Overwatch is a first person shooter made by Blizzard. The closed beta is live but you aren't invited.
>Overwatch Game Data Spreadsheet
>list of /vg/ battletags (post yours in the thread if you want to be added to it
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The waifu wars are going to reach levels of legendary autism, aren't they?
>people not getting why they dodged the character question
It's because they haven't decide if they will even add new characters yet. They really wanted to hammer the 21 heroes thing because they might be the only heros. People expected more than nine classes in tf2 too. If these retards asking questions were smart, they would have asked how new maps and skins would be handled.
If this was the case they would've just said 'We aren't sure if we're going to add new heroes, but if we do they will be free to all players.' They didn't say that. They dodged the question because they either don't know if they're gonna sell heroes yet or are sure that they will.
They have to wait for the sale numbers to see if they will continue to support the game. Blizzard themselves don't know if the game will succeed with this retarded business model.
>Not understanding the real issue
He dodged the question about wether or not we would have to pay. If they didn't plan micro transactions he couldve just said "If we make more shit, you won't have to pay for it." it wouldn't be a big deal.
This leads me to believe if they add stuff it will be micro transactions in a fucking $40 game.
They'll all lose to the purity of Mercy
>"There will be no more heroes at launch. At launch its 21 heroes: what you see is what you get." Jeff said. "Whether in the future Overwatch has more heroes is sort of a TBD to us."
>"A lot of this is... there's not like this master plan we know exactly what we want to try. Let's see the health of the game and where it's at. Let's see where the fans are at, and what they want."
>"Are they feeling like, 'now that I have Genji, D.Va, and Mei, I feel overwhelmed and there's too many Heroes... or is it like 'Wow the game's really fun but like it's starting to feel stale, can you guys add something?' We're gonna gauge it from there."
>"There's not going to be a heroes store at launch," Jeff reiterated.
Already preordered for 90 of my Australian dollerydoos, how retarded am I?
I think we're getting sidetracked from the important topic at hand.
No, retard. They're going to add more characters. It's blizzard, how could they not?
You thinking it's "only because they haven't decided if they will even add new characters yet" is only a testament to Jeff's question dodging abilities, it's basic psychology. His wording for multiple touchy questions was carefully scripted. That kind of reasoning is exactly the thing he wants you to think.
"Shit. People are asking actual questions. Quick. Initiate Operation Distraction Retard."
nice try fatties
its just a history, something that will never ever be again, now we have tumblrina instead
>PURCHASING THE GAME WILL GIVE YOU THE FULL CAST OF just the twenty one heroes and the maps (for now)
It's Evolve all over again.
You're not the only one friend
Who else /regret/ here?
>antartic researcher who freezes herself in blocks of ice should wear a tank top and sweats to show off her tits and hips
all shitposting aside Evolve's level of Jewishness was downright impressive.
they basically had 2/3 of the game locked away behind $180 of DLC on day one of release. heroes, monsters, etc. all needed to be bought
>hyperactive british quirky girl
>emotionless french blue girl
>huge stronk russian girl
>smart cyborg indian girl
>kpop mecha korean girl
>sweater cow chinese girl
>duty and honor egyptian girl
>aryan medic swiss girl
I know right? Wheton killed the Mom joke in a way I didn't think people could still do.
I preodered the CE on Amazon, canceled it twenty minutes after tho.
I'm still gud
>No info on future heroes
>No info on future maps
>No info on modding
>No info on mapmaking
>No info on private servers
You haven't betrayed her for the new flavour of the month bitches have you?
reminder that rebbit cried for a single day and got blizzard to give them beta invites.
literally the only shred of saving this game is to spread criticism of blizzard and their shiftiness on reddit, make every interaction they have with the community as uncomfortable as possible. make them cave
>Level 20 with 30 heroes achievement
>An internal currency by the name of Brill Bucks is present in the client.
How are we gonna get to lvl 20 with 30 heroes if you planned on not releasing anymore Kaplan?
