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>See Devil Survivor for dirt cheap on Ebay
>Get excited and impulse buy
>It's the DS Version
I want to fuck Mirai
If you're going to copy me then at least do it right
I want to fuck Haniel.
the H at the beginning makes him sound smaller and more qt. Much better name than just Aniel.
>What are the chances we'll ever get an actual new Megaten again that isn't Persona?
We're still at about the point where projects authorized by Index should be coming to a close. So a bit after P4G airs?
I don't understand the question. What's the "point" of any content of any post here? Or anything done anywhere. People like doing it. If it doesn't directly harm you in any meaningful way, which it obviously doesn't, there's no reason to complain.
But they wouldn't be done correctly, all they would be is "qt lawboi edition" with the same picture of Haniel, or "WURLD OF DIC (Dic is short for dick) edition" probably with a picture of Mara.
The point of posting in /smtg/ is to discuss Megaten games and related materials. Pointless flavor text on the top of the page does nothing so there's no point in starting to add it.
You're being stupid. I'll see if I can break this down for you as simply as possible. "Does nothing" isn't a problem, since by definition its nothing. You being a dick to tons of people because you personally dislike a single line of non-disruptive text is the problem. There is rarely if ever a time when this board is so bad that no one can discuss whatever game they want on it and get answers right away. And the times it is have nothing to do with editions. The problem is you. So either stop being annoyed that "/vg/ is leaking into a thread which is itself on /vg/" or fuck off to gamefaqs like everyone wants you to.
>implying android girls aren't always the best girls
>Disagreeing with someone is being a dick
No need to get your panties in a wad there faggot. Editions are useless, they don't contribute anything to discussion and they aren't useful to people who are looking to get into a thread's series. Like I said before, they're just there because the OP just wants to make a joke, and not even a good one at that.
Also, never assume to be speaking for everyone, it just makes you look like a faggot.
>says people shouldn't do something, implying universal purpose.
>d-don't speak for everyone.
Fucking post timer is ridiculous now.
Oh wow, making an account an uploading is fucking easy. imgur coming up.
Got a question about Devil Survivor Overclocked, how does Battle Aura work? Whenever an enemy has it they seem to randomly block attacks, even if it would definitely deal more than 50 damage. What's the deal with that?
Any damage dealt that is 50 or less gets nullified. How do you know that the damage is definitely more than 50? The enemies that most likely have Battle Aura are the leaders of the enemy party. So long as they have demons the Leader takes reduce damage. Battle Aura also affects the everyone in the party.
you think this is a motherfucking game?
tumblr invasion is real.
go back to /pg/ son i hear that they have a waifu war or something.
Now that Atlus changed their logo they sent me a new white t-shirt to replace my old one, good since it had many stains on it from over the years. One problem...
it's a fucking medium. they don't seriously expect me to scrunch in to this thing do they?
So, After finally getting sweet vengeance upon Beelzabitch, I am now out of challenge quests to do in the neutral path, but am still at the 2nd place hunter ranking.
What the fuck do I do now.
Well, I finished the quest, but my rank is still #2.
Should I just post my complete list of quests and ask you guys what I missed, or something? Cause I am completely out of Ideas.
All that effort and I forgot the image
A fixed width font has the same width for every character, so i and w have the same pixel length.
In a variable width font you can set a different width for each character, so you save a lot of space and it looks prettier.
AGTP's if... translation hacked VWF into the game, but originally it used the same font as SMT2.
Compare this screenshot to SMT2. You can fit like three times or more text.
Ok, maybe it's just twice the text. But you get the idea.
Thanks, gents. God, Zhi's If text is so beautiful. The shadow accents aesthetic really does it for me. So, in VWF the text is coded for each letter to be handled on a separate basis? "i" and "w" are manually set to take up different pixel widths, if I have the hang of it.
Pick the most powerful SMT character you can think of.
Whether it be canonically or your strongest MC from any game you've played
Just pick Demi-fiend
Alright here we go
You just accepted this duel
I pick Abel.
