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Why has there never been a good chaos ending in the history of the series
Because it has to deal with the reality that its "ideology" is something that only frat boys actually think is good, so its hard to represent it in any way but retarded. I'll be lenient and say that both desus had at least reasonable chaos ends though.
>forget that an enemy has Marin Karin
>four of my demons die because I had autobattle on and still don't know how to cancel it
>30,000 macca down the drain reviving, summoning, and healing them
Thanks bipedal leopards with swords
To laugh at idiots who haven't achieved enlightenment yet like you.
Law is absolute. It doesn't care whether an individual is lawful or not, it ensures that law is maintained regardless. This is an analogue to Flynn and Merkabah sacrificing themselves at the end of IV's Law ending and a metaphor for my miscarriage
>This is an analogue to Flynn and Merkabah sacrificing themselves at the end of IV's Law ending and a metaphor for my miscarriage
Playing SJ and chaos would't sound so bad if the demons actually wanted to co-exist and not just eat humans. Law is plain and simple brain washing holy shit, is DeSu1 the only game that had a good law ending? Only the really fucked up humans that have no remorse get screwed.
Also SJ2 when? I really enjoyed the difficulty of this game and loved how all the bosses tend to be pretty hard.
On that note, why does the game try to make me feel about he demons jack tortured? This whole time demons have been trying to eat me and I should feel bad for demons? Fuck that noise. Neutral here I come.
I prefer her P2 look, I respect your opinion though.
No I don't, your opinion is shit.
So i just started playing nocturne and this little shit got crits and two shot me
What the fuck?
Yeah. I decided to because it's my first time playing it and I heard it was mercilessly hard and my only experience with SMT before this was IV and DeSu OC.
>start up SMT3
>there's no mag
>you're forced to play as a gay Chaos Hero tier demon fusion
>you can't buy equipment
>the music has a 50 year old drunk singing in a tin can
>no stephen hawkings
Is it just a meme to pretend to like this game or something, it sucks so far
Where's the best place to grind EXP in DDS1? I've been grinding the Titania Hallway but I'm wondering if the highest area of the Karma Tower bight be better for that. I was thinking I could also end up getting some of the harder to get noises at the same time.
For honeymoon bonding!
For breakfast in bed!
For goodnight kisses!
For eternal happiness!
for an empty reality...
The HD collection is fantastic, since you get DMC 1, 2 and 3SE, all of which are remastered and look a lot better. It's likely to be cheap at this point in time, too.
Just...don't have your expectations too high for DMC2. It's pretty damn average but has some neato concepts like Desperate Devil Trigger and Dante at his most powerful level.
It's Atlus, what did you expect?
>what is SMT II
The game where lucifer admits he did fuck nothing for a century just because it would maybe make fighting yhvh easier, and then kills everyone in millennium for ?? reason.
The same reason the video that shows Joe and Airi talking is called "5 Ways Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 2 Reminds us of Persona."
For mistreating the people locked up below ground clearly.
Plus YHVH wanted him to unleash the Godly Kuzuryu and destroy the world, so he had a dragon to keep in check until he did that.
>"5 Ways Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 2 Reminds us of Persona
Of Millenium. The rest of the world should still be fine. He didn't outright destroy everything like he was supposed to, unlike when Satan cleanses the earth on Law. Plus just cause the guys who are the root of the corruption are gone doesn't make their crimes or the results of their corruption just magically vanish.
That's why Satan still had to purge the earth in the end.
>During my 30 minute sit-down session with Atlus last week, I learned that just because it doesn't have the word "Persona" in it doesn't make Devil Survivor 2 inaccessible. In fact, it shares a few nifty qualities with its fellow SMT spin-off that should make Persona fans feel right at home.
DESU2 CONFIRMED FOR SHITSONA
What rest of the world? The game seems to imply that this is more or less the last human city. And that people are only alive in it because they have machines that generate a breathable atmosphere. Which means lucifer was, like in IV indescriminately killing people because he didn't like their leaders... after their leaders were already dead, and so there was nothing to be gained. At least satan gave some kind of excuse. Lucifer just did it.
I'm honestly shocked that you didn't trust me. Have the angels blinded you to the point you can't even see the truth?
It's true though. As long as they lived on the surface while the mutants remained underground, they would be considered second class citizens and those raise in Millenium would still see them as such. Not even on Law are they spared.
Thus to protect the people who live in the shadow of the world due to persecution and mistreatment, Lucifer unleashed Kuzuryu.
I wish I was making some of this up, because the whole inferior class deal is brought up in that translated SMTII interview. They even mention the JEWs and the Nazis. Even if Valhalla wasn't swallowed by Abaddon, it would have been tossed into the Underworld eventually.
