>P4DAN delayed until 2015, primarily worked on by P-Studio but Dingo still assisting
>NA release date for P4AU is September 30th, Japan was August 28th, Europe is November
>NA release date for PQ is November 25th, Japan was June 5th, Europe is November 28th
>General Persona Guide
>Persona 1 Guide
>Starter websites to learn:
>Art, Guides, Music and more (Persona only, contains P4U/P4U2 story transcripts and sprite/texture/script rips)
>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads (Persona and SMT)
>P4 Dengeki Comic Anthology
>Persona/SMT image collection
-TRANSLATED MANGA SCANS-
-ARENA PLAYERS MATCHUP DOC-
-P4U2 IMAGE/SOUND/MOVIE/PALETTE RIPS-
-P4U2 NEW MUSIC TRACKS-
-P4U2 English Patch + DLC Unlock- [Retail Ver.]
-P1P Music Unfuck Pre-Patched Iso-
-P4tGA OP/ED CD-
RPGs: the world may never know, P1 had a PC port though
fightan: because BBCT did bad on PC and then they gave up even though P4U2 would undoubtedly sell like hotcakes
wait did this really happen
>Persona Q will never be ported to anything.
>Persona 4 Golden will never be on Ps3
Handhelds are so stupid.
The story sucks shit and you can still use your jap VAs in fights, I don't see what the problem is
People like to complain. It's fun.
we can choose to play the player matches and ranked matches like you can, we just also have lobbies
also why haven't we made any player match lobbies in ultimax? easier than meeting up in tartarus and being like "hey i'm from /pg/"
I know you guys say you wanna bully fuuka, but if she was real, would you really?
Not really. Junpei didn't become a cute grill and then he and his man didn't fly away with all the fall and bloom and fall and bloom.
At least from I remember. It's been a while.
She just merged their personas and gave him her life. It's not the same as merging with someone. I think.
calling something bioware quality already lost all meaning.
Sounds like a personal problem.
>1st playthrough max social link guide
alright this seems doable
>defeat shadow chie on 4/17
>defeat shadow yukiko on 4/18
Moronji was always a lame attempt at recreating the Stupei joke anyway.
Better than actually saying Bakanji
They probably could have got away with it.
anyone playing P4 is at least weeb enough to know what baka means.
If you're in golden, you can waste one more day in the dungeon, you get a few extra days
And don't mind those calling you shitters. The first dungeon is the most difficult by far
>You will never a qt Goddess reincarnation that is madly in love with you.
Real life is such a drag.
Would you entrust the worlds safety to my group?
p4 vanilla, unfortunately. I wouldn't be complaining if it was P4G anyway, they made shadow yukiko vulnerable to ice in P4G - which means if you get mabufu on yu and chie it's a faceroll, because all-out attacks do stupid damage at that stage.
And yea, since my first run through P4 and playing SMTIV I've realized that Atlus cannot into difficulty curve.
Sure. switch out Akihiko for Mitsuru, and you've got the best party.
>mostly naked sword man
>maid with a bow and arrow
>the bastard son of strong bad and TF2's spy
>talking about best party
>when you let yukiko die and have chie and naoto
>putting mitsuru in your party
yeah well, its a long fight.
Thanks for outing yourself
I think you still can lose a single day-just try to make it a day where you can't get school social links.
And all out attacks against Shadow Yukiko do less damage than a bufu spell.
The damage loss is minor compared to the SP cost, especially if you're going for Shadow Yukiko on the 18th (which means you'll be fighting through the miniboss Knight and the trashmobs). Even in Golden you probably want to conserve SP between killing Prince Charming and Shadow Yukiko activating Burn To Ashes, since you've probably used up all your TaP and Soul Drops fighting your way up.
>Didn't bring Aigis, Junpei and
It's like you didn't even consider who had the most to prove
Naoto and her costumes are more worthwhile than Teddie, Yosuke, or Kanji could ever be.
If you care about actual rpg stuff in Golden, you've already fucked up. None of it matters.
>Ken and Junpei
I never picked them to do anything.
Plus you can pick from any of the -dynes.
its a waifu sim. The dungeons are like pointless minigames that break up the VN
best P4 party gogo:
>Teddie: Ice Amp/Ice Boost/Mediarahan/Mabufudyne/Bufudyne/Samarecarm/Matarukaja/Marakukaja
>Yukiko: Fire Amp/Fire Boost/Agidyne/Maragidyne/Salvation/Samarecarm/Fire Break/whatever you want
>Yosuke: Wind Amp/Wind Boost/Magarudyne/Garudyne/Brave Blade/Wind Break/Dekaja/Masukukaja
I'm more of a Yu/Marie guy myself but I can really see the merits of pic related. At least we all agree that Rise and Kanji are best couple 2014
It depends on what I want to do.