The worst part was that enemies in SMT II don't drop MAG nearly as much as in SMT, so I can't just estoma my way through the game while stocking up every now and then.
At least the soundtrack has more variation
After replaying the game, I don't understand why everyone blames Ken for that. Shinjiro wanted to be punished, Takaya's the one who murders him, and Ken lives for Shinji and his mom the rest of the game.
Which is very necessary for DS1 since some lines are a fair bit longer in English.
>A nocturne (from the French which meant nocturnal, from Latin nocturnus) is usually a musical composition that is inspired by, or evocative of, the night.
you could say 'night' had fallen for the old world, and the struggle of conception was about what kind of 'dawn' would be seen tomorrow
SMTIV was my first SMT game and I really enjoyed it
What should I play next? I want to get into the rest of the series.
Honestly I tried all the others and it made it too blurry or made weird lines all over the place.
It emulates bad enough as it is, man.
Pretty much only SMT, but yeah.
Well, a guy named Kajitani-Eizan helmed a Tales of Hearts translation until the butchered western release was announced. He added a feature that, when L or R were held down when starting a new file you got Localized or Rocarized names. L for Shing, Amber and Jaden. R for Shingu, Kohak and Hisui.
I know this project is already a massive undertaking, but give it to me straight doc. Would something like that be a lot of effort? I know this is incredibly nitpicky and I wouldn't dream of this being anything but an after-afterthought, but how labor intensive would something similar be? For "with-u" names, Kyouji and Rei Reihou and the like, and "without-u" names, Kyoji and Rei Reiho, etc.?
Haha, well, that would be a rather absurd amount of effort for such a small detail, so probably not.
Also, Rei Reiho is a Chinese name (? ??), and even in katakana is not written with a long u, but rather a small u (???????).
Let's say that by next week you guys have the VWF, how long do you think would it take to release the patch?
I don't know shit about translation and programming so pls don't kill me, take all my macca
Well I haven't really started working on it with them yet, so I don't know, but as I understand it, for the most part the PSX script will be re-used, sans the American names. That translation is actually quite good.
Uh well, I have no idea how long actually getting the VWF sorted out would take, but other than that it's mostly a matter of insertion, formatting, and then testing.
Insertion takes longer than you'd think and isn't as simple as just copying over what I've already written down because it's formatted differently. For examples, the first 'block' has 5000 lines, and I've replaced 2550 or so lines in the past two days. I don't know how many blocks there are either, but that part shouldn't take more than a week or two depending on how fast we get them out.
Ideally, I would like to finish the patch before the end of this year.
Women in suits are the best.
>before the end of this year
>mfw already in July
they'll surely show Break Record at the nintendo direct!
Oh yeah, there is a Japanese Nintendo Direct for 3rd Party 3DS games
>I hate persona
>want remakes of games more or less based on persona.
do you want SJ, social links edition too, lawfag?
so how's digital devil saga? I've been playing nocturne and it's cool, but the frequency of battles and the dungeons annoy me a bit, plus the fact that it's mostly 90 degree angles and stuff. when I finish nocturne I'm thinking of getting DDS1
Nocturne doesn't have that frequent of battles compared to other JRPGs and other SMTs.
Fuck, I still get nightmares thinking about how many encounters Skies of Arcadia has, just trying to walk through a dungeon was a nightmare. Should I get that item? No fuck it, that's like 4 fights.
I'll probably try Raidou just to give myself a break from RPGs in general and maybe then move onto DDS. But no negotiating? As long as you can still recruit demons I guess that's fine, but has me curious about how it's done
Unsure how much you know but hell, may as well ask.
Will Baofu (instead of Paofu) and Ulala (instead of Urara) still be used?
Will you use the voice acting from the English version of EP, or just keep the Japanese voices? On one hand it's a pretty bad dub with tons of overacting and corny delivery, but on the other hand, I've gotten really attached to the voice clips used in battles.
>It's self-defense, there's NO problem with that.
Why is Knights of the Holy Spear the best track in all of MegaTen?
Now it's time for Hitler
Watch out, Heil Hitler!
