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Be completely honest. If you were hanging around this smooth ass all day, totally naked, where you see its supple form every time he's facing away from you or to the side, would you really not be masturbating heavily?
What a coincidence! I am not a demon. I am a person, just like you.
Because he knows it's against the established way of doing things here and he knows it irritates everybody. People that choose to like things, or choose to do things exclusively because it pisses off someone else need to be killed.
Law: Only makes a new thread after old thread 404's
Neutral: Makes a thread when old thread is at page 9 and after bump limit.
Chaos: Makes a thread as soon as the thread is past bump limit.
Faggot: Makes a thread randomly in the middle
Double Faggot: Makes a thread with an edition
Why is it still called Megami Tensei when the only recentish games that have the rebirth, return or awakening of a goddess as a central point are Strange journey and a spinoff series that doesn't even have the megami tensei in it's name?
Most infortunate for Atlus too, I have other games to play now.
well have fun with whatever you're playing dude.
SMT: Devil Children Red/Black have you revive the Goddess from her ancient slumber.
SMT: Devil Children White has the Angels awaken her omnicidal Dark-Law opposite.
Amaterasu, Ishtar, Goddess of Tokyo, and Lady Danu are all "revived" during IV. Granted some of them use a loose term for revival since one is sealed, another is a human who will become them, and the other two are legit revived.
Also Sophia from NINE.
Why can't Law and Chaos just settle down with a normal, human girl?
Also, why does Isabeau have so little fanart compared to Jonathan/Walter?
Because she's an indecisive tool.
Most human girls are.
>Random side character
What? She was the entire reason the game could happen in the first place.
Why not? She already had goddess associaions.
Her goddess abandoned her when she decided she didn't want to leave with her.
At best I could see Demi-Fiend choosing Freedom somehow making Aradia a legit goddess, but they never say such a thing.
While on the other hand, any and all view points and opinions are inevitably unoriginal, and aligned in any way; as such Neutral is the only way anybody can have their own opinion that isn't already claimed by the alignments, while ironically being unoriginal and encompassing in itself.
The very idea of alignments applying to opinions and viewpoints that people can have on here is paradoxical in and of itself.
Here's my logic on this:
>People "need" their "own opinion" else they'll be labelled as "faggots who copy other people's opinions"
>All opinions are liable to be labelled as unoriginal or of a certain alignment
>To have your "own opinion", you need to not subscribe to any alignment, or to subscribe to an idea that isn't aligned in the first place
>Neutral is anti-Law and anti-Chaos by default, the 'grey area"
>Majority of people on here are Neutrals
>Want own opinion
>Be Law or Chaos
>Opinions already taken by others
>Majority is already Neutral, get your own opinion faggot, etc. etc.
>"implying not having an opinion is better than having one"
>All sides lead to getting fucked over opinion-wise
So shouldn't it be better to have any opinion at all, regardless of whether other people already think the same, or not?
Who's the best SMT guy? Heat, the answer is Heat.
>not making Gale an honorable mention
>successful, handsome young man with girlfriend
>genuinely good person, devout to helping others
>gives his life to save the Hero
>comes back as a soul to warn the Hero about the robot menace
He even realises his fate upon his second death, and mourns over having become YHVH's puppet.
No you go to the Goumaden and then formulas. then you pick your desired race of demon and can choose the target 3 races you want to use to make that demon. If one of the ingredients to make THAT demon doesn't show up in the results section then do the formulas again searching for that demon's race.
If you want a megami, diety, etc you have to do quite a bit for it.
So let me get this straight.
The world used to be the playground of demons, the original inhabitants of the planet. Then the strongest demons around, namely YHVH and the Mother Goddesses, decided to create humanity. YHVH created their bodies and Mem Aleph birthed their souls. The purpose for humanity was to be Magnetite farms in the form of worshipers of their demon Gods.
Then YHVH managed to sneak some of his influence into the the souls of humanity, and his flock became larger than any other demon's. Using his power he collectively kicked the asses of every other demon in the world and cursed them with a hideous appearance so that mortals would no longer go to them in worship. Then, content that the humans all worshiped him, he sealed off the human world from the demons. Now the Gods and Goddesses of the old world are stuck in the Abyss and require rituals and sources of Magnetite to be summoned and retain physical form in the human world. The grander the demon the more lavish the preparations and resources necessary to summon and maintain them.