> Fighting a boss at endgame?
Yosuke/Chie/Yukiko . I pick Chie over Kanji because of Dragon Hustle and give her that accessory that halves SP consumption.
> Fighting a boss before endgame?
Yosuke/Kanji/Yukiko , although I still use Chie sometimes.
> Clearing floors?
Naoto/Chie/Yukiko , spam phys and instant death spells. Never ever use -dyne spells unless absolutely necessary.
It's not harder, it's just less efficient.
>Yu with auto-mataru, use multi-target physical
>Hama/Mudo if enemy is weak + have SP, otherwise Vorpal Balde
>Chie uses Agneyastra
>Enemy is probably dead by now, if not kill them with Yukiko.
>Yukiko heals party out of battle.
>Minimal SP used
Personally I find Kanji more valuable than Chie at endgame since I keep a persona with 3xauto-mawhatever+debilitate, which makes Dragon Hustle redundant since the enemy dies after maybe six rounds, so you only need to bother to reapply matarukaja (which Kanji can do)
Whether or not you actually ship Kanji and Rise
and in general, you shouldn't really "ship" unless all that means to you is "some of these pictures are cute"the thing is Kanji and Rise actually have a chemistry together. That doesn't have to mean romance, it just means they actually interact. They can do things together. Kanji's relationship or lack thereof goes nowhere. Their entire thing is that she barely realizes he exists and Kanji can hardly say two words to her.
Well there are only three major boss fights at endgame. Marie, which is a special fight with its own rules, Margaret which is a long and involved fight, and Izanami. You can kill Izanami blazingly fast, maybe in six turns but most would not. So really its only Margaret that matters. And Dragon Hustle is undoubtedly useful against her. Evasion is important as is defense in making that fight as easy as possible.
Hell, the only time I can think of when Naoto and Kanji interact besides them meeting initially is that one tiny event where it's raining and Kanji and Yosuke don't have umbrellas.
Yeah, that's true. But how many times do you get to pull off Dragon Hustle with Chie, with Chakra Ring and her using SP to power charge, maybe three? Do the benefits of three dragon hustles outweigh Kanji's superior damage output or Yosuke's long-term buff consistency? I'm not sure.
No shit. But Naoto doesn't reciprocate it and the two barely speak to each other.
Still cute though.
Naoto is embarassed by failure and would have blushed at falling on anyone.
The constant hints are that Kanji likes her. They're not even hints, it's the game basically telling you over and over HE LIKES HER. But she doesn't return the favor. And they don't do anything. "He likes her" is not chemistry. That requires the two of them to meaningfully interact, not for him to stare at her from a distance while she sleeps, like all blonde haired people in Persona.
The ski trip looked to me like it was clearly poking fun at the fanbase with their shipping. That being said, I was pleased with the Atlus pairings, because best girl was paired with Yu.
> Do the benefits of three dragon hustles outweigh Kanji's superior damage output or Yosuke's long-term buff consistency?
Well I use Yosuke in boss fights. As for Kanji, I think it does outweigh it when you consider all the wasted turns casting ma-kaja spells.
But to each his own.
I think you're simplifying things. That wasn't an "oh my, I'm sorry for crashing into you" blush, it was a "I crashed into a guy who I like and am embarrassed about it" blush
I think she even averts her eyes. Read between the lines.
I think you need to take your shipper glasses off. Naoto is a typical Japanese female, which means they avoid close contact with people. She fucking freaks when the girls touch her in the bath house, so accidentally crashing into a dude is even worse.
That being said, you are over analyzing things.
I thought we already established that Naoto is the most proactive when it comes to getting regular helpings of Yu cock, but she's althe the least in-your-face about it.
>Shippingfags actually believe shit like this
Yukiko is the blandest potato of the bunch.
If you're talking about Naoto being with anyone and not dying miserable and alone, then you better believe it's not 'already established'.
I'm just saying, the girl's lewd as fuck
>talking about Yu ships
Step aside irrelevant fanon
And I like Marie too. It's like all my favorite girls in P4 get the most screen time and shipping bait with Yu even though Chie & Naoto are the most popular with weirdos.
People weren't joking when they said Marie was Atlus's Lighting. I blame Tadashi, he started this insert shit.
NO Kagutsuchi. The not Nyarly of the game.
The child born from Marie.
Pure as rotting flesh filled with maggots.
