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Does anyone get depressed watching pros stream alone? Like bulldog is streaming alone now and watching is stream is really depressing since he's really quiet and his friends have left him and he's all alone by himself...
He just stopped streaming...
Holy shit this is so fucking dead, like OMG dead
The Ancestor's Pride set is the coolest one, in my opinion
There is another thread going on which is very active. OPs from both thread fucked it up (baked way before post limit) and different header (active one doesn't have /d2g/ name in it.
>F: I like to be the one-position, but then you're going to start carrying from mid and I'm supposed to space-create from the safe lane? I have to play heroes that...
>R: What? Don't blame me for hero flexibility, you know who to blame
>F: When we started playing terrorblade, you played him, why? Didn't you trust me? Did you not trust me?
>F: How many championships did we win in a row?
>R: I don't know. Five?
>F: Yeah, like five. Then you left because what, we weren't good enough for you? And then see what happened
>F: I used to consider you to be the best player in the world, but then you lost that fire
>R: Oh my god, I am actually getting so mad right now
>F: I never said he wasn't top three, I just said I'm better than him. Artour is one of the few players I respect
>R: Haha what, you think you're top two in the world?
>F: I'm the best player in the world
>F: All I'm saying is that you're greedy and I hate you
look anon my nor your opinion matters in this
its a fact that dac isnt ti
ti is the official #1 tournament with most prestige, meaning and largest prizepool
dac is #2 at the moment
thats all there is to it and NA has won 0 TIs so far
Which is why it's called TI4.5 and not TI5 you fucking dumbshit yuro.
Yorup will always remain irrelevant as long as PPD plays dota and there is ~NOTHING~ you can do about it.
Because they put Singsing on a core position and don't waste his talent.
Team Tinker will fail with Black^, too because they don't even let him play ANTIMAGE HIS FUCKING SIGNATURE HERO
Disregard the retard.
Also, learn to debate. The one and only telling sign that DAC was nothing close to TI, is that the competition wasn't a fierce.
TI4 NB > DAC EG
TI4 VG < DAC VG
TI4 EG = DAC Secret
TI4 DK >> DAC BG
and the list goes on with > and >>
Ergo TI4>>DAC skillwise.
>tfw get matched on dire side most of the time
what are you trying to say
eg is the best team in the world right now
NA still has won 0 TIs and thats the only thing weve been talking about
dac isnt ti because it doesnt read anywhere there and there is right now only 1 TI a year
get real man
>dac isnt ti because it doesnt read anywhere there and there is right now only 1 TI a year
>dac isnt ti because it doesnt read anywhere there and there is right now only 1 TI a year
>again with the WELL TEKNICKALLY ACKSHUALLY IT IS NOT OFFFFICIALLY CALLED TI ITS NOT TI
DAC was more "prestigious" (read: more prize pool) than any TI that yurop won. So to claim that yurop has a better track record than NA is some epic yuro logic.
Can someone explain this item to me? When you're morphling and there's shit like skywrath or storm with orchid on the other team I can understand going manta, but if you're a fucking sniper is it really worth it? I mean, is it just for a bit of chaos when bat tries to initiate? I don't fucking get it.
>implying hero damage matters
my hero damage/kills was so low because I was jungling, and once lanning was over i split pushed
Holy shieeet, i just realise this slark response is a reference to the 1930s anti-marijuana film Reefer Madness.
How many people have actually finished the All-Hero Challenge 10 times?
Reminder that PA is a balanced hero~
Only people with stage 3 autism
Shitter here, how could I carry my team better?
I think that the amount of damage I managed to deal was way to low to deal with the enemies, we almost won but my team kept getting picked off solo.
How do I peep?
fucking sing entering yolo mode and cwm going full bambo
this is trully mouz reborn™
I'm sure i'll reach 4k mmr one day :)
what a great game of dota that was
>it's sing holding c9 back
>kick sing for tinkerino to become good
>BU is just a joke team lol they're gonna disband in a month
c9 showing how shit they are without their true carries, aui and sing
tinkerino can't even beat lmao NA teams lmao
BU beating the CIS powerhouse that is Empire
only secret left in their way and they're weak after M5 ridiculed them in that sniper game
IT'S TIME FOR THE BURDENS TO SHINE
reminder to not watch any BTS streams.
our guy most-punchable-face-in-dotacommunity capatalist is casting on mlg.
