I think Lucario would look better if its longer dreads draped in front of the shoulders, so it would look like its wearing a headdress. Personally I don't mind them, but I know people don't like the shoulder spikes too. Having the dreads in the front would cover them up most the time. It would become like Sharpedo's nose spikes, where people don't mind them as much if they aren't always visible.
Allow me to state my opinions through words about the Mega designs. >Abomasnow Hard design to work with, I can see. To some people, it looks like a clusterfuck of frosted tips, but to me, it's intimidating. Mid-tier. >Absol All of your memes aside, it's okay. The fallen angel motif is different, and I can appreciate the idea. Mid-tier. >Aerodactyl Based on the the fact that Pokémon proposes the design to be Aerodactyl's actual appearance in prehistoric times, it's really stupid. That being said, Megadactyl kicks ass in battle. Low-tier design. >Aggron Personally, I don't care much for this design, but it's obvious they intended it to be a bulkier Aggron. Mid-tier in my opinion. >Alakazam Some like it, some don't. I personally love the transition into a wise old wizard. Gives it more character that way. High-tier. >Altaria Is that a pirate hat made of nimbus on its head? Oh, and high-tier…ish. >Audino Not sure if the design is baseless or not, but I think it's cool. High tier for originality, I guess.
>>23299658 Just judging on its appearance, did Slowbro ever look like a Psychic type? Mega evolutions bring out the latent abilities of a pokemon. Now why would a dopey, slow pokemon be a psychic type, a type that implies amazing cognitive abilities? Balancing on its tail, not only its own weight, but the weight if the Shellder that got even bigger, would require immense concentration on top of concentrating on the battle at hand. If Mega Slowbro isn't balancing on its tail due to its cognitive capabilities finally surfacing, then it could be also explained with Slowbro's psychic abilities being so advanced, that using them to keep balance is as normal to it as breathing. If that's the case, then it brings up the question: just how far can its psychic abilities go when it can exert them so effortlessly? It's finally acting like a proper Psychic type, and it's goofy looking mega for a goofy pokemon.
>>23299658 Going with this design choice, it makes a lot more sense than having a shell point. Also, I like how after originally being bitten on the tail, the tail is one of the only parts that are free now.
>>23299678 >Aerodactyl Good point. Does that mean we can expect all Fossil pokemon to get megas? >Altaria Think it's supposed to be a bonnet. >Audino Nothing really stands out about it. I guess you could say it's good at keeping what Audino already had. If anything, it's very unoriginal for that. Also, not sure what the curly things around its chest-tuft are for.
The key to having a fantastic Mega design is to take a Pokemon's main defining feature and enhancing the original design based off of it.
Mega Mawile is so simple yet so effective this way. That's why it's so unanimously loved by the fans.
Mega Kangaskhan does this right in a different way. The idea of the parent Kanga giving the enhancements of the mega stone to her child in order to fight alongside it is simply genius.
Mega Alakazam is great too. The change from being a mere magician to becoming a goddamned wizard is a fantastic concept that ties together so well.
To a lesser extent, Mega Gallade is doing it right too. The Gardy line is supposed to be a loyal guardian/loyal warrior kind of thing, and now Gallade looks the part in my eyes.
Blastoise gets more cannons, and hey. That's pretty fucking cool to me. I don't even care if the guns at the side of its shell are gone. It's following my idea of what makes a good mega design, and I like it.
Things that did it completely wrong include Aerodactyl and Sharpedo. If I were to design Mega Sharpedo, I would've taken Sharpedo's original design, and made it look more like a torpedo, a bit of mechanical flare thrown into it.
slowbro doesn't concentrate to achieve its psychic abilities, it spaces out. that's the whole point of the pokemon. that's why it can balance itself so effortlessly, because it doesn't have to think about it.
I think it's more the case of simply being a fourth wall observer-type psychic where they know they are in a work of fiction and thus can do whatever the fuck they want, like when you're in a lucid dream.
>>23299764 >The key to having a fantastic Mega design is to take a Pokemon's main defining feature and enhancing the original design based off of it
No, it isn't. That's only if they choose to enhance it. They could work off another concept altogether, and as long as the concept emerges from the original and is conveyed in the design, then it's a good design.
And the main purpose of megas is to look like a powered up form of the original, and they all achieve that.
