EVE Online General /eog/: Amarr Edition
>Can I make enough isk to PLEX during the trial?
If you have to ask, you can't do it.
>I just started, what should I do?
Do the tutorials, they give you isk, ships, skillbooks and teach you the basics. No really, do them. Do the career agents after that for an even deeper look at the game.
Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.
>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
Read the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/dVy50hyT
EVE Uni Turret Guide : http://imgur.com/a/OIYsh#0
< 2s align myths debunked: http://imgur.com/oTk4KEn.png
>SOV CHANGES ARE OUT AND NEW EDEN IS IN CHAOS
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP because it is always true.)
>Nullsec got shuffled, promptly fell back to sleep
>ISBOXERS got FUCKING ASS IMPLODED HAHAHAHAHAHA SUCK ON IT FAGS https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5241022
>RIP Greyscale the Madman
>CSM drama over transparency and lazy fucks not turning up to meetings
>Drifters, Talocans, Joves, Sleepers. Don your tinfoil fedoras m'lore fans
>"Battleships are A-OK" - CCP Rise
>Nullsec getting stirred up
>Fanfest soon fellow capsuleers
>Sverticul T3 destroyer is out and kinda underwhelming
>Tengu-chan getting nerfed
>Ishtar-kun getting nerfed
>Compact Ship Scanner is now named Ta3 Compact Mark I Photonic C-3PO Ship Scanner of the Platypus
>Aftershock sound on guns will give everyone a reason to turn the sound back on for 5 minutes
>"No awoxers pls" switch for carebear corporations
>Botters getting drifter'd
>CCP Mimic getting podded on OMS undock
>RIP in peace skynet
>medium rails nerfed
For the Empress!
I really wanted a executioner in red moon rising, 10 years ago.
I still think its one of the most beautiful ships in game.
>tfw they fuckig ruined the crucifier
Why the fuck do I even come here?
I consider the anonymous image board to be the purest form of the internet, and I admie the grea and the bad things it brings out in the emerging community culture
But generals are just so fucking shit. /eog/ is definitely among the better ones, but it's still a general and it's still shit
I guess I come here for the 4chan-styled eve discussion. But all I get is shitposting and embarassing shit like this >>97265093
>tfw posting your close call fights to /eog/ and making that one poster really upset
>mfw BRAVE is a complete clusterfuck of poorly managed and thrown together leadership literally made up of spies
>mfw BRAVE is literally just a thing for nullblobs to farm when they're bored
>It's basically a giant scam to ruin the lives of newbros .
Microwarpdrive or afterburner on an (exploration) Astero?
It was always about the money mate, that's why they are crumbling from the inside right now.
Guy set it up as a joke, it got big and he took advantage of it. Week 1 players have no fucking reason being in nullsec and BRAVE is proof of this.
So guys, what's your opinion on Omens? Love the look, and thinking to target that next with training and ISK once I've flown punishers still a month or so.
Are they worth it in PVE and PVP?
hi anon. this picture is my face when amarr.
> advising anyone to visit the official forums
>Tfw bad at solo but it's still more fun than blobbing
yes. you'd be able to kill people in other space as well, but they're fucking terrible for pvp.
>tfw god-tier solo pvper
>tfw won a 1v(5+links)
>tfw they won't respond in local
>tfw killing so many garmurs that it's probably distorting fozzie's metrics and preventing them from getting nerfed
>primarily solo pilot
>shit on pl/provi in catch
>get multiple kills from 10-40 man blobs while getting away
>win 1v3s of the same ship class all day
>gf them in local
>get nothing every time
the fact that they take their groups and egos super seriously makes it so much better. thats pretty common in eve but for some reason sov groups are twice as autistic about it
They are still too much lowres for my eyes.
>he hasn't joined pizza
literally being paid to play by the martini
how do i look for relics in nullsec as a noob without getting killed the first time i try it? do i just get a warp stabilizer and try to run away if anyone comes near me or what. i dont want to spend 2 hours to make 1million isk in high sec relic sites its super boring
>friends get me into this game
>tell them I plan to go minmatar ships
>they all tell me they are in horrible state right now
Is this true? Searching for relative up to date information seems to be a nightmare with results from 2008 spamming me.