>almost constantly hasted like a broodmother in webs
>win every manfight by being a combination of ursa/pa/void without any items
>if a teamfight is won he kills towers as fast as lycan
>viable in any lane + jungle and still wins over 90% of lane matchups
There's no hero that spells free mmr as this one
>jealous of an old man
Nahaz is only 37 though
Popularity isn't an issue if you're above a level of avg players.
I'd argue that being on the low key while still being popular is the best, since the game doesn't have to pander to shitters in order to sustain the No1 place.
I mean, see what popularity did to league's actual gameplay. Although I'm quite convinced their braindead balance team would ruin the game anyway.
BASED SISTER SITE DOING CUSTOM MAPS
WHY CANT WE BE AS BASED
It helped me not get picked off when antimage blinks in on me.
Could he finish game of thrones? it will be a shame if we never know how all ends
Alot of heroes have something about them that is bad, and lately the only thing they are weak on is early game armor, but some heroes doesnt have anything bad like Cent, WR, Tide, Bat etc.
i challenge YOU to name a major weakness of
He is a decent to good hero, fun to play and watch.
Mean while Sniper with his stupid fucking retarded Shrapnel + and two passives makes for boring play and boring viewer sport.
and can't be countered by anyone in lane.
and is bullshit, you can't even gank him if you don't have fucking Bara+Centaur+Tiny to tank the shrapenl early game.
and they're back to not picking axe again.
Troll is pretty strong at the moment but once people learn to play against it he''l be back to being considered bad.
What pisses me off is that posts like that make it sound like it's impossible to lose with troll. It's the same shit that happened to void.
>stream snipers, fakenicking and match fixing.
those three are problems, sure. but they are not even comparable to a tool that basically plays the game for you, like aim hack.
and the issue is not that one team hacked, but that when you try to achieve a pro status or w/e, you have to go through the constant doubt that people might be hacking all the time.
Long duration CD on ult that can be played around or ignored with enough bkbs
literally the most mediocre hero ever for most of the game. Doesn't excel at anything other than maybe DPS in the ultra late with carry priority.
Cant recover well at all compared to most other offlaners. If you shut him down with a magic dps support like sky he takes forever to be relevant. Literally the most snowbally hero to ever exist behind tusk. Also cant push for shit unless you're so far ahead you can just dive towers or base.
the only hero I think is legit OP right is troll.
>because singsing did not get caght by bla,bla,bla or skewer, blabla he didnt need to use bkb.
sing actually got caught by skewer and used bkb.
he is shit as a player, shit as a caster and shit as a stats man.
idk why people like him
>Troll is OP!111!!!
>NOT ANYONE ELSE
I fucking L O V E this gulag MEMEMEMEMEMEMM XDD MEMEMEME that only CARRIES CAN BE OP.
No, it's not Venge and Lion outshining every other support in every single way that might be OP hahaha SUPPORTS NEVER OP LOL WTF JAJAJAJA PA TROLL OP HIT HARD OP OP CANT KITE OP OP.
Go fucking FUCK YOURSELF YOU FAGGOT.
There are fucking dozens of heroes performing better than Troll Warlord.
Fucking EMBER SPIRIT DOES BETTER LOL
Fucking kike piece fo shit.
Even nerfed to shit Brewmaster does better lo.
>people actually calling troll OP
i bet no one remember the hardest carry that can pause an entire team into a chain frost
you actually compare some atk speed gimmick carry to void holy shit
>sniper is useless against storm lategame
only if you put storm in safelane
which is very unlikely because pros keep putting him mid vs sniper
there are only 1 or 2 heroes in the game that can survive sniper harassment and its not even worth picking them
>guy on enemy team picks Axe
>What a fucker
>expect lane cutting
move and attack speed slowed
orb of venom further slowed
His CM supprot cant do shit
Proudest fucking Dota moment in my life. We beat back that spic tactic and I had 3.3k gold as omni by the 15 miunte mark. Fuck Axe.