But YHVH made a mistake in assuming that everyone would keep worshiping him forever, and after he banished everyone he stopped paying attention to the human world. Only for it to slowly drift to a world full of strife, waiting for someone to cause some form of apocalypse.
Through the Amala Network, there are an infinite number of worlds with this backstory. While these worlds can birth individual unique demons, such as Aradia, the mighty one-of demons such as YHVH and Lucifer are wholly unique yet universal. The difference between each world in the Amala Network are the choices of humanity, since humanity are the only ones with the true potential for free will. And maybe Lucifer.
After I deal with Echidna/Law hero? I met up with Law Hero and he forced me into helping him so I reloaded and went to TDL first.
Let's hope that killing both will set me back to neutral.
>killing both will set me back to neutral.
You can go back to neutral but he doesn't force you into helping him, you helped him for a reason, you have a lot of law points, the only way to go back to neutral or go chaos is playing the mini game in tokyo destiny land, there's a mini game there that changes your alignment but you can only play it so many times, but yeah it's right after Haniel and Echidna, why neutral? Are you a neutral fag? The neutral ending is pretty meh in this game.
Ok fags, i'm gonna explain this once and only once, YHVH is part of the great will, the great will has nothing to do with the mother goddess, Echidna told you Demiurge's story, she probably lies to you to convince you that YHVH is evil, it's clearly said in many SMT games that YHVH is an/a agent/part of the great will.
Except in other games they are the same thing.
Even a NPC in Nocturne calls Metatron the voice of the universe and a servant of the Great Will.
She's not lying either, in SJ the Four Tyrants were demonized, and could only take their true forms in Sector Fornax. Likewise the mothers were worshiped in the past until YHVH became too powerful and trampled the Goddess worshiping world.
Then the Three Wise Men, who exist beyond the reaches of time and are one with the earth, reveal YHVH's agenda has always been to brainwash all of humanity like in the Law ending.
And the Demiurge is an avatar of YHVH, as shown in IV, while the other one in SJ is a piece of him.
There are however exceptions.
Last Bible Demons are monsters, and their thoughts influence the world just like humans. God is generally an okay guy in those, with Lucifer as a well intentioned guy in the first game and the only Gaia Master who doesn't antagonize you at some point.
Brahman is he God of DDS and is the ruler of his own world, with YHVH having no control.
The Administrators are the "God" of the DeSu2 verse, and are a race of aliens who eventually pass the throne over to another. Polaris is basically alien YHVH, including being an arrogant dick.
And Devil Children has a Goddess named Hoshigami who created the universe from the void and defeated her Vile counterpart Jashin. Demons, Humans, and Angels are meant to be equals and none of that magnetite bullshit applies. Demons and Angels are born, grow old, and die, with some exceptions like Lucifer. There are also entities born from the strife/suffering of both humans and demons and want to make them all suffer equally.
This timeline is not completely accurate, and there should be a theory around the SJ and IV part.
Technology from one game showing up in another is not unheard of at all in the series, including games that have no connections.
Likewise Majin Tensei I+II take place in the same world, with Ogiwara being the Hero and Heroine's child.
The YHVH being in pieces doesn't make sense. The Mothers did that. Not Demi-Fiend.
Also If... Hazama's Chapter is an alternate take on the events of If...
Plus Atlus is really weird about If... Several timelines have it take place in the SMT timeline, and they were made around or after P1+P2.
Several ''creators''(Hoshigami, Brahma, etc..) could just be interpreted as if they were demoniac sponsor like in nocturne right? Demiurge being YHVH is super unclear but i believe he isn't, the alien gods of DeSu 2 might just be saying that they created the universe when they didn't, like many entities in other SMT games.
The Demiurge is a Godly Spirit, aka a shard of YHVH. He's usually the most self-important of YHVH's avatars.
The alien Gods didn't create the universe. They oversee it and can delete it. Polaris even implies that there are other things beyond just humanity, and if humanity failed his trial then he planned on leaving humanity and the earth deleted for good. As humanity had yet to fail the trial he is putting us in the recycle bin, but if we truly fail then he empties it.