If you want a good Minmatar ship, your options are more or less limited to the Breacher, maybe the Stabber, the Typhoon if you believe that one guy and the Naglfar + a handful of the T2 ship range and the Svipul.
If you want good ships in general, roll Amarr or Gallente.
I'll list the bad ones that stand out. other than these, it's mostly a case of an entire class of ships being bad, not just the minmatar ones.
stabber, rupture, muninn, vagabond
tempest (battleships are pretty bad, but tempest is special bad)
I was rolling minmatar because I was interested in the artillery/auto cannons with a small possibility of missile ships. Could I switch to caldari railgun/blaster ships still? Or are all their good ships purely missile boats.
Gallente drones don't interest me all that much.
caldari hybrid turret ships are not as flexible as gallente hybrid turret ships. the best way to go is gallente + minmatar. you get all the best normal and faction ships and can do anything.
caldari fags cannot attend armour gangs.
you can literally fly whatever you want, the only time cross training will hurt you is between tanks (which isnt that bad, you'll want both eventually anyway), or between weapon types (turrets/launchers/drones) because they use different support skills.
entirely depends on what you're doing in the game, and who youre playing with.
no shit, but if you're flying in wormholes they require different things for you, a good group isn't going to take minmitar/gallente unless you have t3s.
if youre flying in some sov blob theyre going to want certain ships for their doctrines too.
all that's "required" is you can fly a purifier, hound, talwar and a crow.
activity requirements are enforced though. we purge people without activity every couple of months but they're always told they can come back when they're active
pretty much same as above. its a 4chan alliance so it has 4chan >culture
but you can partake as much as you want. as long as you actually log in and play the game noone gives a fuck about anything else
apply in game with a full api key and say you saw a post on /vg/ or whatever
that's just like your opinion man
yea we've taken in a lot of reddit shitters "recently" not gonna deny that but thats why i'm here trying to turn it around
see for yourself, lots of different fleets of lots of different sizes. some solo too
Malediction was completely gutted by Foozie. It has insanely bad align time now for no fucking reason.
And he also apparently hated the fact that people would use LMLs, despite the fact that the reason people do that is because rockets are useless on interceptors.
being able to kill drones that get put on you from 60km is something nothing but the crow can do effectively, that's why we value it
this isn't true because of killing drones, pods etc
Stay about 10 jumps from GE and you are golden. Use dotlan for activity. Most of the back water systems with stations avoid, those are for the ratters/miners.
Avoid: 5-N2, GE-8, BUZ, V2-, HP-, UCG, QET, 6BP, W-MP, V-3, HED.
Those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head. They are the ones with 15+ locals at all times who WILL form up to fuck you up if you go near them. Especially HED, UCG-BUZ-QET, V-3.
Everyone should just avoid V-3 at all costs. It's a bad system.
>running sleeper sites
>every time we warp to a new one someone on comms starts softly reading out the "The sleepers have awoken" text
>pick a name when I first started
>its pretty bad
>regret it immensely
As soon as I find a character on sale that is close to my sp in the shit I care about, I'm buying him. Fucking cringy name.
>don't realise you don't need Firstname Lastname and can just have one word
Pizza is nothing like that though. It's like shitposters vs the reddit generation of 4chan. The reddit generation are Pizza, polite memers but interested in serious gaymin discussion and espurts. While Oruze are shitposting faggots who threaten streamers, support extremist political ideologies and farm gbp all day in their boy hole.
>if you have to ask, you can't do it
What the hell is this implying? Are you saying that you'll only know how to PLEX from 0 long after you've finished the trial, or are you just being snooty?
>leaving for fanfest in the morning
>don't 100% know what to expect
>imagining cool bro moments with people i've known for a couple of years now
>likely just going to be a bunch of social anxious neck bearded cunts in a foreign country
>been looking forward to this for months
>use my normal online handle
>surname field is autogenerated
>just click the random button a few times
>within 10 minutes of being in new eden see about a dozen people with single word names
>didn't bother making a new character because i'd spent about an hour in the character creation alone
>5 years on still have the same name
>now have an alt with the same surname just because
<20:20:32> "Mira deVorsha" connected to channel
This just in!
