky gets me full spirit in 2hitd + a pass or 3 hits
IC Elaine -> IC Nari -> Sharr, it works just as I want it to, there's only some times where it won't work but whatever, that's rare
Adding on, the one with the lowest health is the only one who'll enter the reflex fight in case of 1:2 or 1:3 attacks.
Basically the GK him/herself will never reflex steal when an attacker penetrates into GK + defense. Which my experience says is very true.
Angela's stat at level 50 with no superb.
>dat vitality stat
I'm cracking up here, Lucian is actually better than her because of that absolutely trash HP pool.
>my Kevin has higher vit
This is pretty sad
They're making up for the vast majority of the legends being fucking dudes.
Edward should have been a girl. All the superb bosses should be girls.
Plus when it comes to bosses ardor is the undisputed waifu element.
You don't decide to go mono WW unless you have one of those...
Ardor (mono) will remain weak, for as long as Sharr remain strong.
Ardor have a fairly good front line. Elaine is an excellent totem. Renee/Nari are good passers.
>You don't decide to go mono WW unless you have one of those
Because i like the wind element.
Just kek my shit up senpai.
Renee with Ignition is already better than Baltheon simply by not being a god damn snail. Less pass power isn't a big deal when you can actually get a pass off without having the entire enemy backline anael rape you.
Newfaggot here, why do they do that anyways? Why are there some out of place Ardor players like Fuse Ro and (AFAIK) Angela belonging more to Thunder and Renee damn well belonging to Dark?
Also, I got Jheet and I'm not the sort to have a huge hard-on for characters based on design or go full waifufag. Should I stick with raising Lucius as my attacker for my Ardor/Dark team or switch him out for Jheet and shift the mid towards a Dark setup?
Renee and Balth both pass crit damage, which is the big difference between them and other passers.
Even without Ignition and using Prey Sentence on Renee instead, she is still hell of a lot faster due to higher base AS and 25% AS self buff.
Baltheon AS buff when?
Faggot element has plenty of girls, it just also has not-Sasuke and the only person trappier than Dochi...and Shu the guy who can't possibly be straight...and Sage, who they had to fucking genderswap to compensate for the Free! appeal.
Alright, can't really defend that. Outside of Ardor having plenty of girls, even if most of them are shit-tier stat and viability-wise.
That's why I said meh to putting IC on her. I'd rather have Prey's for the spirit regen/triple pass stone into Sharr combo, or EBM for max damage output.
He doesn't need anymore than he already has, fuck off.
No, every legend should have one problem so they're not broken like fucking beth/meta
Dark has shit tier girls (not including Alice or some 3*s) so they're the fagfot element
Ardor has all cute girls and even cute boys
>No, every legend should have one problem so they're not broken like fucking beth/meta
There are multitude of ways of implementing this.
You can change one of his skills to improve pass and one to improve reflex/AS so you have to choose between his high pass power or speed.
Giving him an ardor stone slot for IC means he can't use Silent Cold, which will drop his pass power by 10-25% depending on whether if you had a IC on the team already before. It will also need another silent cold carrier in the line if you want the 20% crit damage line buff.
I don't know, some Dark girls seem nice, at least from a story point of view. Constance doesn't seem that offensive and Asakura seems cute despite her I AM A SWORD type backstory.
And Metatron's insanity that the game tries to pretend is anything but is endearing in a really weird way, and Niarose is my waifu.
EE WHEN? ;_;
It's just that for every decent one of them, there's a full on whorebag like Alkyde or Verister, or legit shit girl like Marianne.
Seems like Whirlwind and Light has the biggest concentration of waifu material.
What? kill yourself
Her and Alice are the only good dark girls
All the 5*s are sluts minus Kiki and Rudiel
I'd say no cause Nerua gives a constant CR while with B.Ivy you have to get actions off to get them
If you can get her to move multiple times then sure do it, else no
Snowball is reason tier
>All the WW 5*s are slut
Nigga if you're implying butt bunny isn't a slut and that Linmay is I will cut you.
And Marianne is your shitty generic look-cute-but-is-a-total-bitch archetype.
Metatron does her shit better than she does.
>Whirlwind and Light has the biggest concentration of waifu material.
>taking shit from the guy who waifued the mentally underdeveloped and retarded harpy
If we're going that far then I'm going nuclear and saying all WW girls are slut, from Black Tortoise to Meiran.
And that's why you deserve shitty bitches like Marianne, anon.
You do it to yourself thinking on par with the faggots who think yandere bitches are worth it if they're hot. That or you're in love with the idea of bitches treating you like the utter garbage you are.
I don't think Papi is shit-tier, I just don't think she's waifu material. Can't really sexualize immature girls and no matter how old she gets she'll never mature, both body and mind wise.
I'd rather fuck a horse, thanks.
>Seems like Whirlwind and Light has the biggest concentration of waifu material.
I guess, it depends on what you want out of the girls. The main bulk of Dark girls are Succubi, which isnt bad. Lindsey is a masochist goth chick while Grace looks like a slut but is actually 100% waifu material via her story. Or Morgana who is a tsun.
Why would I go after Papi when there's a host of better choices in the main cast alone?
I guess it's not rape when they're too stupid to know about consent or even rape itself.
It's not a meme when I want to maintain long streaks in arena though?
I'm rank 74 atm and am steamrolling everyone I face in arena except for one chinese whale who has metabeth and I'm worried if I gain a lot of levels quickly I'll start facing actual teams.
What time is next free stamina rotation? 2? Was that also affected by the reset time changes?
Out of stamina and crystals and I need gold to upgrade these god damn stones so I can beat floor 37.
25 fucking damage from winning this shit.
What's your setup?
I'm 215 hp away with this.