The aliens never once say they made it, but they are described as the closest thing DeSu2 has to "God".
The Demiurge IS YHVH. They outright say he's an avatar gone rogue, and many of YHVH's avatars are his names. Demiurge and YHVH are the same thing in Gnosticism. Only Kuzuryu is the exception to his avatars, and he didn't become one until the Playstation version of SMTII.
I can't say whether they are demonic sponsors, especially since demons don't run on belief/magnetite/human brains at all in Devil Children, and in DDS they are a person's true self rather than being separate entities. Only in the Sun is the data of demons found. Some like Satan and the reincarnated Four Archangels are implied to be from another universe.
Have you even played DeSu2?
The universe in that game works very differently than in other megaten games.
Polaris didn't "make" the universe, he is the being that is maintaining the akashic record, ie maintaining the universe.
The whole premise of the game is Polaris erasing universe from existence bit by bit until the remaining humans can reach a consensus of what kind of world they want to replace it with.
Or you can just say fuck you to Polaris and replace him with Alcor
Godlys aren't shards of YHVH. They are beings he shapes to follow his will for the most part. Of course some like Kuzuryu have no mind of their own, and Demiurge went rogue and believed he was YHVH.
The one in SJ is a shard of YHVH, but that was because the Mothers beat YHVH and smashed him into bits.
Though I have to wonder what the deal is with Yaldabaoth in NINE, since they pull a SMTII and have him as final boss on every route.
Ok, now i got it, thanks for explaining guys, it's a shame that SMT wasn't written in a way that games don't contradict each other, having multiple universes is fine as long as they don't screw the logic behind the others.
I find it interesting that when Alcor explains who he is (he gave humans knowledge and interacted with them in the past), you can ask him if he is God, and he will say that, in a way, he is the God mankind worships.
>Godlys aren't shards of YHVH. They are beings he shapes to follow his will for the most part. Of course some like Kuzuryu have no mind of their own, and Demiurge went rogue and believed he was YHVH.
Yes, they are. That's why they dissolve like Satan did when YHVH kicks the bucket. Not to say they can't grow uppity and decide to be more than just a shard like Lucifer did and Demiurge tries to.
And in his route he basically becomes Father Earth.
>So would YHVH
Kuzuryu is not even Godly in the original SMT2, just a Drake, and is stated to be YHVH's weapon of mass destruction, dormant under the earth.
I guess he can count as Godly since he strictly "belongs" to Him, though. Just like Satan, who is a more or less independent part of YHVH like Lucifer was in the past (he says this in the SMT1 Chaos ending, and SMT2).
The three avatars that you fight in Eden (Sabaoth, Shaddai and Elohim) are definitely part of YHVH, that's for sure.
The point is that if he didn't participate in the battle with YHVH he would be alive later and just fine. By personally turning against his master and trying to strike him down he was destined to die as punishment for going against him. It just takes time before it happens. Just like Aleph didn't immediately die to suffer his eternal punishment that YHVH inflicts on him.
I know he was Drake. That's why I mentioned him being Godly in the later version.
Lucifer pretty much says without him to control it Kuzuryu will go berserk, which it does in the Neutral route.
>The point is that if he didn't participate in the battle with YHVH he would be alive later and just fine.
That's complete headcanon. All we know is that Satan died when YHVH died.
What are you talking about? Never seen YHVH do what? The hypothetical was that if Satan hadn't rebelled against his creator, YHVH wouldn't have died.
>Megami Tensei II
>If choosing to side with YHVH, Lucifer is immediately struck down with the eternal flame, and the hero and his companion are invited to YHVH's Millennium Kingdom. The epilogue mentions that the world infested with malice disappears, while the hero and his companion are transformed into gods.
Will we ever have so beautiful an ending again?
Except by this logic if YHVH had been killed and thus been 'judged' by Aleph alone then Satan would have still disappeared. Which was the entire point of this.
The reason Satan crumbles is because there is no one left to judge. It would happen regardless of whether or not he's the reason the guilty got destroyed.
So his death has nothing to do with YHVH's death beyond the fact that he had no one left to judge. Meaning even if YHVH does die his avatars will still exist if they still serve a purpose.
I want to fuck
I'm getting worried. I really hope he's alright.