Sho is Ikutsuki's adopted son. Ikutsuki shoved a plume of dusk into him to force him to manifest a Persona. Instead the ego in the plume of dusk awoke, and manifested a Persona, while Sho remained without, though he did devlop a penchant for violence. Ikutsuki declared the whole thing a failure and disowned Sho.
Sho is edgeman and wants the world to end to create a new world just for him because he's sad. Minazuki, the ego in the plume of dusk, thinks that's a brilliant idea and encourages this and helps out. The make a deal with a being called Kagutsuchi to end the world and shit. Kagutsuchi needs persona power(tm) to manifest in the real world.
Shock and horror, Kagutsuchi was using them the whole time and is just going to destroy the world, including Sho. Adachi and Yu ascend a false Tartarus with some other irrelevant characters and merge their Izanagis into a sword and kill Kagutsuchi.
Every guy who wants to fuck Yu.
No Ikutsuki tried to down Sho because Minazuki tried to kill Ikutsuki for manipulating and using Sho.
Ikutsuki himself mentions that Sho was a shadow killing machine before the plume of dusk as well.
Also they were living in Inaba and it was boring as shit until the murders happen and then Sho watched and was entertained.
Nothing is canon, but there are some things that don't exist even in nothingness.
Like the animes, FeMC, Kanji x Naoto or Yosuke x Chie ever being canon, etc.
Sukukaja/Sukunda + Makarakarn
Have a persona that nulls phys (Shiki-Ouji is one around that level).
What the hell are you doing
>If you take part of me, take all of me
>Sharing body heat doesn't work, let's share body heat
>A maid in a house would serve the needs of many, but I would only serve yours
>This outfit is so revealing, can't we save it until we're in private?
>I wore this girl's uniform because I thought you'd like it
>That sure was fun getting our fortunes, do you want to come over to my empty house and get it on Senpai
>Tell me more about yourself Senpai
Are all things that happen in the game
>on a bossfight
she better have some elemental skills or else she's dead weight nigga
at what point are you losing? before the first quad convergence (2/3 hp)? before control (1/3hp)? before 1000hp (unerring justice spam)?
This is my first time playing Golden but I played Vanilla years ago.
I'm struggling just getting him down enough to use quad coverage. Everyone's moves are doing 100~ each time which is a lot lower than any other shadow.
I'll try dropping Naoto for Chie now, and I just got Shiki-Ouji, I wouldn't expect that to work with frequent he uses wind.
Make sure you keep either masukukaja up on everyone or sukunda up on him, along with matarukaja and rakunda. Have power/mind charge up as often as you can.
Make sure you have makarakarn/magic mirror up on Yu before he uses quad converge. Have everyone except Yu guard on the turn he uses quad converge to scout out what the element change is.
As long as quad converge is active, only the element he uses against you will have any effect. Swap to a persona that resists or nulls that element. If one of your party members is weak to that element, have them guard, and if it's Yukiko, have someone else acting as backup healer (either Teddie or items).
Quad converge resets after about three turns.
When he's at about 1/3 health, swap to Shiki-Ouji.
>I'm struggling just getting him down enough to use quad coverage
he shouldn't be killing you before quad convergence. How is he killing you? Lucky masomethingdyne into one more into total party kill?
Fuse something with Mediarahan (and Samarecarm to boot - Ishtar has both), put it on the protagonist, and go to town.
Both Teddie and Yukiko should have strong heals and Samarecarm by this point though.
Check if you have a ring that improves healing and put it on teddie. Otherwise, check if Yukiko has 'Divine grace' and use her.
Also, spam makrakarns: the element it casts is the one that odes most damage to it so it ends up killing itself. You can and should use it as well
So can we expect anything new from the Persona Stalker Club thing tomorrow?
Sorry, it's hard to say with a straight face.
they wanted to go the BB CSE route where people had their own individual stories, but it makes more sense there because of time loops and people actually doing shit. In p4a all you need to do is like play Yu/Aegis/Labrys/Liz story modes and you're done. You can find out what happens to kanji/teddie/naoto just through other modes, its just a waste of time
I'm expecting a full reveal of Persona 5. A deep look into its plot and cast.
That's a perfectly reasonable expectation.
I think we should go into total meltdown on /pg/ if that fails to come to pass.
Also, a release date. And a playable demo.
I actually felt kind of bad for that stalker duo at TGS. Cause I'm sure they'd LIKE to have shown something that pleased the crowd watching but it wasn't their call to make. And when it cut to the crowd there was so much disappointment evident. You could kind of see the reaction in their faces when they were saying goodbye like "man the people watching us are really disappointed."