It's not just enhancing a feature, it's reflecting the changes. Mawile gets two maws because its power literally doubles with huge power. Gengar gets the eye from Mean Look on its head, and phases through the ground to lock into your shadow, and becomes prone to ground moves. Metagross regains its magnetism/levitation by combining with its prior forms, reflecting its speed increase.
Megas only need to look powered up, and convey how exactly they're powered up. Capitalizing on the defining features is a plus, but not all pokemon have strongly defining features, like Abomasnow, so you just need the first two.
Also, Sharpedo does look more like a torpedo. They opted for organic flare with the sawteeth and scars, because it already looked a bit too mechanical with the flat backside, and it's supposed to be both. Aerodactyl doesn't have much to hightlight, so they just made it more menacing and its type more clear, with a slight nod to Rathalos thrown in.
>Top Tier Mega Charizard Y Mega Beedrill Mega Gyarados Mega Metagross Mega Rayquaza
>High Tier Mega Charizard X Mega Gengar Mega Steelix Mega Sceptile Mega Aggron Mega Mawile Mega Camerupt Mega Latios Mega Gallade Mega Audino Mega Diancie
>High-Mid Tier Mega Blaziken Mega Altaria
>Mid Tier Mega Blastoise Mega Alakazam Mega Pinsir Mega Slowbro Mega Mewtwo X Mega Ampharos Mega Heracross Mega Scizor Mega Houndoom Mega Tyranitar Mega Swampert Mega Gardevoir Mega Manectric Mega Sharpedo Mega Latias Mega Lopunny Mega Lucario Mega Abomasnow
>Low Tier Mega Venusaur Mega Aerodactyl Mega Mewtwo Y Mega Absol Mega Glalie Mega Banette Mega Salamence
>>23300027 This. Although I always interpreted Lucario as more of a 'domestic' or urban pokemon/fighting type like the Hitmons. Not a fan of it myself but there is precedent for the way its default form looks.
>>23300918 Yeah, but along with 2 red spikes that form a heart and different hairs, gloves and belly/chests being covered by something that look like actual cloths. The dress is also a huge chance. It turn from something that look like a 23 year old woman to a 35-40 year old woman that is marrying someone. I think it looks pretty good.
>>23301996 >lol its just opinions guise!! Oh shit anon you're right Nobody knew that before you enlightened us Let's all stop discussing this topic and go our separate ways, more the wiser thanks to this quality informative post
Mega Audino is... just dumb. I would put it in a tier of its own for being the worst design out of all of them.
Every single other Mega Evolution actually looks more powerful and stronger than most non-legendary Pokemon (not all, of course). If you didn't know it was actually a mega, you would see Mega Audino as just another shit blob like Chansey, Blissey, Wigglytuff, Clefable, so on. It's juts a generic shit design for a Pokemon that really would have preffered an actual evolution.
>>23302183 Well, Sableye was my second favorite Pokemon before its mega so that got an exception by me because it's essentially just Sableye anyway. It still looks a little more powerful compared to Audino, but I know what you mean. Just an exception to the rule I guess.
Mega Garchomp gets a lot of hate for being worse than regular Garchomp but I always thought it actually looked like a better version of it. Calling it tryhard is pretty subjective, but I did put Zard-X in the lowest tier for that reason.
>>23302434 Why does it have to be some super extreme uber cool design? Simplicity is sometimes a good thing, not everything has to grow a thousand feet or have a bunch of limbs/or whatever stuck on them.
Plus it makes sense for Sableye, always collecting gems, it gets a gigantic gem shield it can use to hide and protect itself from enemies, it doesn't get scythe hands or a bunch of spikes to use as weapons.
Every mega is fucking awful. Almost all of the designs are tacky/ had little thought put into them, they were put on most of my favorites (aerodactyl, houndoom, absol, ampharos), and they fucked up the entire lore and mythology of the pokemon world (this one might sound autistic but its actually the most important part to me)
so yea I'm throwing them all in shit tier. But I think its a little unfair to stick some of the nicer ones in with the super trashy "just throw spikes on it!" ones, so I did point out the two that I liked. Those other ones had cool concepts and would've worked as new pokemon/ evolutions or something.
I really hope they retcon megas and just pretend it never happened in gen 7. I don't think I could take a mega hitmonlee, scyther, or feraligatr.
>>23302543 I've been with pokemon since the very beginning and loved every generation. While everybody bitched about diamond and pearl I saw the positives, When all my friends stopped playing in gen 5 I kept going and still defend those games,
but mega evolution is really really awful in my opinion. It isn't the change that bothers me, its the fact that it is so gimmicky and tacked on. Its the fact that most of the designs are really really bad. Its the fact that it wasn't implemented properly and given to the mons that needed it, it was instead given mostly just to popular mons.
