"He's bigger, faster, and stronger too" edition
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The 3DS version released on September 13th in Japan and will be available October 3rd abroad, with the Wii U version to follow in Winter, both of this year.
Both systems will share the same characters.
>Key differences between the Wii U and 3DS versions:
?There will be certain stages exclusive to the Wii U/3DS
?There will be certain game modes exclusive to the Wii U/3DS
?The Wii U version is being designed for a more multiplayer experience, while the 3DS version is being designed for a more personal experience
?The art styles will be different
>Collection of Sakurai's Updates:
? Villager from Animal Crossing
? Mega Man from Mega Man
? Wii Fit Trainer from Wii Fit
? Rosalina from Super Mario Galaxy
? Little Mac from Punch-Out!!
? Greninja from Pokémon X/Y
? Mii Fighters from Mii Channel
? Palutena from Kid Icarus
? Pac-Man from Pac-Man
? Lucina from Fire Emblem: Awakening
? Robin from Fire Emblem: Awakening
? Shulk from Xenoblade Chronicles
? Duck Hunt Dog from Duck Hunt
? Dark Pit from Kid Icarus: Uprising
?? Bowser Jr. from Super Mario Sunshine
*Alph from Pikmin 3 (Captain Olimar)
*Koopalings from Super Mario Bros. 3 (Bowser Jr.)
* = Alternate(s) with unique voice clips and appearance but sharing same move set as default character
>Official Trailer, Character Intros, Latest Reveal, and other videos:
>All Characters Unlocked
>Custom Move Sets
>/ssbg/ site (extras:Emulation Netplay Guide, Roster Maker, mods, links, etc.):
>/ssbg/ Steam Group:
Previous thread: >>80226484
For stages and music, maybe.
There's no DLC for characters. Your precious Ridley isn't making it in, stupid.
Going to ask here since people are actually playing.
I never played Smash. It looks interesting though. How does it compare to the others thus far? Does it seem to be an improvement in the series? I'll try the demo once it comes out, but just wondering since it will be my first Smash.
Great. Imagine if Snake was faster, but also slightly more fair. Still expected to be high tier.
Regular Mario is a bit better than him, but the killing power is appreciated.
Better than expected (read: not shit-tier)
sorry you don't know how fighting games work, any fast hard character is high tier by default
Although I can see him being bad on the 3DS version because he is probably hard as fuck to control
>colors are Red, Blue and Green
Shu master race.
>how to make hair: the Playstation 2 method
Has potential, incredibly variable whether you'll see a good LM or a bad LM
Pretty good, haven't seen too much of him though
Fun but still good
Just play Mario instead
It's my personal favorite so far, gameplay-wise.
It's basically in the middle between Melee and Brawl.
It's definitely an improvement, and you'll be able to get right into it. There's not really any advanced tech like in Melee, and everything you need to know is in the "How to Play", so you can just jump right in.
Only two in your list I don;t understand are duck dog and greninja. For Bowser Jr., I think they screwed up hard though. He should use the paintbrush rather than the stupid flying face.
is weird. He's super dominant on the ground but drops to z tier in the air. He would be 1000x better if you could dash dance
Solid. He's fast and has good recovery. Trouble killing things though
Good. Good recovery, disjointed hitboxes, and solid projectiles
Not enough info on doc/bj
You aren't gonna quell the chaos with your measly ideal of virtue, peasant.
>Banjo Duck Hunt
>White Dark Pit
>Galacta Meta Knight
>Green and Purple Doc
Your taste is impeccable, anon. Cudos to you.
I'm pissed, but I knew he was going to blow that opportunity, so I'm certainly not surprised.
Jesus, all that black and purple, could you dull your edgy just a touch?
I've never liked Ness's pink hat/Saturn shirt and never will.
I've played a few rounds of the demo and I can't tell if my circle pad feels looser or if I'm just being paranoid.