Literally blocking achievements behind paywall for those OCD suckers. kek.
Are we getting Neptune Widowmaker as well?
I want to melt that all-business ice queen exterior of hers and get to that gooey warm nougat center I know she has
>CE has soldier 76 statue rather than literally ANY of the girls
what a waste.
Whenever I kill one of the waifus in the game I always imagine my bullets are orgasm inducing chemical darts and their death cries are actually mind wiping orgasms that leave them breathless for the respawn timer. Or orgasm inducing neuron pulses if it's an energy weapon.
Anybody else think like this?
Why is 4chan defending Blizzard more than Reddit?
Hourly reminder the game will have paid for DLC characters
21 heroes in the game currently
data mining shows
>Level 20 with 30 heroes
Do you know where we are senpai?
Because they can just change the current model to that after they get all the money from the people that would've just played F2P but really wanted to play the game so they caved in and bought it.
Reddit has been shitting on Overwatch for ages because they're salty over no beta.
They actually made a megathread and demanded blizzard flag every Reddit account that posted their Btag in it.
Zarya, Mercy, Pharah
D.Va, Tracer, Symmetra
For all you fucking inbred Blizzdrones Twats. How does Blizzard, a huge gaming company that is about to release one of their newest IP's, have the nerve to actually say that 'we have no idea what we want to do with new heroes because we feel 21 heroes is the perfect number :^)' not give off big warning signs?
they purposely dodged the question because they know its not going to be a good look for them if they say new heroes will be behind paywalls. While if they simply stated there wont be any additional paywalls, it would have generated a good amount of goodwill for them from the start.
>closing servers 3 years later
its blizzard theirs no way this will happen, especially since the game is nearly finished the biggest costs are already behind them, even if the game only attracts a small niche audience they'll milk it for all they can for as long as they can
>give us soldier 76 and reaper from this pic
>give us some ugly fucking starcraft like widow costume
for what purpose?
For people complaining about the small beta, it's small because they want to save costs it's that simple. They have enough players to find bugs etc. no need for additional server costs as long as they don't think that it would make them more money.
Yep, Blizzard knows the game is on suicide watch. They will watch over for a while and see how much money they can make. If the answer is nothing because their payment model is shit tier, they pack up half the staff and go make a new game
But that would be a straight up lie, rather than the dodge they gave. Also that would make the community a lot more upset when they do reveal that you have to buy heroes, because people won't care about the "AT THE MOMENT"
Reread what I said. They will slow down the content and not focus on the game. This is the same thing they are said to be doing to HotS since the higher ups don't think it will be that good
stop using that fucking word. scraping source files for into is data scraping. mining is doing fucking analysis on it.
>Data Mining is an analytic process designed to explore data (usually large amounts of data - typically business or market related - also known as "big data") in search of consistent patterns and/or systematic relationships between variables
>blizz telling russians, brs, and aussies to fuck off
They fucking recognize the hype, but they don't seem to understand why they're getting it. Don't nobody give two shits about another fucking multiplayer only FPS, aimed toward the "super elite" E-Sport fanbase.
The hype they have been bathing in for this game comes from the interesting cinematic reveal that led to people being excited for a new world, new lore, interesting characters, and they're not going to get any of that. The lore is going to boil down to character bios and maybe one more cinematic being released for the game, and that's it. So what Blizzard has effectively, and amazingly, done is create hype for a game they never intended to make.
People wanted to dive into the world of Overwatch and learn about these (potentially) interesting characters, and the conflict that arose within Overwatch, instead they're going to get a $40 shooter that will be marketed like it's a revolutionary "E-Sports killer" and it'll be forcefed to the masses that way.
overwatch is doing what street fighter did in the 90's and taking it to the next level
stereotype maps - check
stereotype heros - check
its about time somebody took that formula and did it properly, now all they need is their version of guile's stage theme and this shit will hit overdrive
>There are people who have the beta and have absolutely no interest in playing or buying the game at all
>Meanwhile there are people frothing at the mouth, willing to pay the whole $60 for the Origins edition and they get jack shit
This is not how you market pre-orders Blizzard.