Oruze Cruise finds dank wormhole inhabitants, proceeds to blaze them the fuck out.
Greyscale will come back to us, he will die for three years and on the first day of the new year a white raven navy issue will undock from Jita 4-4 heralding his return. As the great white raven completes it's lap around the station a great and terrible downtime will come, and the evil blobbers and JF users will wail in fear for what is coming for their sins and evil doings are being accounted for, while the True and Righteous EVE players will be uplifted and the shackles of +50 hull will be torn from their limbs, and they shall be free to roam solo without fear of linkfags and gatecamping scum. Greyscale shall heave his massive weight on to the server, granting the Amarr-fags a cap reduction. Linkfag ships will be unable to dock use stargates or cloaks, warp core stabs will be ineffetual outside of refitting from depots. With one sweep of his stubby hobbit like hands he shall do away with sentry drones and buff regular combat drones. Everywhere supers will feel the massive shackles of nerfs grinding their faggotry to a halt, a true and perfect occupancy sov that provides endless pvp content around the cloak. RF timers disappear in the blink of an eye.
On the third downtime Greyscale shall grow tired again, but he will with his last exhausted breath, strike down the locus of all Evil in New Eden, Gorski Car, and save the Righteous from his evil ways, and a new era will begin, Foozie and Rise will be reborn again, bathed in the glorious madness of the True Absolute Madman.
>Oruze supporting extremist ideologies
mfw people think Oruze REEEEEEEEEEs on comms aren't ironic ones
I'm going to tell everyone to keep doing it so nobody applies to our corp
Oh yeah I forgot to add all the people that weren't transferred from Tengoo are all extra chromosome down clowns who make me want to insert a screwdriver in my eye whenever they speak.
you can leave whenever you want mate
literally nothing holding you back
>everyone is talking about my corp
>all this butthurt
damn it feels good to be a gangsta
>people complain that tengoo is dead
>they want tengoo back but with different leadership
>everyone is still bickering about tengoo leadership even though nothing is left
>voted ceo of non-tengoo related corp
>do our own thing
>everyone in tengoo comes back and sees how much fun we're having without constant leadership struggles and autism
>tengoo core wants tengoo to come back
>tengoo core joins oruze to make tengoo come back
>tengoo didnt come back and oruze is still oruze
>but everyone still thinks it is
>mfw training large pulse laser specialisation 5 ironically
Align isn't about just warping its also acceleration it means you can get to top speed quicker and tackle faster
Malediction can't do this anymore and isn't as fast or as agile as an Ares or taranis
Its slower than its t1 hull at align and its generally garbage now, I'd rather not fly a malediction at all anymore as well
ares has shit armour, can't get repped ever, it's all hull. also they have the same agility, malediction goes faster
while plated, they have nearly identical sensors, and the malediction has better sig. ares a shit unless you want untanked or hull tanked setups, which are shit.
thank you based humble sale for letting me acquire gaem for 5$
with a month I should be able to make plex, I assume
I don't know though
I guess I'll be looking for a clam family eventually
I hope you didn't buy it on Steam, sounds a little like you did.
Amarr = Gallente > Caldari >>> Minmatar.
As a newbie, you can make an okay amount of pocket change if you run missions for the Sisters of EVE corp.
If you want to make much better
but less stablemoney then scan down relic sites in null.
Avoid mining unless it's an absolute last resort.
No, I got the non steam version.
I'm about to sleep and dl overnight so I'll just assume sisters of eve is something I can find easily, if not I'll post more later.
thanks for the advice
Daily Reminder that the Mittani is your friend.
Any idea how long these last? As in, if I buy it now, can I use it 2 weeks from now?
If I understand correctly, you could use it to activate a 'refer a friend' or 'buddy program' or whatever it is called thing, and get yourself a plex on your main account in addition to the account.
So at the very least, a $4 plex.
It will give you a code that (shouldn't) expire, you could probably redeem it next year.