Yeah, the only thing that's really coming to mind are spell names (Maha->Ma, Holy->Light, etc.) and a small tweak about
how the Sumaru Genie is an intersex clubber (and not really a fortune teller).
This is reminding me about how much I liked Persona 2's NPCs.
60 POUNDS FOR GAMES THAT COST 40$
HAAHHAAHAHHAAHAH OH WOW
THANKS NISA FOR FUCKING OVER EUROPE
GUESS I'LL BE PIRATING SMT4 AND PERSONA Q AFTER ALL
RUMOR THAT SMT4 WILL BE 50 POUNDS IN EUROPE CONFIRMED
You know that SMT IV is digital only and by Atlus, not NISA, right?
Not that it won't cost a lot more than it should, of course.
But yeah, NISA is fucking ridiculous. Now think that those limited editions are only available and their website, and the pound to euro exchange ratio.
If Persona Q's limited edition is 60 pounds, I'd be paying around 90 euros. Which I won't, of course.
Ah, I can't wait for the GateWay team to release a version compatible with 7.x (and supposedly 8.x) firmwares.
>Pirate is the only way to show them that such practices are unacceptable.
By which you mean "Pirating is the only way to make them increase the prices even more to make up for lost sales," right?
>What is the reason for smt1 psx ?
SNES one is outdated as hell, looks terrible (due to no textures in dungeons, only flat colored walls) and has less content than psx version. Also as far as i know the psx smt1 work has been going for like 2 years now but was sort of in limbo for a while due to lack of programmer, they resumed recently since the devil summoner psp programmer joined.
>Europeans getting fucked over Atlus games by someone other than Atlus
>"We're not selling as many games as we'd like. We should increase the price to make each sale count for more."
It's either that or they just stop selling you things at all.
I'm not saying what they're doing is right, but what you're doing certainly isn't going to fix it. I don't know what would, but it's not like it really matters. You'd just pirate the games anyway, even if the price was reasonable, wouldn't you?
>"We're not selling as many games as we'd like. We should increase the price to make each sale count for more."
Except that's not true since they literally launched the EU store on 1st of July and the prices have been set at that ridiculous point since the start.
You're a fucking retard incapable of basic comprehension, especially since games here sell a lot more than in USA. NISA is flat out being jews, trying to exploit Europe.
>You'd just pirate the games anyway, even if the price was reasonable, wouldn't you?
No you fucking drone, I was actually going to pre-order PQ, but NISA clearly prefers to shit all over Europe.
NISA and Atlus can fuck off and die in fire, other companies don't shit in Europe but NISA and Atlus have to.
Now fuck off you dumb drone.
Ah, it's you again.
I don't really disagree with you, but please, use a nicer tone. I don't really understand why you are getting so upset and insulting everyone.
And before you say anything, yeah, I am European and I am as disgusted as you.
You sure you're not Canzah?
>NISA had a terrible reputation
Among the people outraged about them lessening sexualization, yeah. Only catching
snatches of the outrage makes it hard to really get why people are so mad about it.
You say that. I've been to JRPGen and it doesn't seem like they're ever satisfied with anything. Hating NISA over everything honestly felt like a meme to me. Granted, I was almost a total outsider, but I don't take your word for it. At all.
>hurr durr i'm a dumb namefag that's too stupid to make research
I'll spoonfeed you a bit.
Cutting out content from localized version of Mugen Souls
Censoring content in various games
Half-assed translations that include fanfic and memes that are not present in original Japanese text (Danganronpa is a very good recent example)
And the list goes on
Now you can fuck off and die, you attentionwhoring retard.
Why would anyone listen to you if you insist on being condescending and obnoxious? You're assassinating your own message. I can't blame NISA one bit if you're the average complaining purist.
Yes, your tone can make or break you. This is the real world, and you're actively snapping at the hand that feeds you is definitely why NISA won't give complaints like yours the time of day. Blinding vitriol solves nothing
>yeah get fog breath and he's easy peasy
>learned at level 21
Sure ok, I'll just grind 5 levels real quick
Not much to choose from. Guess I could fuse Lilim and Jack Frost for Nozuchi who's strong against Force but he's pretty shit otherwise, and I'd lose my healer.