>8 months until release
You know I was kind of thinking this thing would be a deathblow to TF2, but god damn when your exclusive ass beta is lasting for fucking ever with only streamers getting to play it, and TF2 matchmaking going to be out by the end of the year, maybe that corpse will just keep on shambling.
Seriously though 8 fucking months when people already have access to what is essentially the full game? Come the fuck on Blizz
They have the servers ready they plan to have.
There are a lot of reasons, but a few of them are pretty obvious.
As another stated, you want your product to appear good, scarce and let a select few promote it, and show you how good this product is.
You want it, and the more you cant have this, you will want it more, as long as they can make you believe it is worth it.
Also, the beta is not really a "beta" as most probably can figure out. The game is so incredibly polished, have almost every hero at launch, with only few maps disguising it as a beta. Therefore it is a PR platform, and close to a full game.
They dont want people having acces to the game yet because of several reasons.
One is production slates (try look at blizzard planned releases, why should they give acces now of all times?)
Another is that you risk people getting tired of the game before planned.
Yes they could cash in a lot of money, but unless they can make your buy un-refundable with the beta they will take a risk.
This is only the tip of the iceberg.
>its about time somebody took that formula and did it properly
>took that formula and did it properly
> did it properly
Its too bad we're cursed to walk the earth until the end of time then.
I've been watching STAR_ for years and have been keeping up on his autistic 8hr/day streams consistently.
I don't get why he gets hate here. He's a bitter, cynical fuck who hates memes.
Or they're targetting the fortress shooter market since TF2 has existed for almost 10 years without much competition?
That game's stale as fuck and I like a larger cast of characters to choose from now, with new gameplay features.
I don't see how that makes any sense, if preorders would get beta access most people would inatantly buy the game right now(me included) but if takes more than 6 months before I get to play there is a good chance that I will have forgotten about it by then will be playing another game.
What are you going to play Husbandowatch on?
Yes and No: Yes as a person, no because he and the rest only play the hitscan heroes and that's fucking boring
I want to see someone that plays only Roadhog and shows off the best the hero can do
Is this game even going to live?
I need a new multiplayer game to play and there's nothing out there and TF2 got stale over 2 years ago
Dirty Bomb might've made it if not for the shitty devs
Releasing 3 big contents at almost the same time, competing with your money and time is not a good plan. Even you should be able to see that Kojimbo.
Also they want people to be hype, and not in any way burned out when they are ready to roll out their micro-transaction carpet, even if the groundwork for it is done.
Face it man, that money is wasted. I would have bought it if that panel wasn't as fucking atrocious as it was.
He's the leader of the good guys turned masked vigilante. Trying to uncover the bad guys
Can you guys name some successful B2P competitive mutliplayer only/focused games from recent times? I don't know if I should count Call of Duty just because it's Call of Duty you know? And I feel like CS:GO is only as big as it is because of the economy it has that no other game could hope to replicate.
So just how hard is this game going to flop? If you want a successful multiplayer online game these days you need a large ass playerbase and these days that's only really possible through either being F2P or by appealing to 12 year olds. Is this game going to be the next Evolve?
What counts as "successful"? SMITE is successful but it's got a very small dedicated group of about 12k players a day (according to steam stats)
Of course there's all the valve games: TF2, CS:GO, Dota 2
COD, Battlefield, Destiny, GW2 (PvP / SPvP is a big deal to the devs and community)
Hanzo is also technically a bad guy trying to become a good guy. He was all on board for running a world wide crime organization until he had to kill his own brother (which he went through with, or at least tried to go through with). He probably did some dirty shit while he was leader if he was begrudgingly willing to kill his own brother.
Also don't forget Widowmaker.
>tfw i wish i was a hero in the overwatch universe
>instead im just an ugly neet mexican who exists solely because my mother fucked a guy she met at a nightclub in some backwater town in mexico
at least video games help me escape reality
Rocket League is this shit done right.