>all pre-orders and a limited first production run will include a collectible Teddie bop bag and set #1 of the iconic Persona 4 tarot cards
sega always does this shit.
fuck you sega.
you guys are too hard on ultimax. general consensus im getting from reviews is that gameplay is improved, shadow characters are fun and the story is pretty good. This game should've been the finale for P4 not that ddr bullshit
For it to not go full retard and end with adachi and yu fusing their izanagis into a sword to kill destroy-the-world-no-okami, and for the characters to in general be written a little better
especially mitsuru. what a wreck
>Sho's practically confirmed to be appearing in the future
Sho, SEES, and most of IT are going to join the P1/2 casts in the irrelevant pile.
Yu and Yosuke will get a quick cameo somewhere, Teddie will show up in some mainline game, and someone will show up in a cutscene with Chies jacket or Naotos hat.
>He's confirmed as a future VR guest along with Liz
which means nothing.
P3 and 4 won't be discarded until after they've finished milking the 3, 4, and 5 trilogy
>which means nothing
no it doesn't, it means they'll be future VR guests. VR guests are important characters, you don't get named a future VR guest and then just ignored forever after
You're delusional, dude
Not just atonement. Mitsuru gets one section to fight in P3 and then has to be saved because she's too damn tired after being crucified for the longest time. The others get rescued earlier and help out the teams. Mitsuru is only in Ultimax to be rescued on both sides and to talk about Sho's backstory. She got screwed
I honestly doubt it. I fully expect more milking from IT and SO but its far too early to say P5 is going to be milked
They have the clear color themes between them, P3 and P4 have already had crossover, and with them being owned by Sega there's no way they won't milk the previous games some more by having all three crossover later.
i doubt liz will show up again, it's just "i'll never give up trying to revive MC even if it takes hundreds of years", which probably means it will take hundreds of years
i don't think sega exercises that much authority over them/gives a shit
>clear color themes between them
just like the p2, p3, and p4 triology
give me the pepperoni yu namba
Sho, Minazuki, SLab, Margaret, and Marie navigators.
Also the announcer is bugged and says "Margaret" instead of "Amada and Koromaru" when playing Ken. Not sure how prominent it is since I don't main him, but it's happening for me in Arcade mode.
This could either the best thing ever or really really shit.
>tfw no Ikutsuki navigator
how could you do this to me atlus
Yosuke is the best team mate though. Thats not saying much though since all of the IT is shit
>best team mate
>A creepy pervert who is also homophobic and shit to any member of the IT who is not Yu.
it doesn't matter how much you dislike everyone else, Yosuke is objectively the shittiest.
But I love being homophobic. It's my favourite hobby. I enjoy being homophobic with Yosuke together as I fondle his balls in the sauna.
Perverts are the best, and its not fair to call him homophobic, he's just playfully uncomfortable with Kanji, its not like he hates him for being presumably homosexual.
Plus he has the best battle stance.
I fucking love the characters and story of P2,but the battles are really a pain in the ass and they take a lot of time.
Is there a place where i can watch P2 or does anyone here have cheat codes that make the game a bit more fun to play.
Also have a picture of the best girl.
After Jun of course.
I always found it interesting that while Izanami was confirmed a god,Izanagi was merely a persona.
>playing first Persona game
I have no idea what I'm doing. I don't really understand the combat system at all. I just tend to go Skills -> AoE Power. I tend to get destroyed if I don't kill everything on the field in two or so turns.
Just arrange your party in a way everyone gets a chance to hit someone. Exp there is gained by amount of damage dealt so letting someone whore all the exp's gonna end up crippling your team.
When do you get handout Personas in Persona 2 IS and how often? Is there something I have to do to aqcuire them? The FAQ says I can beat the game without ever going to the velvet room and just relying on handouts.
But since you're clearly the superior fan you won't be a retard and just shut the fuck up about it, right? Because if you're so bothered you can always NOT buy it. Fight the system, be the difference you want to see in the world, y'know?
I like the dub but your right it was bad for them to remove it
>"Atlus is doomed! Abandon ship!"
I don't think they are doomed or anything. But it's a fact they are deep in the fanservice and making things easy for casuals. They are a small company that suddenly got some success, so it's only natural. But it's there. They already make P4 a safer P3. P5 has a lot of chances of being an even safer P4, if that's possible. Not that it can't be a good game, but not as good as it could.
I can see where you're coming from, but I would seriously never expect anything less than an easy casual-fest in Persona. The whole point of the series from the start was to make a more accessible JRPG and entry point to MT. I would like a little more challenge too but it was never going to happen.