Unfortunately not, but you can still get a new account with 60 days for $4
I tried. :^o
>You think you're in an honorable 1v1 fight against some faggot, and this lands right on top of you.
What do you do EOG?
Pretty sure BL is only temp blue'd for the Fountain War.
And Pizza isn't even Blue to the CFC.
BL just agreed to temp blue the Northern Coalition, and pizza got pissed at Black Legion for some reason, and took a deal from le martini, and is supposedly going to hassle Darkness/Kadeshi in Delve via cloaky camping / bombing for goons during the war.
What the fuck is wrong with Brave?
It's literally lead by an incompetent drunk retard.
The guy doesn't even play the game and is making alliance level decisions himself, or assigning the decision making to "councils".
The soundcloud made me cringe, and literally every Alliance meeting lynchton speaks in, he's fucking plastered.
Why doesn't Brave get rid of him?
He's turned his Alliance into a stat padding machine for PL.
>Finally get sick of corp hopping because every corp I join is a tremendous fucking joke
>Create a holding corp for myself and my alts
>Bought a 1bil Rattlesnake fit to run comfy L4's in whenever I happen to be bored
>Not wanting to join a loosely organized shitfest with a bunch of low SP/experience pilots.
>Must be a lamer
I will do do neither of these things. I'm not pro but I'm definitely beyond what is in essence a noobie corp. And at this stage I'd rather just sit in a holding corp and run L4's solo with no tax for maximum comfy.
>haha i'm way above and beyond a noob corp
>nope wont link my killboard you're gonna have to trust me im way better
you're actually a fucking faggot and I bet the reason you bounced between corps is because everyone hated your selfish, arrogant ass
I lived in C5 space for a few months.
Made it through that without quitting, I'm sure I can manage sitting on vast quantities of salvage and loot, sating my lust for hoarding shit and then freighting it all to a trade hub and selling it all in one big lump.
I've done enough other shit to value sitting in empire space running 4's for a while letting your queue run through until you move on to find something new to do.
No the reason I won't link my killboard is because I value my anonymity and I actually like the fact /eog/ encourages it. I've done plenty of different things with plenty of different people and I've done almost all of them with my mouth shut. Getting bored of things or losing ships because of severe miss-management does not make me selfish or arrogant. While we're at it, I am beyond a noob corp because I've been playing the game for long enough that it has nothing to offer me, once I've made a bit of money running 4's and decide I want to go back into W-space or perhaps down into a small null corp then I'll do it, but for now I'm happy being comfy.
yes, he's like the nicest guy around, and him negotiating is pretty much the only reason most of HERO hasn't just been like "nope, I'm done with brave leadership being 200% retarded"
>Try to call me out
>I tell you that you're wrong
>HUE U R FAGET
>In comms with Oruze Cruise
>They start talking about how no one takes them seriously
>Start discussing the Oruze Uprising
>How they're going to mass murder all of CCP so people will notice them
>Tell them that doesn't sound right
>They start yelling at me
>NORMIES OUT OF MY EVE
>GET OUT OF MY TS NORMIE
>Don't know what the fuck is going on
>Leader is yelling about his GBP and tendies
And that is why you don't fly Amarr.
60 of these, logi and a few web+tp loki's=legit fleet right?
>minmatar ships are shit
>I swear guys look at these EFT numbers!
In a straight comparison of dps/tank, yeah. Think outside the box a bit and they aren't all that terrible. Well mabye except for their HACs.
Should I get some starter codes for throwaway alts to awox brave leadership?
They do if you're dealing with 50 competent guys rather than 500 F1 drones. Fit ewar modules in those spare slots and make the enemy fight on your terms. Kind of like FYF.
I gave up on that a long time ago. There's a ship for every situation, and some times it jsut happens to look a bit rusty.
In ye olden days, they seeded BPOs for tech 2 mods. They seeded fewer of these than they did for tech 1 mods, as they wanted the price to be higher.
Not long after that, they implemented the invention system, where the higher costs would be produced by requiring players to do research on the blueprint to turn it into tech 2.
For some reason, they let the old tech 2 BPOs stay.
And these days they're worth billions because it's basically a license to print money.