But Blizzard knows that their loyal slaves will pay 150$+ for 'loot', because that's the sort of idiots they are.
Hope you guys are ready for what's in store for Chinese Ice Velma.
Also, if someone has the 3d model sheet screencap of Mei, that would help a lot.
Is English not your primary language? All the requests are "draw cute pictures of Mei and her great big titties"
Which are all fucking stupid requests, draw D.Va being fucked by her robot
Just move to america and enlist in the army and practice shooting so hard that you become the best shot in the world! Then the FBI recruits you and you go around killing bad guys and saving the world.
In the Ellohime video from a bit ago they said hero leveling currently unlocks sprays and things; my guess is it'll be something akin to HOTS where leveling up the hero gives you a couple of shitty skins meant to entice you to buy good ones
I heard that if I pre order it I get Beta access?
How does Blizzard expect this to be an esport if they a) deny widespread access to the game behind both a B2P and a grind for features system and b) continually piss on people's hopes and dreams by denying a real beta and treating people like idiots. Are the Overwatch team an entirely new team brought in just for Overwatch or what? How can you have an esport if you literally stop anyone who's interested in the game from getting into it?
They don't expect anything. They expect a big cash grab at the start, then content will roll out at a snail's pace just so people keep buying skins. Everything else is just lies so they can keep squeezing the money out of this game
The only similarity I see is the double jump. Scout is designed about working around team damage to clean up kills, while Genji is more of a 1v1 flank and get-in-your-face with that deflect skill
>D.Va and Genji designed to be hard counters against Widowmaker
>WoW bleeding subs with the expansion a year away
>SC2 and D3 stillborn
>HotS was never alive
>HS players are in full revolt and leaving the game in droves
>OW is dead before it even released
When do you think Activision is jettisoning Blizzard into bankruptcy? 2018, 2019?
Fag friend who actually bought the 30$ virtual ticket was watching the panel; jkap said genji counters Widowmaker.
His deflect lasts like 4-5 seconds, long enough to survive exposed open? I can't really explain blizdev logic, maybe they were just spouting more BS
>D.Va's health is white for the 150 and yellow for the rest of it
Does that mean the Yellow cant be healed?
Maybe repaired by a certain class?
You'll get a stress test invite with only a limited amount of characters available, hope you weren't looking forward to playing some specific because they won't be available to you ;)
Please tell me there's footage somewhere of the genderbender guy from earlier today.
It'll serve as a great example of why Blizzdrones are literally autistic.
>he asked about rule 63
>and not the beta
>Scout is designed about working around team damage to clean up kills, while Genji is more of a 1v1 flank and get-in-your-face with that deflect skill
Genji can do the exact same thing though, and the fact you can see enemy health arguably makes him even better at it.. Scout is also a great flanking get-in-your-face class as well.
>game has been out for this long
>still don't know the difference in health values
White = Regular Health
Blue = Shields (regenerate on their own after a while)
Yellow = Armor (can be healed, resistant against hitscan damage)
Yellow means Armor, Armor reduces each instance of damage by some flat amount (-5 or something?), meaning low damage high rate of fire heroes (Tracer, Soldier 76) do significantly reduced damage to Armor.
Blue means Shield, Shields regenerate. White is Health-Health
Support Heroes / Health Packs / etc will regenerate the base armor of heroes that have armor (but not, for example, armor from Tjorb's buff)
>several top players come out complaining about how stagnant and dull the game has become
>several thousand comment threads on Reddit and other forums talking about how boring the game is, people quitting, etc.
>huge aura of doom and gloom surrounding the game, all HS communities are in anarchy
Yes, Genji was a hard counter to WM in the Alpha. He can dash, double jump and climb to get to her location while reflecting to avoid shots. He can also snipe her with his shurikens.
You mean my face when two hours ago?
Disguised Toast quit making HS content
Firebat, seraph and Trolden all said HS was pretty shit and the design team needs to get their shit together.
Reddit is all up in arms about it as well.