All I want is the removal of bonuses in Social Links for bringing a matching persona with you. Having to run to the Velvet Room before every SLink to fetch Sandman or Asparas or some other shit early game Persona isn't fun, even more so when you'll have to resummon your main party for a shitton of money.
>I kept offering him items and he ran away! This is bullshit fuck this game
demon negotiations are ez nigga you just gotta figure it out
it's a lot better than hoping to get a shuffle time, then hoping you get the persona you need, then hoping input lag doesn't fuck you over
There's nothing to figure out. In SMT they're completely random and in Persona they're always the same and so you just memorize them and put in the same answers every single time.
>In SMT they're completely random
except they're not, you can influence demons to join you by answering their questions correctly, by giving them items up to a point, and by ending negotiations at the right time to show you're nobody's bitch
>in Persona they're always the same and so you just memorize them and put in the same answers every single time.
I'm not sure you know what you're talking about anymore
People dont use him because they got attached to Mitsuru or Yukari.
Xth for the best character in the Persona series.
You're second, Tat-chan.
Look at their forums or any comments on siliconera, their own youtube channel and so on.
They have enough drones to keep them afloat that eat up that shit.
I'd rather they didn't localize games at all if they're so incompetent with it, and instead have SEGA do it.
SEGA at least never censors shit and offers multi audio.
It also never shits on Europe.
You sure seem mad over nothing. Since it's been stated that the game would be region free "no dual audio" was pretty much confirmed as an anti-importing measure for the japanese fans. Oh but you can't possibly see past your "weh atlus USA sux u mindless drones!!!!" argument to think about that possibility, can you?
>as an anti-importing measure for the japanese fans
It's already being released later. Most Persona fans would buy it on release. Only a few stingy ones would wait. And those may not even care about English voices, if they already don't care about English text. And they could use regionblock on Japan.
Avoiding Japanese fans buying games from American is a stupid excuse.
>most of the sexy demons in P1 are haughty and/or wise sluts
>Nanjo can negotiate with them the best
I always found that hilarious. Reiji's prestigate option was my second option. Bitches love magic tricks.
not officially no but atlus put the entire english script in for some reason
so to say "oh, we're actually going to REMOVE the other voices and text for the other regions" is completely stupid
>so the japanese versions are technically full dual audio but the other versions won't be
What the fuck does that have to do with text?
Jap versions are dual audio and that's undisputed fact, whereas English are not.
Yeah, that's my point. The other versions won't be dual audio, even though the japanese version is. That means that Atlus would actually be removing stuff present in the japanese version
I'm sorry anon
Instead of whining about it, why don't you fags just import the Jap version?
Whats the difference between the PSN and Retail copies of TUUSH anyways? I remember there used to be a PSN and Retail patch but aren't they the same game, just one downloaded and the other bought from a store?
i pre-ordred ultimax on amazon instead of at gamestop so i wouldn't have to ask to pick up a game with a shirtless anime dude on the cover
i hope the shipping doesn't take too long cause i really wanna play
I pre-ordered at gamestop. But now I'm just scared they won't actually get the game in store until like a week after release date like with Blazblue. I hope your game comes soon comrade.
Going to go pick it up tomorrow morning and wear my Junes shirt while I'm at it.
i wish my courage stat was as high as yours, anon
huh. y'know, i think i'll feel a little bit better about picking stuff like this up in the future. thanks guys.
I have just finished P4G and don't understand one thing - why does the culprit say "Dammit, again?" in the fog scenes, when he already knew that the kidnapped people were saved and aren't in the TV world anymore?
As someone that worked retail for many years no one honestly cares as long as you don't come into the store smelling like week old trash. I once had a guy come into my store 5 minutes before closing to buy a tv and he was legit 300 pounds with sweat stains everywhere just from walking from the entrance.
Persona is pretty normalfag nowadays anyway.
I wanted to do Margaret Rank 4 Neko-Shogun with bufula. I saw that one way to do so is make Emperor King Frost (Bufula) + Magician Hua Po = Strength Kusi Mitama (Bufula) first however my King Frosts bufula transformed to mabufula because of one of the shuffle time persona cards. What am i superposed to do?
...and? if they can inherit bufula they can inherit mabufula
You realize Nyx was in P1 right?
and the mad scientists at Kirijo were doing pretty much the same thing that the NWO was doing in EP, but without the Joker stuff on the side.
So i bought the psn version of ultimax and on my us account is says "the content is not available before the start date" which is understandable but when i start it on my EU account it says something about "copyright protection information is invalid"
Should i worry or is this just because of the preload? I wouldnt be super happy about having to play on an american account but it wouldnt really make sense