I have always been all about the character designs, that is what drew me into the series. the mareep line is absolutely perfect for example, each evolution it loses some fluff due to the electricity inside it building. This is such a simple way of showing its getting stronger. Then the mega comes along and sticks the fluff all over and trashes the whole concept. How can that not be grating to you?
The 3D models and fairy type are change, and I welcome those. (even though those also could've been done better. The framerate on X and Y is pathetic and I wish they did a little bit more to fix the type chart flaws. gen 6 has been weak so far honestly. still a fan and still gonna buy the new games but i'm pretty sure there are a lot of people who share my opinions. They aren't really bad.)
oh and goofy dramatic anime poses leading to over-the-top transformations is so fucking cliche it hurts.
lastly, can you honestly tell me that mega-aerodactyl looks good?
>>23302608 I don't care about lore too much. I think if it looks aesthetically pleasing, it's a good design. Pokedex entries are almost exclusively shit and dumb (Magikarp can jump over mountains? Really?), I pay no attention to them.
Mega Aerodactyl just looks like Aerodactyl with rocks added. I don't see how it can go to one of your favorites to literally your least favorite mega out of every single one juts because extra rocks were added
>>23302670 It isn't about the pokedex entry, you can tell thats what is happening simpy by looking at each of the three stages. That's what makes it a thought-out and great design. >Mega Aerodactyl just looks like Aerodactyl with rocks added ...yes. Exactly. They didn't care enough to give it a real design.
If you don't care about pokedex entries, lore, or the basic concepts of evolution that the series is built upon, what the fuck do you care about? If you can stomach megas you can't care too much about character design either.
pokemon appeals to all of us for different reasons. Mega evolution just happens to shit on all the things I like about the series. I can understand it not bothering other people if they like it purely for competitive play, trading cards or contests.
>>23302718 >If you don't care about pokedex entries, lore, or the basic concepts of evolution that the series is built upon, what the fuck do you care about?
I care about design. If the design is good, I like it. I don't really compare it to the base form.
I view Megas as just enhanced versions of the original form. There won't be crazy drastic changes like Snorunt -> Froslass, or Onix -> Steelix. Slowbro has a pretty big change, which was very risky by GameFreak, and I probably in the end would have preferred something better.
>>23301984 I'm this anon by the way, if that brings anything to the conversation.
I don't think "ITS BABBY GETS BIGGER" is at all good design, let alone an actual transformation. Not even a good evolution. All the faggots trying to whiteknight it are just pathetic, especially when so many other designs regardless of what you think of Megas completely blow shit like it out of the water.
I don't get the hate for mega babby. I think the tag-team concept is really unique and I would've done the same thing if I were to make a mega for kangaskhan. It conveys an obvious power boost which megas are supposed to do, I'd rather fight a vanilla kangaskhan than the mega double team.
Ok I guess if I was being kind I'd give you >Mega Charizard Y >Mega Beedrill >Mega Gyarados mega gallade is pretty cool, but they did a few things I wouldn't have. He loses almost all of his green, and his colors are super washed out looking. He's decent.
Mega metagross is so stupid I didn't know anybody liked it. Sceptile looks like a christmas tree, and gengar would be fine if it weren't for the big stupid yellow eye.
I'd like to add mega banette, mega audino, and mega lopunny to my good tiers as well.
nigger shut the fuck up. you can't even make something black anymore without some retarded faggot like you calling it edgy in lieu of actual criticism.
it's a fucking dragon. it's supposed to look tough. additionally, its theme is a solar eclipse to contrast charizard y's blazing sun, hence the crescent shaped all over its body, including its wings. the colors look good and highly distinguish it from the original without drastically changing its shape. it's a smart design that respects its iconic look.
frankly m-ray is overdesigned as fuck by normal pokemon standards, but it's a legendary so the excessiveness works.
Pinsir is the single best mega evolution as a proof of the concept.
It's design is aesthetically pleasing on its own (the tube feet are the only thing I'd change) while also being immediately identifiable as Pinsir and a logical extension of its full potential.
It receives both a typing and ability change, rather than just getting an all around stat boost like Scizor or Tyranitar. It functions differently than its base form, and has 3 different abilities in its base form to choose from which change the way you think about when to mega evolve rather than just activating it immediately.
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