Persona 1 and Devil Summoner 1 both take place in 1996, while Soul Hackers and Persona 2 each take place at varying points in 1999.
please tell me those fuckers are worth whatever i am getting
also is keilash going to give me something good later on?
look in the rooms where the moving platforms lead
Words cannot describe how fucking salty I am right now, but I'll try.
>Finally have enough money and time to go and buy that one copy of DDS1 that's within 3 miles of my house
>$20, great price for good condition
>Some fucker came and bought it within 2 weeks of checking the website to see if it was there.
>WITHIN 2 FUCKING WEEKS
>Now have all this money to save up
Any of you been through Fate bullshitting you like this before? Share your stories.
time to kill nr 3 of the chucklesquad
>Game called Digital Devil Saga
>Doesn't buy the Digital version.
What's wrong with you?
Bosses that love to use ailments are so aggravation to fight, yet so satisfying to defeat.
you are the demons
>are so aggravation
How did I mess that up?
why ? it may be hard mode and i have keilash digested but yurlungur is eating his dragon eye turns really good
and there the fucker goes
easiest one so far
now where the fuck is that other red teleporter so i can get the last one of the guardians and get my null all
forget it fuck me i´m retarded
it´s on the opposite side of the yellow teleporter at the beginning
My preferred one for now is Isabeau.
We really need more art of her...
do i have to fight all 4 of them as 1 fight or is he just hard?
>titfucking Isaboo's flat
You have excellent taste, anon.
oh hey its this guy again
he was the fire guy right?
it always geminds me of that GALO song
dunno not so hard i guess
try the /int/ wiki they got some good sources for learning it or /t/
Who said I wanted to titfuck her? I just want to
cuddle with her all day
On the other hand, one girl that I'd love to have titfuck me AND one that I'd love to cuddle with would have to be Argilla.
That's if she doesn't eat my dick.
anon you were right this guy was one tough motherfucker
killed 3 of my healers and had to whip out überpixie
>came to say hi
so you killed the 4 devas just for shit´s n giggles
>Privodence or whatever it was
Shit was brutal for me. I never even got as far as the Kalpas as you (I didn't have der uberpixie with me). Took like 10-12 tries for me (around level 50 iirc).
Enjoy Masokados, anon! You feel like a king with it.
i´m lvl 77 or something
he spammed alot of tarukajas and hit me with phys attacks with maragidyne
first turn was brutal tho with 4x makakaja and mediolaon
time to get back to the tower and kill Io i guess
already have that hee of aho in my team
>Not liking short girls
>Not liking short girls
>Not liking short girls
>Not liking short girls
ARE YOU INSANE? WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?JESUS CHRIST I'M NOT EVEN JOKING, WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU? I'M WORRIED AND HORRIFIED, DUDE, WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?
>caring this much about other people's tastes
Too much work to fuse Betatron, but here's how to do it.
okay, so for metatron, start with any angel, it doesn't terribly matter which just the highest level angel you have. just keep keleving it up and evolving it, and it should turn into Uriel. fuse Uriel with a Dominion to make Raphael. Fuse Raphael with a Throne to make Gabriel. Fuse Gabriel, Raphael, and Uriel together (any order) to make Michael. Fuse Michael with any Tyrant to make Metatron.
For Beelzebub, combine Gurr with Shiva or Vishnu. Shiva is the usual Rangda+Barong. Gurr is go to fuse a Sparna, but sacrifice a tyrant, Vishnu is Shiva+Metatron, if I remember right.
If you can't fuse something it means you havn't beaten it's boss fight yet. If something won't evolve, your MC needs to be a higher level.
Huh, Wikipedia said the average here is 8cm taller.
Most men around my age are still taller than me, though. Wikipedia listed people with an average age of 20, maybe the list you posted counts the whole population.
>actually going through the trouble to fuse Betatron when you could just use a team full of fiends
>Magic and Agility build, decent Vit to keep him alive
>100% Total Annihilation
Which one? Care to post it?
You should really be skill cracking more, then. It's OP as FUCK on the right people.
Atsubro is one of them.
Having seeming contradictions is what makes it good though. Since you have to decide which, if any characters are lying to you, or whether its all part of a big whole that's being told in roundabout ways.