Nigger fuck piece of shit. Won by 23 minutes.
so you personally think heroes should be balanced according to pubs? that is literally LoL tier of bullshit
Doesnt siege well!??!?! see me after class!
centaur can go woods level 1, he got high str and high str gain high movement speed.
centaur can woods lvl 1 but it's slow as shit compared to like tide or bat who can manage blink by 10 easy even if they have to abandon. If you're forced to woods centaur it'll take you until atleast 16 minutes to get a blink which is garbage, and only gives you like 10 minutes before all the cores on the other team has defensive items to make you worthless for everything but your ult.
>Troll farming lane at 10HP.
>ENEMY VENGE SITS NEXT TO HIM
>It goes on for multiple seconds
>Venge doesn't do shit
>Troll starts juking
>Venge doesn't stun but waves him
wtf was that?
Centaur can easily level 1 jungle, it's just a bit slow and he does better in lane anyway.
It's like having Lone Druid or Axe jungle, it can be done but why would you when they could win lanes instead?
PA and viper
only 2 heroes that can truly manage shrapnel and take aim
ogre magi to some extent but that's about it
the funny thing is the hero is designed to be a lane winner and still does much more than that
stun was on cooldown
>wait for stun to come off cooldown instead of just rightclicking troll, tilt starts
then troll starts juking
stun off cooldown
>tilt intensifies can't think straight
troll still juking ogre tps
>venge finally thinks about using scream to give vision
ogre already tpd, troll uses axes for vision, ogre stun hits before venge stun goes off
why the fuck would you pick PA against Sniper?
Ive seen pros pick PA into Sniper and lane her against him which is fucking illogical. I will not accept it. Its retarded. If you wanted to beat a sniper mid lane you would pick a brood, warlock, viper or invoker
dude sniper harassment is only 1 part of his lane domination
his projectile speed ensures deny on every creep you go on,pa and viper are the only heroes that can even go in creep range against sniper because they have stifling dagger and nethertoxin + corrosive
Stop putting them in the offlane, maybe?
The DOTA police don't hold guns to your heads and force you to play heroes in only a single lane.
Cent or LD can easily solo safe lane while you run a trilane.
theres no way empire isnt throwing this
I think people are seriously underestimating weavers capability vs a sniper in lane
sure his cs will suffer for the first few lvls but once he's lvl 3 he can just face rush sniper and bully him with little risk, and keep him out of lane unless he gets support from someone.
>sniper gets ONE head shot proc in your dive and you can no longer kill him because his team will just tp in because weaver's BAT is so shit the attack speed slow assrams weaver
Hello, today I was playing Sven, the Rogue Knight. I was laning alone against Alleria, the Windrunner and Krobelus, the Death Prophet. First of all I disagreed with being solo against those heroes in the first place but whatever. Anyway, I was having some serious issues with Krobelus, the Death Prophet using her Carrion Swarm ability which sends a swarm of bats to damage her enemies dealing 100/175/250/300 damage with a radius of 110-300 to harass me, as well as Alleria, the Windrunner using her Power Shot ability which causes her to charge a bow shot which deals increasing amounts of damage (120/200/280/360 maximum) depending on how long she charges it and the amount of units it passes through. With all the harass, I could never enter the lane and ran out of consumables very quickly (I am referring to Ancient Tangos of Essifation, and Healing Salves). What can I do about this?
>weaver skoochis on top of sniper
>sniper shrapnels and a autoattacks
>your skoochi is up again, use it instead of standing there attacking like a retard
>headshot debuff gone
>geminate again and sniper is dead
>ult for full health
Even if sniper gets lucky/is smart and has a sentry in lane, you man up on him, notice he has vision, ult back out.
I'd agree as slow fucks weaver if it was a longer debuff, but you can literally just skoochi if he hits you with it and leave or stall for time until it's gone and geminate is back up.