Is there any inudstry focused equivalent of EFT/PYFA?
I am thinking of building a moon goo tower once my fuel business takes off, I was thinking it'd be nice to sort out the numbers about it, among other things
I'm not american and I actually tend to root for Russia more in this whole mess
it's just a fanny maymay
Basically. His alliance has some of the worst leadership issues I've ever seen. They have so much middle management a strictly top leadership meeting turns into 50 people talking over each another. A director level spy defects every other month.
boonies used to be like, come and be retarded, learn and have fun
when they transitioned in to a sov holding entity they didnt seem to think that their culture should change, as a result the alliance is doing pretty shittily
guys please I'm at the end of my rope, how do I stop getting socket closed errors? This is the only game I have a problem with and it's making it unplayable please help
meight I played on the same exact ISP like a year ago and didn't have any problems
Brave ceo makes himself look even more retarded.
Claims to have thwarted no less than 8 'spy' coup attempts.
Gets called out at being bad at eve, his reply doesnt even make sense.
Someone asks what the plan is, no one knows and a few, including ceo, make stuff up on the spot
A grounded FC says how brave leadership is the laughing stock of eve, some of said leadership are actually surprised at this.
51 days of gametime if you activate the code as soon as you start the trial.
Some of the junk is useful, some is not. But you can sell everything to get a good chunk of starting money.
>Are those 'extras' worth it or is it a bunch of junk to entice people?
The Core Starter Pack includes:
>The ORE Venture mining frigate
Buyable for the change you find down the back of the sofa.
>A full set of modules and equipment to kit out your ship
>Over two dozen primary skills, ready to train
Implying you don't get these anyway / could buy them for peanuts.
>Blueprints to build the Venture and the deadly Corax destroyer
What fucking ever.
>A Mobile Depot personal deployable
Worth maybe a million isk, maybe (a million is basically nothing)
>Avatar apparel: male “Esquire” and female “Executor” coats (black)
Not checked the price but it's probably worth something.
>Prototype Cerebral Accelerator (skill booster)
Makes buying this worth every single penny and more.
>30 days of game time
No complaints here.
Who are these Oruze fags and why are they so terrible?
Thanks anon, signed up with your trial invite. I purchased the core edition, should I wait for the trial to finish and use the core code or do I do it straight away?
Will the gametime stack is what im basically asking.
>Thanks anon, signed up with your trial invite.
It does not matter, he wont get a reward if you use the core edition CD-Key.
>I purchased the core edition, should I wait for the trial to finish and use the core code or do I do it straight away?
The game time DOES stack.
Join '/v/ bros' channel if you need any help.
Make sure to do all the tutorials too. Some of them can be boring/a pain but they give you a ton of shit.
You can also do the Sisters of Eve Epic Arc, that gives you about 20 mil isk, a decent standings boost, and more time for your core skills to train before you jump in.
I did just that, however as someone said further up I don't think you can get the plex
I'll look down on you if you pick Minmatar and Amarr / Gallente ships are objectively more useful in general than the other two races, other than that you can train any race's ships with any race of character.
You get some racial ship skills based on the type of character you choose but don't let it stop you picking whatever you like.
Choosing race just changes starting location in the Eve star cluster, and what race your starting ship skills are.
All racial ship skills are cross trainable, and it would only take like an hour to cross train all the starting skill.
So no, it doesn't really matter.
For reference, there are lots of Caldari characters because racial choice USED to matter, it does not anymore.
>Minmattar: Space Runaway Slaves
They have rusty ships that look like they are held together by duct tape.
Also use old fashioned projectile weapons
>Amarr: Space Religious Nuts
Literally cover their ships in gold.
Use futuristic space lasers.
>Caldari: Space America (corporate slaves)
Somewhat industrial/blocky designs, all battleship grey.
Use mainly missiles but also hybrid weapons (railguns/plasma guns)
>Gallente: Space France/Space Old-time America (muh freedom)
Green and silver bobby designs, some look fucking awesome, some disgsuting.
Use drones (remote control mini-ships) and hybrid weapons.
