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Fuck yeah op. I run metagross even now.. I'll give megagross a go, but I'll most likely end up sticking with my current set.
All these fags with their opinions on who is better
Make your own thread and stop shitting up the gross boss'
I'm going to name my ORAS Metagross "Tachikoma". I've been watchinga little too much 'Ghost in the Shell' lately.
It's in my top ten favourite pokemon, definitely. Don't like the mega, though. Why the gotta make the X a different colour and make it all weird? The original design was perfect.
Found it quite useful competitively, actually, despite the unfortunate acquisition of a dark and ghost weakness
It would be the coolest pokemon to have irl as well. You could just hang out on its back whilst it floats you about.
Also it's super smart, it could solve all your practical problems.
So does /vp/'s collective unconsious still erroneously think that Mega Metagross is somehow bad?
Seriously where the fuck did that shit come from. Literally everywhere else I've been has been praising it. Tough Claws boosted 145 Atk, with amazing defensive stats, a shit ton of resists for switch-ins, crucial 110 Spd and coverage in Ice Punch, Thunder Punch, Rock Slide/Stone Edge, Meteor Mash, Zen headbutt, EQ and Brick Break/Hammer Arm. That's fucking amazing.
The only real issue is reasonably has is 4mss, so it'll require team mates.
But it isn't useless in ou..
you need to git gud.
A well balanced team can support it and let it shine. My current ou team has like 3-4 uu mons, metagross included, and I do fairly well.
First of all, Metagross doesn't even get Stone Edge, and even if it had it it's not a contact move.
The elemental punches, which are the only coverage moves worth a shit are weak even with the TC boost, Zen Headbutt and Meteor Mash are innacurate, weak and have shit coverage, Hammer Arm is shit because it drops your speed, aka the one stat that got a +40 boost in the first place.
The "amazing bulk" it's actually pretty subpar thanks to it's common weaknesses, if steel hadn't gotten a defensive nerf this generation it would have been fine, but no.
It didn't need 150 defense to begin with, or 105 special attack, 80 HP/160 Atk/140 Def/100 SpA/110/SpDef/110 Spe is a much better spread, if shit like Gengar and Gallade can have optimal spreads why not Metagross too?
Because gamefreak hates this pseudo, what with the nerfed signature move, shitty movepool by pseudo standards, worthless hidden ability and underwhelming mega evolution, enjoy that event Salamence with Extreme Speed while Metagross doesn't get Shift Gear.
You're clearly not understanding the role M-Gross is meant to serve and getting butt blasted about no understanding.
He's not supposed to be a sweeper that OHKOs the entire metagame. That shit would be broken. So yes, it's bulk is amazing as it's meant to be used to switch in. It has common weaknesses, but it also has a shit ton of common resists. This is the same reason Steel/Fighting was such a sought after typing back in 4th gen-- it had common weaknesses, but it's huge amount of resists allowed for easy switch ins. M-Gross' speed is key to that. It's defense allows it to even survive SE attacks, by the way. So yes. It's defense is fucking amazing when considering its role.
Ice Punch is weak with it's base power, sure, but you're using Ice as a coverage move, in which most things you'll be hitting are 4x weak to it. Ice doesn't need that huge strength.
Zen Headbutt and Meteor Mash have 90 accuracy. That's hardly innacurate. Also the coverage of those two alone aren't great, but it can hit any type in the game with its supporting moves.
M-Gross is meant to punch holes through teams. It does this through customizable coverage along with insane speed and bulk, allowing it to effectively 2HKO a huge range of threats. If you can't figure out how to make it work with the shit ton of tools and coverage options it has available, then this is a serious case of git gud.
Reminder that /vp/'s shitty competitive mindset is literally the only place that isn't praising M-Metagross.
You don't need the trip to post here buttscab :^)
The EV's will likely evolve with the meta, but your standard 252Atk/252Spd/4Hp is what I believe most are running right now.
You'll see more variations of this in the future. I don't have access to the calcs atm, but I believe with a little def investment M-Gross can survive Mamo EQ's even after Rocks.
M-Gross will be the type of pokemon that has a shit ton of micro spreads both moveset and EV spread wise because of it's malleability.
I was actually considering a more tanky set. Tentacruel has 100 speed but people tend to pour into its defenses more anyways.
Something like 236 HP / 252 Atk / 16 Spe Jolly would out speed mamoswine with a +spe nature
Been trying for years to get a shiny Metagross and almost a year now on X trying for one. I restart my search every gen. Its bittersweet that we get one in ORAS, but I'm still trying for a legit one! Pray for me.
Spend $20 on a powersaves. Powersave's alter your trainer ID if you makr a pokemon shiny so as long as you yourself found it shiny then you can alter it's stats without feeling like you'recheating.
Seriously, it takes a lot of work and luck to end up with a shiny, well IV'd, hidden nature, egg move pokemon that is legit. Of course nobody would want Metagross' shitty HA. My point is to find the shinies legitimately then bypass the tedium.
are you sure that's a chin?
Megagross is A+ rank and probably S soon.
get fucked nerds
So, it starts with Beldum, a brain leech that lives in puddles, scavenging for carcasses of other animals to inhabit in. Because of evolution, these creatures gain a particular taste for sturdy parts of dead crustaceans, giving them just enough protection, till they find something bigger.
After a long period of growth, the parasite needs a bigger shell to support their constantly expanding body, so their force to move out of the puddles and search for parts of other dead crustaceans, including organs such as the brain, gathering everything together in one single body shell. This phase is called the "Metang" phase.
The next phase of evolution is called "Metagross" (meta= metamorphoses / gross= grotesque). By now, this creature's capability of adaptation reached its peak. Its original body can now sustain more than just dead parts and leftovers, and starts to become a full, complete body. Using what was once a dead organ, the host starts to overdeveloped the brain, projecting its abilities, such as hallucinations and nausea, as a weapon towards potential predators.
The X is blue on the shiny because the X is gold on the reg. For both normal and mega Metagross, the shiny form has silver replace blue, blue replace gold, and gold replace silver.
Seriously, what would be a good team to run with Mega-Metagross? I've wanted to run him for a while, and even hatched a shiny beldum a while back in april. I've heard Hydreigon and landorous-t, thrown around, but what would you fellas recommend?
I'll type up my sets for my steel team in a moment after the current restaurant battle I'm in. Also, my opinions should be taken with a grain of salt as I'm a sub-1600 shitter.
Hydreigon @ Choice Scarf
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
- Draco Meteor
- Dark Pulse
- Fire Blast
This one was suggested in the viability ranking thread. revengekills lots of stuff and got momentum in it
for magnezone a trapper set with specs or scarf
My current sets:
Metagross @ Assault Vest
Lucario @ Lucarionite
Aegislash @ Weakness Policy
Mawile @ Life Orb
Empoleon @ Leftovers
Ferrothorn @ Rocky Helmet
I'd also appreciate any advice people have for my team, particularly Empoleon.