Not to mention this is only talking lane match up. Once the mid game is live weaver excels at getting into the back lines where sniper would be and just toying with him/killing him if he gets no support.
>tfw you realize you've been using your right hand for mouses when you're lefthanded.
I bet I am really 8k material if I swap
fuck off shill
They are fucking gonna lose this because of sing sings lategame decisions, calling it.
no matter how I look at it it seems like Storm is the only fucking hero I should play
every fucking game something goes to shit except if you pick storm
this game sucks because of this
Update tier list March 2015
EG, Secret, BU, VG
Cap was shit at the beginning, too. Now he's good.
>put Sing on position 1
>stomp the best team in Europe
is he safe laning? If yes, then viable I guess
It's just more farm orientered and not the treads, bottle, aquila, diffu build that just goes ham on enemy supports after getting that diffu
thats my build and I play PL in the offlane.
I feel like that's the main problem with dota2 casting in general right now
people hire friends to do the job rather than qualified people. None of the casting studios care about quality at all. They incentivize perfection like they should. They're ok with mediocrity because their isnt enough competition in the market.
SnY is both significantly more expensive than Drums, meaning of course its better, and its not even comparable to the item timing. Drums are bought around 8-12 minutes, SnY is closer to 25.
You are wrong.
it should be up to the consumer/market to decide with viewership whether a casting studio is successful.
instead we have casters fully acknowledging viewers are drawn solely by the content.
What planet are you on, that would be an SnY rush you faggot.
How about you actually watch the game.
In fact, I bet you can't even link me a single game someone has bought a 14 minute fucking SnY.
it took them 50 mins and megas to close out a game with a 30 kill lead because sing bought shit items and barely managed 500gpm despite all the space in the world
i like his memes too but he's still not playing very well in this new team despite their results
>yfw juggernaut has like 5 or 6 50+euro sets that actually look great
>enemy team walks down the lanes and takes everything
>disconnect is their hard carry and he had buyback
what a fucking joke, LOL isn't this shit
>On a Godlike streak as [x hard carry]
>Getting fast core items like a mofucker
>Shitty support losing lane against brood hard
>I tell him to buy sentries or dust so he doesn't get fucked
>He tells me to buy them
>Lose because my team can't hold down 1 lane while I'm murdering the other team
Not spending anything, I just don't really understand who exactly is going to pay 240euro for a virtual item set
That said you can't deny that some of the sets are really cool
>tfw you win a game with a literal account buyer on your team
jesus ficking HRIST
that was exactly what you implied
>Drums are bought around 8-12 minutes, SnY is closer to 25.
drums = 1850
sny = 4100
sny is 55% more than drums
a 12min timing is 48% faster than a 25min timing
therefore you implied an item of double the value is roughly double the time to farm.
clearly i am the retard here.
Trying to trade through the lounge cause I want the golden Slark skadi but I don't want to give Valve any jew gold. Instead all I'm getting is jews trying to jew me even more than Valve does.
But on a serious note, I bet he isnt one of the muh apm guys. Actually one of the few starcrumps that wasnt completly autistic.
No thats why you read into because you suffer from high levels of autism.
Its bought later because it's both more expensive and you buy several other items before it, such as HotD and Aquila.
Don't confuse your spergings with reality.
there are only a handfull of it, its about prestige than beauty
>Linas Catalyst Cap is worth nothing but yet the best cosmetic in the game even blowing out the Lina arcana in the water
I don't care if singsing gets fanboi hype. The guy is versatile and plays every role he has been put in good at worst. He's reliable and strong. I've been saying for a while now that I thought singsing was good pre c9 days. In fact I hated his stream until I saw him play pro simply because I just saw a hipster kid drawing in hipster fans, but the guy is good at dota2 and all you haters should look past his trendy hype and recognize he's a great pro player.
WE COULDNT EVEN GET FUCKING 200K PEOPLE WHEN DAC GRAND FINALS HAPPENED
WE ARE SO FUCKING DEAD
WE ARE THE PLAYIONG DEAD
>its bought later because it's both more expensive and you buy several other items before it
except the anon you were arguing with was suggesting you replace drums with sny. so why would you be buying hotd or the worst item in the game.