+old Tornado and Dair
is that how it is?
i really hope they reveal more about Sm4sh Wii U soon, i really don't see Sm4sh as a Wii U purchase for me
that would go to Pokken
Not that guy, but i used to play brawl competitively. The tourneyfag stereotypes you guys hear are mostly true. There was a big schism in the community after Brawl dropped, and the comp Brawl community was so desperate to make the comp scene work that they would let anyone into their community, even the worst autists and degenerates you can think of. Stories about sperglords breaking controllers, tvs and furniture in post-match rage were not uncommon. There was even one incident where an unconscious 14 year old girl was gangraped in a hotel after a tourney ended. Something similar happened to another chick about a year later, and this time she posted about it online, but she was laughed off that website. This and a few other incidents made me quit comp smash, those manchildren are seriously disgusting.
>Wario lost his white overalls
>Ike doesn't have his Domon palette
Uses his sword for warlock punch better range
Another punch that makes a explosion in his punch also increased range but weaker than both the other moves
Just does the grab pretty much were he his standing, but has big knockback and send them upward
Lunges forward with dark energy multi hit moves covers alot of ground, covers atleast half of FD
Can only grab on the ground but alot of damage, has a delayed leap after initial jump
If next to an opponent he launches them up with him then swats him away at the peak can KO around 90%
Does a spin that puts him at short hop height then kicks horizontally downward, if done in the sky it's more horizontal then down
still need the last down B
So what PotD could they possibly give us that would contain new and exciting information?
Hard Mode: no Wii U version info
why the hell don't they just update the website with the full roster. Everyone and their mother is aware of it. I swear to god I think Sakurai genuinely has autism.
Hey I just unlocked all Marth Custom Moves (except for 1)
>2. Wind Shield Breaker (repels the enemy)
>3. Horizontal Shield Breaker (moves forward, great for recovery)
>2. 45 Degrees Recovery (the best)
>3. Really High recovery
>3. Stronger like Melee, can recover a little bit like Melee
>2.Weaker but faster Counter
>3.Iaido Counter, approaches the enemy before he hits you (strong and great)
Don't listen to those other fuckers, they're all casuals who don't have the game yet and can't even understand move properties on a stream.
So far it's confirmed that his arrow fires differently from Pits, you get significantly less control but more speed and powder. His side-B launchs at a kill angle instead of a juggle angle and can activate out of shield. It seems like the properties on a lot of his normals are slightly different too. We're waiting on more information.
Just unlocked Dog by the skin of my ass because I was playing as Pikachu for the fight.
You guys have no idea the battle that just took place. Pikachu's side-b has been nerfed beyond any usefulness.
Sure seems pointless when her normal beam still hits in close range.
Now an ice beam, that would have been an idea. Maybe even some kind of electric beam. They could have called it "wave beam" maybe. Just a thought.
Sorry, I can't get over Sakurai giving a bunch of customs BS elemental affinities but not doing so for Samus.
>Maybe Uprising husbandofags exist?
You're right, I wasn't thinking.
melee was in 2001
even then falco's drill and jump height alone changed how he played, and even doc had no wall jump, a viagra sex kick, and other properties besides the angle of knockback
I haven't heard a thing unfortunately. But Sakurai's Miiverse post regarding Alph said "He can't use Rock Pikmin either" implying that it probably isn't even a custom move. Which is kinda weak.
If these 2 are not your mains in smash you obviously do not like fun
if any bro wants to hit me up with a download code i would love you so much
I love super smash rbos been playing for as long as I can remember and even got in the competitive scene(i still play for funsies all the time though)
steam: rub jelly on me
Wonder how he is doing it?
And if you had the game right now or just watched gameplay of it instead of repeating things said by /ssbg/ the absolute moment the roster leaked a month ago instead of waiting for someone to PLAY THE GAME, you would understand that Dark Pit really does have that many changes. He's slow, he jumps like shit, some of his attacks are slower (some are faster), all we've seen have different trajectories, and his B moves have pretty significant differences.