This is only in the last week and it's probably not even all.
Yeah but she has no offensive abilities and is a sitting duck while shooting, besides her ult. Roadhog can hook her in and she'll be extremely out of position and vulnerable. Widowmaker can snipe her easy because of her giant cockpit headshot hitbox.
Gotta cover that landwhale audience too I see. She's probably going to be some disgusting fujoshi too.
Literally why are people getting mad at Mei looking chubby.
This diversifies the women of the game. If you're too conservative to look at it like some kind of...I don't even know what, then look at it as them including more fetishes into their game.
Seriously. What. Is. The. Problem. Explain it without using the word "Tumblr"
Why are you lying on the internet? I'm watching his stream right meow and he just got done saying how excited he is for the comp scene but that he's worried about Blizz jewery
AFAIK her suit can be killed Junkrat style, at least I think I saw that happen during a blizzcon player stream
>yfw the TF2 and Quake pros get together to scrim the devs and they call them out on being shifty pieces of shit on stream
I guess that makes sense. Even Day9 (one of the biggest blizzdrones ever) said that HS had become too stagnant with only a few decks being viable. You think the new adventure announced will fix it?
Her design is odd. She has high mobility and a ton of health, but her firepower is lacking and can't shield people outside of her defense matrix, which seems almost useless outside of shutting down Pharah hard. Reinhart and Winstons barriers are much more useful.
Mercy, all day erry day
I don't even care if that's not what they went with; that's what I'm going with
you already know anon, you already know..
>Tracer needs a quicker reload OR higher mag capacity OR mildly higher damage
>Winston's gun needs more damage, or maybe an alt fire that actually does damage. Perhaps a heal gimmick on damage.
>Widowmaker needs a tremendously lowered fire rate, wallhacks reduced to every-other-second blinks, bodyshot damage reuced by at least half of what it is now, and everyone who has played her for more than once gets explosive diarrhea as punishment for playing a broken class
>Mercy's damage boost should be reduced
>Tobjorn should be less hilariously awful
>Bowman should be able to fire arrows much quicker
No but she's considerably more vulnerable than other tanks.
Obviously the difference between a good and bad Roadhod is hooking her in when you know her ult is down :^)
What went wrong?
>Not F2P despite everyone knowing more heroes will come out
>So far no word about mods
>$40 price wall
>Beta that no one got into
>Streamers that did get in had to abandon the game to play more HS, a game they hate
Literally everything about the game screams "Give us all your money, then we're gonna shift outta here and give you updates once every several months"
How am I supposed to care for the game if it seems Blizzard themselves care nothing for it?
It astounds me how little damage Tracer actually does. You'd think she'd be a bit burstier with having lowest health in the game, but goddamn it looks impossible to kill anything that isn't already dead unless you spam melees
streaming new characters from blizzcon
>Isn't Roadhog's right click a big packet of damage?
Primary fire is pointblank shotgun. Secondary is a shotgun blast that doesn't activate until it launches out a bit. Effectively making it a gap closing shotgun blast, very useful for dishing out high shotgun damage to a flying Pharah. Since they'll usually in enough distance for the secondary to fly out and activate very close to them. Though ofcourse it's also just generally useful for making it so you don't have to rely on being in people's faces all the time to hit them with high damage.
If you can track properly her damage output is fine. If it was any higher she would be broken with how mobile she is and the fact she has a free get-out-of-jail card at all times.
Zarya is FAR better because she has shields, a CC ult, AOE fire and single target fire. Not to mention Zarya doesn't become a considerably weaker sitting duck after she ults.
Honestly D.va looks like a memepick that I'm going to autistically main because I'm a weeb.
Uh a Tracer will just blow you both up with one ult.
The best way to Defend is either to play Sniper and relocate periodically, or cover two doors as Symmetra, or harass the enemy far enough forward that if you die you have time to run back / use the portal
Torb and Bastion are too slow, too immobile, too low health, take too long to get into position, and are too easy to kill.