That's actually what I meant guys. Only I was thinking getting the deluxe pack. But I can see now that that means paying 21 for a plex so fuck that. Core starter it is
It used to be valid.
Then steam had Eve on sale for $2.00 and everyone subbed their mains for like a year.
I only did 3 extra accounts.
Got a bunch of saved up Primae from the acounts, thought they would be useful one day....
SP is the one thing you should never give up on, at any cost.
You can get avatar resculpting from the market for about 130m isk, the name might be changeable if you can blag to CCP that it's rude slang in a foreign language or something.
CCP offer a way of paying for a subscription directly, without buying the PLEX item, and it's significantly cheaper. It's the normal way but I'm just checking you know, because some people get confused and think PLEX is the same as a sub.
>CCP offer a way of paying for a subscription directly, without buying the PLEX item, and it's significantly cheaper.
It is $15 a month to direct sub, and PLEX is $20 for one PLEX.
You get discounts for buying in bulk, but it is always cheaper to direct sub.
hmm the avatar isn't a big issue I guess but I doubt I can get a name change, I used one of the generic family names that it gives as my last name so I doubt it's offensive.
I just used my real first name for my char though so do you think I can make up some bullshit about how I don't want my real name out there in order to get it changed?
That is seriously my issue.
My account is the same as my real name.
I am seriously on the fence about ending my sub. Not worth starting another either since I have 30mil sp.
Just a small change like an extra letter or something would help (from my super uncommon spelling to a more common one).
I was gonna make an alt anyway so I decided to use the Humble Bundle to get it cheap, I will just pretend the alt is my main in the future
That said, I might still try get a name change just for shits and giggles and tell you how it goes
Why the fuck do they make it look this f2p?
EVE is not an f2p game. IT has some disagreeable cash shop elements but it's a fucking far cry from a full blown f2p game
But this makes it look like an f2p game. Is it really worth it for them? There is no tiered features, yet they have that unlimited access table to make it look like there is
>getting paid to afk camp and get easy kills
why aren't you joining pizza?
>betraying BL bros
>Getting paid 20% per blops kill
>Supporting the mitanni goon regime
I don't get that.
They want people to have fun playing EVE so they'll subscribe, so they get... a mining frigate worth small change.
I don't think mining is the proper activity to introduce new players to if you want them to subscribe, to be honest.
Let's play a game, post an honest opinion from you that would incite a dog.jpg response. Pic related for reference.
I'll start: Streamlining is bad for the game.
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Because streamlining is essentially "less options" which is the worst kind of game design decisions you can pull in a sandbox game
Imagine if amarr drone or missile ships were "streamlined". Or if minmatar became exclusively shield tanked. Stuff that you may think is pointless may have a use in the future when someone finds an awesome use for it.
>don't have cap issues any more than any other race.
>minmatar became exclusively shield tanked
They pretty much already are, it's just that they have enough lows that you can armourtank them anyway. CCP clearly intends them to be shield and speed fit, at any rate.
Minmatar: Fast shields
Gallente: Fast armour
so many minmatar ships have a slot layout that suggests armour tanking, and then ccp gives them more shields than armour for some reason. shit's dumb. why the fuck would I want to shield tank a ship with 5 mids and 7 lows? does ccp actually honestly believe that I want to fit 3 nanos or something?
>still being this much of a fucking retard
I didn't claim it was balanced or how it practically ends up, just how it was intended. The practical list would pretty much be
Caldari: Slow, PvE
Amarr: Armour, cap boosters instead of ammo
Minmatar: Armour, loads of mids
Gallente: Armour, PvP
Not in a game that constricts itself with short as fuck pointrange limitations. What worth is extra range if you can't use it.
I'm not talking fleet ops btw, wherre long range weapons rule, like big fleets.
Blasters are almost universally the best short range wepaon in almost every situation outside of the aforementioned fleet fights
>FC makes us fly shield ishtars
>jump into system
>two shield ishtar gangs fighting each other on the in-gate
>we warp off because it's way too much
>land on the out gate
>shield ishtar gang jumps into us
>wanting to grind for a britbong x martini love romance
>implying t3 fleets are any better than ishtars online