I don't like Dark Pit either but I'm not gonna make up bullshit about it to cope, what the fuck guys.
>“Lucas used to be weak-willed, and cry all the time. However, he overcame unimaginable hardships, and must surely be out adventuring somewhere right now. Or perhaps, he’s found a partner and made a family of his own… No, no, that feels too soon.
>To fans of the MOTHER series, both Lucas and Ness might be young boys for all eternity.”
Wait, so the reason Lucas was cut was because Sakurai was trying to put a stop to all the yaoi-shotacon fanfiction?
...I'm suddenly very okay with this cut.
>Wait, so the reason Lucas was cut was because Sakurai was trying to put a stop to all the yaoi-shotacon fanfiction?
But that makes it even worse.
We know he has Lucas' specials (PK Freeze, PK Fire that goes completely horizontal but doesn't make a pillar, PK Thunder that multi-hits, PSI Barrier that he holds out in front of him) but I doubt he has any of his A moves.
>LIttle Mac wears shorts and a tank top
>mfw he has 16 fucking costumes
>Think Megaman is absolutely balls
>Guy on /v/ says to ignore the b butting when playing as him and just focus on his A button attacks
>Able to beat down level 9 CPU because of it.
Is anybody else giving up on Wario?
I played him in Brawl and over time he felt really tiring. The biting move was really weird and didn't make a lot of sense, the bike feels clunky, the animations were jittery, and I hate that stupid farting move. I kept going because of his overalls and F-Smash shoulder ram, pretending that I was actually playing Wario.
Then comes Shake It! and I love Project M's Wario even more.
Now with Smash 4, he doesn't even have the shoulder attack anymore! The last thing I enjoyed about Wario is gone, they might as well have just taken out the overalls too, he's just a disgusting caricature of his former self. I'm never gonna play those stupid microgames, he could at least get coins every time he jabs an enemy or something.
>beating lv 9 CPUs is an accomplishment for you
It's hard to say how viable Mega Man is until we can play human players. Stuff like the dash attack and the aerials may not work on humans who focus on shielding-and-grab punishing these initiations.
>you have to be a master of video games to beat lvl 9 CPUs
>have to face new challenger on board with fatal stage hazards
>giant pokemon in back of stage one-shots me out of nowhere
>tfw no jigglypuff
Heliumcide for me. Goodbye world.
Auuuuugh, I know exactly what you mean. I'm so used to playing on a GameCube controller that I keep pressing R to grab and pressing the empty space above my A button trying to jump.
Question: How is (non-zero suit) Samus this time around?
>mfw Samus in Brawl
Minor complaint: I'm a little disappointed that Robin's customs aren't different spells. Mjollnir instead of Thoron, Rexcalibur instead of Elwind, etc.
It's a super minor thing that doesn't really matter in the long run, but it could have been cool.
What if every character has 16 palletswaps/costumes in the WiiU version?
I sure hope they do. The two cut Wario costumes are the best ones.
So, uh, since you guys like to call everything a meme...
Puppet fighters are hard. Puppet fighters in Smash's battle system are harder.
I personally see her having really high potential, but she has a much more painful learning curve than most characters.
From what's being said, basically three characters show up, and if you win a match with a character shown, you score points and so forth for them. And likely after a set period of time, the one with most points wins. Also can win prizes this way.
>Not Baby Blue Mario
>Not Ludwig von Koopa
>Not Dark Samus
>Not Leif Marth
>Not Pink Villager
>Not Sun Hat Jiggly
>Not Duck Hunt Dalmatian
>Not Tiki Lucina
>Not Item-1/2/3 or Air Shooter Mega Man
How is it possible to have such shit taste?
Conquest will at least reduce the likelihood of every person you see using ZSS and Bowser, but it's such a flawed concept that it will in reality be very pointless. You'll know who wins as soon as you see the poll options because that's all it is, a poll.