Memes to us, cool shit to Japanese teens.
Like those people who get Kanji tattoos and shirts and shit only knowing whatever meaning some random person told them it was.
So it's not just a matter of Atlus USA trying to be funny.
It's obvious why.
NIflheim has descended and will freeze part of the world, while Muspellheim will descend and burn the others. The eternal battle between Angels and Demons/Fire and Ice/Light and Dark shall eternally continue.
It's really cold. That's basically it.
Send pics first, and I'll decide whether to fight back or not. Do you have a big dick? You're not fat are you? I guess if you are I could easily run away anyways, so I'll see when you get here.
You grossly overestimate peoples abilities.
Given how this discussion started, I can't help but feel this is appropriate.
>Check out the DeSu RB trailer on IGN
>Superman made a comment
The person you were responding to was retarded, but so what? He could have helped them get aboveground without using the dragon to destroy most of the surface. For all he knows by this point there is no above-ground left to live on. Valhalla was shit even before everything. In IV it was even worse. There was no leaders left already, but he let demons just buttfuck most of the civilians for no reason.
IV's characterization is not II. Just like robot owl bug Lilith is not hopelessly in love with Adam while Lucifers manipulates her pure maiden feelings cause he's a dick in I. Instead she's a complete 100% bitch, and is probably the Babylonian goddess considering it's the first time it's ever been mentioned in her compendium.
Lucifer's smart, so he no doubt knows the mutants can survive on the surface without Millenium. Heck even Hiroko and Aleph are shown fine on the surface and are hailed as a savior to those down below.
Unlike in IV, where the people down below want to die because DESPAIR and many demons were full on assholes, especially to each other.
Well, if the autists didn't drive away most of our members, maybe we wouldn't always have a dead general. Get some more people playing and get them in here so that we can discuss why lilim > angel and pixie.
People would just cry and bitch because they're pretty different places now and can't easily merge together
Autistic alignment posters would cry that their shitposting is drowned out by Chie vs Yukiko waifu shitposting
Shut up Shinado. That's how you spawn Destroyer Insect skull faced angels from the abyss.
>If you don't browse /pg/ you're in the minority here
Why? There's no reason to browse /pg/ unless you're a waifufag.
I've seen far better discussions here about some persona games than in /pg/.
Any MegaTen images that'd make good phone wallpapers?
Aleph is still destined to one day be eternally tormented for all eternity as YHVH will return.
Only in TDE, and he had to end the universe to do it. Raidou is so super special he can do it without destroying reality.
And he helps Lucifer with his BDSM fetish by beating the shit out of him until he turns back into an angel.
My comp's a toaster and can't emulate ps2. I'm gonna order two games out of DDS, Raidou, and nocturne.
My favorite thing in SMT is when careful thought and planning leads to the endowment of major-league ass-kicking abilities.
I don't care how hard it is as long as it forces me to do the above.
I won't play DDS2 without DDS1, etc.
Which games do I get?
Raidou 2, Nocturne.
Delete your pick, the goth whore is annoying me.
Best joke I heard all week.
He's so tightly bound by the invisible strings of the Lord that even when he's going chaos, he is inevitably helping YHVH.
Highschool girls are
It all makes sense now.
SMT is a series that actually requires some higher thinking both strategically and mentally as well as a good understanding of philosophy
A fucking Persona waifufag shitter wouldn't be able to grasp these concepts
And the cycle continues whether you go Law, Neutral, or Chaos.
The White are Right.
I know that most of this general is easily baited about everything, but this is too obvious.
At this point, so does anyone who's watched true detective too, though. Or the equivalent of one at any rate.
HOLY SHIT GUYS
Firstly because I like the logo?
Secondly it's a nice clean design that doesn't lose anything to being a background or clutter the screen visually
Thirdly, who are all these people starting at my screen that don't actually know me and now think I'm in a cult that you are describing?
I have quite a few friends. Why? Are you lonely?
What was wrong with those posts? Especially the second one?
Are we deleting everything that triggers us or we just don't like now?
If that's the case I don't like these posts >>95033097, >>95034236, please delete them.
At least we all have agreed now that the games are philosophical.
There's some serious autism here that gets mad that people play the games for any reason but liking to see numbers on a screen slowly become bigger numbers. They rush to report everything they don't like, which is why there's a constant dead general.
let me spoonfeed you why you're an idiot
Yes, me living with my girlfriend and having friends is totally not happening because I like SMT.
You needing to project this hard is somehow changing the reality of my life.
Yes, instead of being happy and liking things I should cry about how a stranger might see this on my phone screen in the background and become an introvert. Thank you for showing me the light.