When do you get access to the Demon Compendium? You can buy your healer back. Honestly though Resist Force is fine, you just need at least one with Null force. Which the MC with the Magatama should suffice.
RIP Break Record
at least i've all most finished original DeSu2
I'm planning on playing P3 once my semester at uni begins, but I'm curious as to how I could go about playing P1 and P2 and if they're worth it. Is emulation the way to go or are there better ways to get at these games?
>Andalucia twice in a row
Are you fucking shitting me
Why is demon negotiation so fun in Persona 2 and Soul Hackers but shit everywhere else?
Speaking of SH, anyone except AG translating the PSX version?
Atlus does really half-assed ports, anon. You should know this by now.
At the time that was pretty good, since they had updated the UI to be more similar to PSX Soul Hackers, and added a compendium.
It was updated from the original Devil Summoner (on the Sega Saturn) to look more like Soul Hackers (on the PSX), since it came out in 2005.
Wow that really looks like shit, even for ATLUS.
You can have a PSX style UI and not have it be shit, hopefully.
Did they do ANYTHING else besides add an ugly UI and compendium? I wish you all the luck you can get/have Debiru-sama.
Yes, of course. As it is there's no way to actually fit all the text into the game without breaking something.
In regards to sword fusions in Soul Hackers: are there any in particular I should keep an eye out for? I just finished the Amami Float dungeon and made myself a nice new elec-element sword because my old wind-element sword was falling behind.
Also, when selling MAG, roughly how much should I sell? I sold 20K before and that left me with over 200K including the funds I had beforehand. Can't help but feel I went overboard a little.
Other than the UI and compendium, some improvements were made to the nearly-unusable negotiation system present in the Saturn version to bring it up to at least SH's level, and loadtimes were improved significantly. Watch any video of the Saturn version, then watch a similar video of the PSP version and you'll see what I mean. Even a simple enemy encounter takes a good 3-5 seconds to get going.
Sell as much MAG as you want. If all else fails, just run around the primate lab for 10 minutes if you need more.
As for swords, I always tried to fuse ones that didn't have elements on them just so I could hit everything indiscriminately. I fused Odin onto one though and it was a beefy as fuck sword.
Also, it's worth mentioning that she works similar to Nemissa, and you can pursue three skill sets.
Also, the protagonist's beginning stats depend on what sort of coffee you order prior to dying (though other choices may also play a role).
>tfw Debisama 20th Anniversary in 2015
by soejima and meguro
>they hang both translator and display them to everyone in Tokyo
Agreed, its one of those games I replay once a year. Glad my copy still works. I wish they remake it, you know like an HD stuff that they do now a days. Would be nice so they can fix a few things to it.
More games should follow the whole Open World turn based games. I missed those.
>Meguro ruins DS1's amazing soundtrack by replacing it with jpop
I find it hilarious that that thing was so liked.
i didnt choose the knuffle life, the knuffle life chose me
The existence of more than one Knuffle in this thread is blasphemy. We must kill them all and restore balance in our general
Well fuck, now I know who i'm going to cosplay as.
>not cosplaying as Tadashi with Kyouji clothe's
oh god that's kinda hot
...though maybe a little dangerous
I don't know why, but your post reminded me that there's finally an SH version of Special Feeling.
For the anon who said he wanted to see Megaten parodies of that meme.
That's never stopped anybody else before.
>I'm sure that if you saw rei and kyouji cosplayers in a con you'd love it regardless of their beauty
His clothes say business but his shoes say party
>can't even dress himself properly
Damn it, Leader, get it together.
Just imagine him throwing on whatever clean clothes he has after a long night of hacking, because he has to run out to play with his buddies
He's a strong leader and video game player.
>full of homolust between leader and hacker
Obviously they thought it was super cool special effects/a natural byproduct of all that high tech stuff their city is famous for.
Actually, aren't there one or two non-Phantom NPCs who mention it and think they've lost it?