It's already available now. Someone has managed to recreate Mega Man to be ported over one of the MOTHER kids. And though it's not officially in PM and they have no plans about it (since they just want to stick to the official Brawl and Melee roster only I think), you can still do it yourself if you know what codes and files to input.
It's not smash's battle system, it's the wonky controls of the circle pad that make it hard to do anything particularly involved. People will get the hang of it but it's gonna be a lot slower than if they had thumbsticks.
So, is not using buttons to jump really considered a niche thing?
I can do tilts fine without completely removing the ability to jump off of the control stick and have since the first smash bros.
Is it objectively better?
>can't at least change the match setting to Stock
Not just the costume, people have recreated the full moveset. It helps that Mega Man's moveset is pretty simple overall and you don't have to worry about voice clips or anything. And now that the game's out I'm expecting people to update it.
Will it be possible to play local matches demo vs full game? Has anyone tested this?
Namco made Namco High.
John Egbert.To be fair though, at least they could get creative with his moveset. Lots of potential with wind based powers, lots of canon outfits to give him. And honestly... I am a fan of the comic but I would feel very conflicted about ol' Johnny boy making it into Smash.
>you bought the free demo
Serves you right.
Pesudo-Palutena as a clone of Palutena. The difference is that
all of her special moves and custom special moves are completely new. Dark Pit becomes an alt costume for Pit that gets the Wireframe Mac treatment, as well as getting called "Dark Pit" by the announcer.
>Karkat getting into Smash
Not even every other fan request getting in as a compensation would be enough to calm people down. Even worse if he brings the other trolls as assists.
will you be able to transfer coins from the west demo to the full game like you could in the jap demo? Wouldn't surprise me if you couldn't, they fucking hate us enough already to release the game a month after Japan for no other reason than to make nips feel special.
At best I expect Toad though. Smash roster has become a factory conveyor belt of whatever is fresh and popular at the time, along with the token retro character of whatever Sakurai likes.
7/10 - 2 edgy 4 me
God, that would cause a storm of amazing proportions
and I would both love it and hate it. Either way if HS music gets in, hey, we might get some really cool music.
>Paying for a limited-supply digital collector's item that's identical to the regular version of the demo other than lacking a use limit that is easily circumvented by the platform design.
Wanting to play it seven, six, five or even one day early is a decent reason to pay for it, but the actual item is neither unique nor very practical when the game is out two weeks after the demo.
Typing. Like. This. Makes. It. Seem. Like. Your. Computer. Has. Asthma.
And. That. You. Are. A. Fucking. Tumblrfag.
I just realized how fucking crazy of a coincidence it was to get a Rhythm Heaven enemy at around the same time most people were so sure Chorus Kids were happening, especially since it's apparently the only enemy not from a playable series that isn't the Polar Bear.
>Dark Pit's very existence in KIU was based off of Pit's dark alt
>Pit still has his dark alt anyway
>Dark Pit has a Pit alt
>Dark Pit, a character BIRTHED FROM AN ALT, got in over actual characters
>Dark Pit, a straight up clone with nothing unique or special outside him at all aside from his music, which would've been in either way, got in while veterans Ice Climbers, Mewtwo, Snake, Lucas, and Wolf didn't
>DARK PIT EXISTS
Holy fucking hell, holy fucking CHRIST ALMIGHTY, please tell me that he has no competitive viability at least since he's literally, LITERALLY JUST PIT WITH ZELDA'S FINAL SMASH
If anyone was interested in how to unlock stages,
GBA Kirby Stage: Do Kirby's FS in a Multiplayer Match
F-Zero Stage: Play Capt Falcon 3 times
Magicant: Unlock Ness
Balloon Trip: Play Villager 3 times
Warioware: Unlock Wario
Pac Maze: Use Pac-Man in FS in a Match
Flat-Zone(Brawl): Unlock G&W, but you have to clear the first page of challenges to get the second page to get the challenge completed to actually unlock it
Think that's all of them?