>There are people on this board who genuinely think that Kanto games aren't the next remakes.
I said next REMAKES, not next GAMES
Kanto is not being remade any time in the next decade. Get over it. XY had all the Kantomon anyone could want, and FR/LG mons are still transferable to 6th gen. A remake of gen I at this point would sell horribly. If anything they may just do another sequel set in Kanto (like gen II/HGSS revisited the region), but I doubt Kanto would be the main region.
>A remake of gen I at this point would sell horribly
Are you kidding me? ORAS sold like hot cakes and there was really no reason for them to be made other than fanservice.
There's a whole new generation of kids and young teens who never experienced gen 1 in any way. To them gen 1 remakes would be like whole new games.
/vp/ thinks for some reason that all Nintendo should care about is catering to the adult fan base.
>ORAS sold horribly
Except they didn't. ORAS had more first-year sales than X/Y. They are on track to outsell XY in general within a couple years, maybe shorter (you have to take into consideration that XY have been out a whole year longer).
Well, before ORAS, you couldn't play any Hoenn games on the 3DS. So it's silly to say that remakes weren't necessary. Fans wanted them, the games were 12 years old, it was time. The only reason people don't like ORAS is because of muh Frontier, which I never cared for anyways.
The only region you can't play on 3DS now is Kanto. Not talking about HGSS Kanto, we're talking about FRLG Kanto with Cinnabar still intact and all that shit.
>sold like hot cakes
No it didn't. It sold like shit at maybe 10 million copies. That's the worst selling duo since B2W2 (which were never going to sell amazingly due to being too similar sounding to their predecessors and being released on a dying handheld). Just about every pokemon generation since gen II has been garnering less and less sales, and it's because they keep either dumbing the games down or making pointless remakes.
Kids are an increasingly irrelevant market anyway (birthrates have been falling every year since the 1960s, especially in Japan). If they don't start making the games appeal to EVERYBODY like they used to, sales will continue to fall until the series dies. I can't believe /vp/ will defend this endless stream of remakes and rehashes as anything other than proof of Gamefreak's/Nintendo's mediocrity.
>implying the mods do their job right away
High quality sprites would take far too long to make and people would cry about "bad graphics" because 3d > 2d no exceptions, according to the uninformed (who make up a very large portion of the consumer base)
We're going to be stuck with the current 3d models and lifeless anims for a while
Personally I don't mind. I really love Kanto, feels like home. I just hope that they manage to make the region, towns and routes a bit bigger, and maybe make the inside of houses feel like there's actually someone living in them.
Maybe add something to Sevii Isles to make them more fleshed out. Give us a bit more to do post game.
Also, make it so that the NPCs aren't always talking about how great or amazing Pokemon are. I want interesting dialogue.
I also don't want it on the X and Y engine. I'm fairly tired of it.
I agree. Framerate drops were a bit silly. I believe that if you have a New 3DS then it should trigger the flag needed for it to run better. I probably worded that like shit. But games like MGS3 that ran like shit before run real well on it if you change the megahertz or whatever to a higher number. I don't know why they wouldn't have the Pokemon games trigger that flag.
>Kids are an increasingly irrelevant market anyway
Holy shit please be b8
The whole reason the games are so casualized now is because today's generation of kids are stupid as fuck, raised by technology.
Masuda even implied it in an interview.
The average gamer is a guy in his thirties. Kids are a shrinking slice of the demographic pie in aging developed societies (read: places where people can afford to buy games), and the few kids there are prefer iOS games and casualshit anyway. So no, it isn't "b8". They can either make these games appeal to a broader demographic, or they can be content to watch sales decline with each new Pokemon game.
That isn't to say they need to kill off characters, put blood in trainer battles, use hyper-realistic graphics, etc. They can do what they did in gen BW by giving veteran players a novel experience beyond what is expected from a pokemon games, or giving the protagonists and villains realistic or relatable motivations. Also, NOT getting rid of cool features veteran players remember and like from older games would go a long way (eg. pokemon that follow you, the game corner, the battle frontier, etc.).
My point is that whether they like it or not, people who have been with the series since RBY are a sizable portion of the playerbase, and they would be releasing a third remake at their own peril.
>The average gamer is a guy in his thirties
How can you believe this? The average gamer is between 13-30. I'm a gamer and I'm 21 and I started playing video games consistently when I was six. All of my friends who game are in their early-mid 20s or younger.
>watch sales decline with each new Pokemon game.
Pokemon is still selling great, even if there's a decline by a million or two Nintendo is not gonna give a fuck because they are still making an assload of money. Unless pokemon game sales get cut in half or something, they are not gonna be concerned.
>Wanting a remake of a remake in a game series that's already extremely formulaic.