Hi, new. Try learning more about the English language and the subject of this general before posting more.
As opposed to protagonistic shitposts?
Yeah, it's really surprising that this is one of the generals where a lot of people report stuff but it still manages to be shit.
I could accept it if there was some consistency at least.
The ones I quoted where on the same level but are still here.
>As opposed to protagonistic shitposts?
Yeah, that's right. Saying something like "i want to fuck walter" is I guess a shitpost but it's not really anything but low quality. Direct "if you like this game kill yourself :^)" posts are attacking people.
Frost Ace even was great, him fighting for justice against the Fiends and being defeated every time.
Because the game was full of bugs and they couldn't keep getting money from the players anymore.
Except that one Frost Ace that shows up at the end and avenges his fallen comrade.
There was Mara's harem kingdom plan by some Incubus and other horny demons, and didn't they do a Anubis one last month?
>Yeah, that's right. Saying something like "i want to fuck walter" is I guess a shitpost but it's not really anything but low quality. Direct "if you like this game kill yourself :^)" posts are attacking people.
Are you joking? Those are joke attacks. We have real people constantly trying to actually attack people here all the time.
>responding is now being defensive, u so mad bro
Are you having some sort of fit?
>You're defending your right to have a weeb cult background on your phone
Actually, I'm asking what the problem is, there is quite a difference.
>and making up stories about not being a virgin.
Your projection is the issue here. I can't see how you need to believe I'm a virgin unless you are projecting, because if you're not, you're a pretty strange person obsessed with other's sex lives.
Timestamp what? My sleeping girlfriend? Yeah, I'll get right to that.
>Is it just a meme to pretend to like this game or something, it sucks so far
Okay. The first post I quoted was discussion about the target audience of the persona games.
>Direct "if you like this game kill yourself :^)" posts are attacking people.
Oh my god! You're right that would be awful!
It's not like this is 4chan or anything where being called a faggot is the norm.
Remember the quote about cyberbullying.
Ahahaha holy shit, man.
You really can't handle having your shitpost get deleted, can you? Like, if anyone else shitposts and it's reported, that's cool. But when it's one of yours, it's a fucking abuse of power oh my god moot please come back
>Timestamp what? My sleeping girlfriend? Yeah, I'll get right to that.
Yes. I want your phone, and a paper with /smtg/ written on it in the pic. Using "she's sleeping" isn't an excuse to not be able to take a picture. Yet you are clearly using it as a reason you don't have to.
Controversial opinions time.
I think Persona 2's demon negotiations were the best of the bunch. But I feel Altus has stagnated with them since then and has not done much of anything with a particularly interesting and unique aspect of their games. I really hope moving forward they'll work on improving them. Also, the general philosophy, while a fun ride, is bullshit on an intellectual level. I can't help but feel that these people(of Altus) don't truly believe that stuff or something is very wrong with their mental development. What's written is likely for a lack of hassle and for fun. At least I hope.
>Are you having some sort of fit?
Well I'm not gonna make another comparison image but basically the old logo's imagery is about 100 times more offensive to a layman's eyes than the new logo's encircled pentagram. The sarif crosses at the top and bottom are a symbol used for white supremacist groups and, perhaps most notably, the Crusades. This, coupled with the six-point star (jewish imagery) and its encircled head, you get something that looks much worse than Wicca to the average person checking out your phone over your shoulder.
> Also, the general philosophy, while a fun ride, is bullshit on an intellectual level. I can't help but feel that these people(of Altus) don't truly believe that stuff or something is very wrong with their mental development.
What stuff are you talking about? I think we know that atlus doesn't think that SMT is a true story.
Being in these threads since before /vg/ and on 4chan since 2006 is new now?
Yeah, your /b/ tier argument sure is a winner, you showed me. No u indeed.
You're getting unbelievably worked up over someone having a phone background and asking how it's a problem.
I'm starting to see why you clearly can't handle human relationships. Going in my room to wake her up to take a picture to satisfy shitposters on 4chan is such a good choice. Your need for me to not be in reality doesn't change reality, I don't need to prove anything. What are you going to do? Shitpost some more? Oh no.
>What are you doing here then? Wouldn't you be able to talk with them if you felt the need?
Have you ever considered not everyone plays SMT?
And you really expect me to believe the ~60 people we have here every thread all have no friends and I'm the exception?
>Have you ever considered not everyone plays SMT?
Friends should have the same interests or not?
>And you really expect me to believe the ~60 people we have here every thread all have no friends and I'm the exception?
>average person checking out your phone over your shoulder.