>Will SMT ever be about exploration?
Don't know about real time, but considering how heavily SMTIV depends on sidequests for content, I wouldn't be surprised if we get an actual open world SMT at some point, where you can just walk to anywhere from the start. It likely still will be turn based though.
I don't think most people actually saw the demons on the mall. The people who entered there went crazy.
The other ones seem to be just written off as abandoned/restricted access installations.
It's something that really bugged me while playing through. If there are so many demons in those locations, why aren't they spreading around like they did in the original timeline?
Because the P1 cast is really a bunch of misfits. They don't all get along very well (Nanjo and Brown, Nanjo and Mark), and they're bad at following orders, so it's amazing that someone is actually able to get them to put aside their differences and agree to following one person.
>mfw P5 will have a cast of misfits
Well, let's be honest. There are only two major characters in SH who aren't jerks to Spooky at some point, and one canonically has the mental state of a child. Of course the pairingfags would cling to Hacker.
Yeah, the SH tag is pretty dead these days, with the exception of that person's art.
I know that, but does it mean anything if the deathstone loses it's brilliance?
To fuse my matador, I used my pixie that I know becomes uber towards the end of the game if you still have it or one of it's descendants in your party.
How can I fuse some good support (buff/debuff) demon? I've just beated Donte first time on
I was watching a
Giant Bomb Quick Lookand they mentioned that when they were talking about Capcom and Atlus. Didn't knew Index was shady. Is it like one of those weird corrupt thing Japan has, that involve Yakuza, government and private business? Did Atlus ever got involved with any of that?
Use mitamas. They really helped my autism in Nocturne, when i wanted all demons to sort of have a "theme", like multi-elemental, the fire dude and so on, instead of just spreading buffs and debuffs through demons. Also had Fog Breath on the MC
Holy shit P2 is so fun.
>BEST NEGOTIATIONS OUTSIDE OF SH
>interesting story so far
mediocre battle system, but my turbo button makes it all good.
Shit guys, dunno why it took me so long to give it a try. Not very far in, Maya just joined me.
Do I need to have played P1 to understand it? Yukino just made a bunch of references to SEBEC and all that.
I think its more like.
law: there is no gender. Everyone just has to act maximally pragmatically utilitarian.
Chaos: technically any gender is allowed, but in reality you will be treated like shit if you're not uber masculine and strong. This even applies to anyone female. The only exceptions are those literally so strong that they don't need to show it off anymore, or those who are happy being submissive and working for stronger more masculine people.
Wasn't it Maragilao in P3P, though? I distinctly remembered feeling confused as to the sudden name change.
And of course I can't even find it on SMT wiki. Maybe I just went crazy for a second
ok but what about
In nocturne you see one in "you're too weak" prison who says she tried to use sexuality to get let out, but it didn't fly. Besides. Succubuses ARE kind of masculine. Or at any rate, the different kind of "womanly" persona that's not a "feminine" one.
The P1 references are mostly just fan service for people who played the previous game, and a way to tie it Persona despite the different gameplay.
And yeah, I love P2, too. Just finished EP for the first time earlier this week, and man, I miss those games, but it feels too early to replay them - especially when I have other Megaten games I haven't even played once.
Cool. Time to save this school!
Can I really just level up dex and nothing else like the pastebin implies? I'm only level 4 and have put every single point into dex so far. Since I'm only fighting low level mooks (and that toilet rumor demon) I have no way to gauge if my low health is a detriment.
Yeah, you'll be fine. I just pumped Sec like crazy and then put points into Vit afterwards.
I got a Vitality Source (from the casino, I think) that kept my Vit from lagging behind.
Tatsuya had like double the HP/SP that everyone else had, and he was the same level.
Dex will make your magic power and magic defense absolutely insane, not to mention your capacity to do magic skyrockets. So yes, max dex ASAP, maybe spare a few points to get your HP up if your Persona gives you a point of Dex on level up.
>Have a tatsuya with max Vit and Dex
>Will never be able to use him in EP
IS translation patch fixes that, there's also a compatibility patch for EP.