>thread about creep shit
>someone posts the East area voice recording
>wait a mi-
You're about 15-20 levels too low for Beelzy. Actually, was it Human or Fly form? Human form's pretty easy as long as you keep his Makakajas under control. Fly form's best tackled around lvl 55-60, and you NEED Null Death.
>coming from the future.
>IV still isn't out in europe.
>Atlus launches nukes to europe to finally get rid of those fuckers once and for all.
Good.Now download, patch, and play II.
I dont plan on going NG+.
I wanna do it all in one go.
Demifiend sometime in the future.
Almost beat him but he used Makakaja and killed my party with one Megidolaon.
I was using Dekaja but sadly i only had it in a combo with Argilla and Cielo.
Man i'm still getting used to this 3 people party thing.
Should i go level up in the Temple of Karma?
And return once i'm maybe level 70?
No point grinding in the Karma Temple, it's too slow. Try the Titania Hallway in Manipura Sewers. It's not far from the first Large Karma Terminal, and the only things that show up in it are Titania and the rare Arahabaki reinforcements. Also, Omoikane. Excellent source of Cells, cash and EXP, and the Arahabaki also drop Vital Noise occasionally.
Also, Demi-fiend is NG+ onry.
O well, my recomendation is go advance the story and reach the top of the final dungeon. You should be at level 55+ by then and more than enough level to deal with Beelzebub Fly form and the others barring Huang Long.
As that anon said you need null death, better begin grinding those mantras.
Thanks going there right now(sewers),since it gives lots of EXP.
Also,shouldn't the Titanias do more damage considering they're in their natural habitat?
>Also,shouldn't the Titanias do more damage considering they're in their natural habitat?
No, why would they? They should barely live long enough to maybe fire off a Debilitate, if they manage to get the first turn. Also, Tentarafoo is your friend there, since they're resistant to magic. It's only called Titania Hallway because they're the only things that spawn there.
Also, take some Magic Reed. Encounter rates are low in the hallway.
Not really that name is one given by fans not that its actually called Titania hallways.
I would. But name Tatsuya something funny.
She is okay
Pixie still best fairy
Need more lewds please.
Status update on Nocturne Second Playthrough
Just beat Amala Network Part 2
Specter pls die
Pale Rider is on my hit list next
Grinding demons/macca and progressing in 3rd Kalpa after
Demons to fuse as soon as I grind my current ones up until they can't learn any other skills:
>Atavaka (Dionysus + Power)
>Shadow (Phantom + Aquans)
>Okuninushi (Koumoku + Flaemis)
>Parvati (Kushinada + Erthys)
That's all for now. Goodnight everyone!
Do not have more Titani but i still have more lewds.
Save oftem and kill them fast, mahama works pretty well.
Otherwise use all that money to buy stuff and fusion later in the game you get special forma to sell lots of money also besides pretas there is only one another enemy that uses it but you can avoid that demon
Dont have much of them, every Megaten artist is doing Persona shit.
What a damn shame...
Would rather see more...art...in this style: >>82311081
or similar to it, you know?
Anon you are best bro.
You're up there with Atsubro and Daisoubro
Don't know if you're the same anon, but
you're both bros. Thanks.
Also, curious if the same person who drew this (>>82311081) drew similar art. Link if you have it?
Okay. Here we have the buddhism study guide. I attempted to compress things down as much as possible so that a total newcomer could look though and get a fairly substantial understanding of the core tenets, as well as distinctions between sects, and even a few more obscure topics enough to convey a reasonable acquaintance.
This is of course very relevant to smt, in that much of smt is based on Buddhist cosmology (though obviously reinterpreted, and mixed with other beliefs), especially the place of the demons relative to humans, and the world-systems. It also of course includes explanations of some demons who show up in smt, and more importantly their place in the Buddhist world-system.
First time seeing one of your posts.
Im the same but it has been years since i got that image, cant help.
I-I'm sorry, anon. I need to find pictures
someone explain this to me
explain why there are so
Looks like man's laws have failed once again.
>kills and eat a dutch girl ends up being a sub celebrity at home,doing porn and traveling the world with some hot lesbian junkies
At last I truly see we've been living in a world of strength all this time.