Who cares? Really, who gives a fuck? Do you think they're going to snatch the phone from his hand and smash it? Are they going to accuse him of being racist or a witch or something and try have him stoned?
Seriously, please explain why the random people in the street who see his phone background and get offended by it is a problem for him.
I once saw an old dude get into an argument with a girl because she was wearing a star of David necklace and he thought she was a Satanist.
Do you look at it on your phone, though?
>I'm starting to see why you clearly can't handle human relationships. Going in my room to wake her up to take a picture to satisfy shitposters on 4chan is such a good choice. Your need for me to not be in reality doesn't change reality, I don't need to prove anything. What are you going to do? Shitpost some more? Oh no.
I didn't say you had to wake her up. If she's really your girlfriend, presumably she doesn't think you have ill intent if you take a simple picture. And with anger management problems like yours, you shouldn't be asking whether anyone else has trouble with human relationships.
She's feeling pretty sick, actually. Was giving her space and time to fall asleep.
Yes, it is ironic that not everyone plays SMT. That's why I shove my phone into the face of every stranger I see.
>Friends should have the same interests or not?
No, actually. SMT isn't my only interest though, so it's not like I don't share interests with my friends.
Then I don't know what to tell you if you're claiming to honestly believe that.
>I didn't say you had to wake her up.
Yeah, turning the light on in her face so the picture isn't blackness seems like a good way to let her be.
>with anger management problems like yours
Again with your projection.
Pretty sure he also walks around with a Raidou costume. I mean, really, who gives a fuck?
Seriously, please explain why the random people in the street who see his outfit and get offended by it is a problem for him.
Careful, he's on 4chan since 06.
Man it's good to back to first person dungeon crawler. Since i beat SH I've been playing nocturne, IV, DeSu OC for the past few months and I just started SJ this feels good, being able to walk all the map and left nothing unmarked.
>claims to be an oldfag
>subscribes to the 2011 ideal that defending your posts is EVER something worth doing
I don't care if you've been here since the 1900s, you don't belong here anymore.
Far, far more people will be upset at the sight of loli porn than strange religious symbols, to say nothing of the fact that public showing of porn is illegal whereas a pentagram isn't.
So yes, it is false.
What "E-honor"? This is anonymous board.
>If I reply to people asking questions with shitposts
Except I didn't shitpost, so you're not making a point here.
I don't care if you feel that way, I'm here to stay. Feel free to take your own suggestion, however.
>What "E-honor"? This is anonymous board.
And yet you felt the need to defend yourself on, as you said, an anonymous board. Nobody here will ever know if you do or don't have a girlfriend, so why does it matter if they say you don't?
Blogging is shitposting. Your personal life shouldn't matter at all, if people are asking questions about it, you should ignore it because it's totally off topic.
Your first shitty post was the one asking about wallpapers for a phone background, with your great 4chan experience you should've known what was bound to happen.
Hey guyzzz. This is anon's girlfriend. Here to prove I really exist.
Future-san, what can you tell us about the upcoming quadrology of mainline titles!?
But why? Daisoujou shouldn't ever be attacking physically. This should be a no-brainer. Go with Agilao and replace it with something better down the line.
The only attacks Daisoujou should be using are Preach, Meditation, Mahamaon and Mamudoon.
>so why does it matter if they say you don't
It doesn't, as I've already stated.
I'm amused by the idea that it's "literally impossible" for me to have any human contact while liking SMT and you will see that most of my posts still have me asking about the problem with having something as a phone background.
I still have not gotten any real answer about how it is that everyone is magically seeing my phone screen and then attacking me for it.
If anyone's blogging it's these people.
>Your personal life shouldn't matter at all
Tell >>95043240 >>95043387 >>95043693 >>95043742 >>95043829 >>95043987 >>95044050 >>95044071 >>95044195 >>95044315 >>95044327 >>95044345 >>95044494 >>95044856 and any I may have missed since they weren't replying to me.
>Your first shitty post was the one asking about wallpapers for a phone background
You mean >>95043303? Which I still have not gotten an answer to, despite repeatedly asking.
But no, I'm the shitposter because I actually used logic and facts.
>Uh oh! A tough game decision. What should I do?
>Make an educated guess based on experience
>Make two saves and experiment because you are a pussy
Enjoy your misinformation.
Ooh, I'm gettin lewd now. He shouldn't have told you boys about me.
You're either not here since 2006 or retarded as fuck.
I don't have to tell them, please actually read my posts:
>if people are asking questions about it, you should ignore them because it's totally off topic
No I meant >>95040574, if you had a brain you could've found some SMT wallpapers during those years of being on this imageboard or would know ways of finding ones yourself/not needing to be spoonfed or at the very least wouldn't have felt the need to specify that you're going to use it as a phone background because that doesn't matter at all for the images you're getting.