Torb got nerfed to shit (supposedly) because he was OP before the beta, Bastion is just fundamentally poorly designed
I'm not very good at evaluating cards desu senpai. I thought they looked okay, I assumed Discover was their way of trying to shift slightly away from RNG that people complain about to much.
Also protects us from a large amount of potential players and any hope of the game becoming the next big thing
Hilarious how much hype the game had and how badly Blizzard managed to turn the hype into a trainwreck
Even if you track perfectly she will do less damage than most other heroes. This is not even counting how badly armor counters her.
All the Tracers in the dev team games are used only for harass. She is never able to kill anybody. You need to have good mastery of Tracer to stay alive, but that doesn't change your piddling damage output
they are beyond the point of unfucking the game. unless there is a way to blow out deathrattles with silence and destroy before turn 4. you lose too much life to hold cards for "value" so the entire game since gvg has just become meta sense. the game ends when you put the 30th card in a deck.
>preordering gives you a shitty dreads widowmaker
>doesn't give you beta access
then what's the fucking POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOINT
How the heck do you get into the beta?
I tried for a key on 3 separate accounts and nothing.
Yeah I don't see the point of D.Va. I mean she looks fun as fuck. But as a tank she's not tanky enough, and has almost no support skills unless the defense matrix has some other proprieties we don't know about yet. She doesn't have the firepower to take down a lot of people or properly assassinate people quickly. She's insanely mobile which is great, but Winston is also very mobile and much better at his job.
I just don't see what purpose she fills.
Yeah I still think that animation for throwing shurikens is awful. It's also weird how you can pull out your sword when you want to dash, and block projectiles but you can only swing it around when you have and use your ultimate.
It seems like she has heavier DPS than other Tanks, and infinite ammo means she can pressure areas with non-stop fire. Defense matrix is good for saving a team from certain powerful attacks, and is a direct counter to Pharah's attacks and Ult
Good thing no other major shooters used to charge full price, right? That'd be ridiculous
>Actual Japanese archer from Japan speaks broken English with heavy accent
>Cyborg Naruto from Nepal speaks perfect Japanese
Fucking logic, they are just pandering to anime babbies.
If they are going that route then why not let the Tumblr dyke speak Russian and the nigger speak Brazilian eh?
I thought they would F2P too, but im genuinely happy that i can actually buy the game.
This way is much faster, cheaper and more effective than the F2P model in the end if you want all heroes.
And yes, there will be DLC most likely. But the game is 40 dollars, which is 20 of a usual AAA title.
Those 20 can buy you the remaining heroes coming out after release.
Besides the no beta buy-in, im okay. And the no-buy in is understandable if you think about their release slate, even if it is a bummer.
>Overwatch isn't F2P
>/vg/ correctly predicted console release.
>Costs THAT FUCKING MUCH
>Can smell the hero shop for new releases from here, despite Blizzard denying it.
Is this really the time where I induce vomiting while I say "Black Ops 3 is the better buy here"? I never thought I'd fucking say that Call of Duty was the better anything, but...my Overwatch Hype keeps getting fucking stepped on
Mei's icethrower needs to be like twice the range, or she needs to run a lot faster
Pyro in TF2 only works because he's fast, has good health, and really the best players juggle people to death with airblast and shotgun
>People whine about games being dead if they go F2P immediately
>Same people whine that the game isn't F2P immediately
>She's a dog eating shit flinging barbarian Korean
There will probably be more heroes, and probably a way to buy them in-game.
Are you really so needy that you're refusing to buy a game with 21 heroes for right out of the box, simply because they might add some more later that you have to unlock?
“I play to win.”
>D.Va is a former professional gamer who now uses her skills to pilot a state-of-the-art mech in defense of her homeland.
Tumblr plz go, stop redefining fat as "thick" or "chubby".
21 heroes is a good amount, but it's not enough to keep the game alive for a game that's JUST multiplayer team fights, especially on consoles. I mean, no one really knows how the game plays becuase it looks boring as shit to watch like most FPS games