>SnY is over twice as expensive as Drums
>Drums are bought around 8-12 minutes, SnY is closer to 25.
You literally said sny is twice the cost and then said sny takes twice the time to purchase.
But somehow I am the "highly autistic delusional sperglord" nice projection faggot
You make catastrophically bad, nearly game losing decisions at 32:20 and 34:50 and yet you blame your team?
Get over yourself kid. I'm 6k and would probably lose a majority of my 1v1 matchups against you, but I guarantee I would end up winning 9/10 games because my decision making is 10x what yours is.
You think because youre some pro player you can be a disgusting rude kid to everyone when they make a mistake, and then sheepishly shrug off your own awful play with a smug "we lost" in voice chat like its somehow everyone's fault and not just your own shitty mistakes.
Your terrible late game decision making is why C9 will never be an elite team. Even so, try being a nicer person like Waga and maybe your superior mechanical skill can allow you to consistently stay above 7k even though your awful xboct-like strategic mistakes will always be there to bring you down.
Incomparable. Dota is a popular game in a country which does not use Twitch and DAC was offered free ingame. Twitch is not everything.
Huomaotv actually has legit numbers. You're thinking of Douyu.
>so why would you be buying hotd or the worst item in the game.
Thats my entire fucking point as to how the 2 items are not comparable, why the fuck are you even jumping in without understanding what the fuck I'm talking about. Kill yourself.
>You literally said sny is twice the cost and then said sny takes twice the time to purchase.
Yes but I never connected the 2, because they aren't connected.
>enemy mid sven goes 30-3
>next game, enemy mid storm goes 17-1
>next game, enemy mid lina goes 17-4
>next game, enemy mid TA goes 12-1
I'm really getting fucking tired of Dota.
>one of the biggest streamers (waga)
>still less viewers than minecraft
>>one of the biggest streamers (waga)
That is so goddamn wrong I don't even know where to start
RTZ, Dendi, Sing, Dread all constantly have at least 10k viewers MORE than him, not to mention when they reach 30k at times
He's a cheap camwhore that will never amount to anything of value for the Dota 2 scene
>Yes but I never connected the 2, because they aren't connected.
except the the whole fucking argument was about replacing drums with sny.
>why the fuck are you even jumping in without understanding what the fuck I'm talking about.
you dont even know what you're talking about
It's more of a casual/nonplayer issue, sort of like sony console sale threads. They are more invested in what kind of scene they are participating in, instead of the products themselves. Literally quantity over quality.
I've been saying OD is a non hero for months now.
He can't do anything. He can't farm single effective item in the first 10-20 minutes.
Probably boots rush imprison first OD support OD is the only OD worth shit.
My lord stop posting.
>except the the whole fucking argument was about replacing drums with sny.
The entire argument is about how you CAN'T replace drums with SnY because they have completely different timings.
Here, I'll even point out my first post to you because you obviously suffer from debilitating mental issues.
Seriously, kill yourself.
>mfw I get placed with a good 3 stack against a bad 3 stack and they let me go mid with ember
after arount 1500h I finally uninstalled League of Legend and now I want to waster my life with DOTA.
I already played a little but I can't farm for shit, have no idea what to buy, what when to do etc. I even have a hard time vs bots... you typical lol shitter I guess.
How do I git gud? In league I enjoyed playing toplane bruisers, but since the whole lane and jungle meta is different I dont know what to play in DOTA.
Reminder that the bubble is really popping this time
I imagine Valve cares. It's not like this is bad news for them that CSGO is doing great but they should see a pretty distinct signs of decline for dota unless they just look at ingame numbers. Esports are necessary for dota to stay relevant and their carefree ''we only do TI that's it'' only makes the game grow less interesting.
Bots coordinate their stuns nearly perfectly, can deny cs like gods, build solid items, and push to end early when they have a lead.
That is better than 50% of the playerbase right there.
post pics of best spirit