People asking about personal life to afterwards fuck with you are pretty common on here, another thing you should already know and know how to ignore after all those years.
>You're either not here since 2006 or retarded as fuck.
I am, and I'm not. So, eh.
>No I am calling you retarded for a post that you didn't make and it makes no sense for you to have made, now have a paragraph about it because I'm showing you that I hate blogging
Plot twist. I was Satan all along! I'm only here to kill him.
Oh, my mistake, now I see, >>95043303 was your first post. That's even worse, you started blogging right from the beginning.
>I am, and I'm not. So, eh.
So you are just pretending to be a total retard?
First shitpost. Doesn't really matter, you made, what 20 posts or so, and only your first one managed to not include your personal life.
Like I said if you were here that long, you wouldn't have reacted like this and shitted up this thread with totally off topic stuff.
Even this shitposter >>95045885 managed to be more relevant than you.
So it's my fault people are stupid and can't answer basic questions about their logic?
And you dragging this out is also my fault, as well as I am supposed to congratulate you because it's not shitposting when you do it?
You certainly are proving your point by doing what you are complaining about.
>Wait, it did include your personal life. You also could've just said that the old SMT logo is a good one.
Okay, so now I should reply to any post pertaining to people playing or having played the games this thread is about and complain about them talking about their personal life?
>So it's my fault people are stupid and can't answer basic questions about their logic?
Of course not, don't waste my time. It's your fault that you felt the need to respond with a detailed description of your life. We now know that Anonymous has a girlfriend, friends, interests other than SMT which his friends unfortunately don't happen to share with him, so he comes here etc.
I'm not saying that I'm not posting off topic stuff. I just want to explain to you why blogging is shitposting since nobody else since 2006 seems to have done it, so that next time you won't shit this thread up with hundred posts talking about your life with other people. This is simple. You really seem to like logic, so I'm surprised you couldn't come up with that yourself.
Like I said, I don't want to be pedantic, I just felt the need to point out that literally everyone of your posts since the beginning of this topic had something to do with your life.
Obviously nobody would say anything if that had been your only post.
In all seriousness, is there something bad going on in your physical life? Is your girlfriend related somehow? There's really no other reason you'd be this mad, and try to take it out on the internet. We're not trying to be harsh. We can help you if you tell us about it.
What? How does that matter for shitposting?
The one in your image.
Will you be my nigga?
I remember when it was wild and free, when drawfags got scared off by faggot raiders with big white brushes, before they added admin-undo and shit like that. Now flockdraw is all people actually drawing and the community just isn't nearly as inviting or fun. Damn shame.
Yes, they're all great and worth the price.
I hope you enjoy them.
So I'm replaying DDS and actually going to do the side content. Do the bonus bosses all require new game+ or just demifiend?
raidou 1 is pretty shitty to be honest, if raidou 2 is on the store get it because it's way better
What's wrong with DDS on PSN?
Wow, did you actually completely miss the point there? It's not that you can't enjoy P5 without paying, it's that refusing to support mainline is refusing to fight the rising tide of persona fans, which makes more persona releases.
Should I get these digital PSN copies or should I just wait out a cheaper price on the physical copies? Raidou is near $30 new but Nocturne and DDS are ~$15. When do you think Atlus will stop printing copies?
It's not that demons CAN'T have a reason, it's just that humans naturally generate a lot more magatsuhi/maganatite than pureblood demons.
Nobody pointed out that the mantra, an organization comprised entirely of demons, we're being idiots by trying to have a reason (and indeed, they're seen as a threat by nihilo and have to be wiped out instead of just letting them run free).
The mantra didn't have an actual sponsor like the other reasons did to draw magatsuhi from and summon a proper god for their reason, so they were clubbing humans and manikins for it instead.
This is what happens when you make a game where most of the plot is only implied or only given if you do the difficult bonus dungeon
gozu tennou and thor did, at any rate, that's why one talks about chiaki carrying on his ideals and the other joins up with her
the random oni were probably just in it for breaking stuff, but that's grunts of the chaos faction in every game
I think there was a switch. At first they wanted to rule over the vortex world. But then realized that that wasn't a coherent long term goal, and they should make an actual world out of it.
gozu tennou says at one point that he didn't at first. He changed his mind when he ran into chiaki
I think it's hilarious that SMT autists see Atlus making Persona 5 with HD demon enemies and somehow think they've been abandoned.
A child could see that P5 will be this generation's Nocturne in terms of how much it gets recycled.