>>24595256 By the way, don't get my use of "commercials" wrong. They were very good (the BW2 trailer moreso, the ORAS one really was more focused on showcasing megas than trying to give story breadcrumbs).
>>24595245 An actual story. Character development for every character, even Team Rocket which is strange. The Pokémon all have unique personalities and development. Not every character is stuck as a COTD and the music is amazing. I can't get over the Laverre remix. The romance is nice too if you are into that shit.
>>24595312 I'm not gonna be one of those fags from the general that go on about "B-BUT XY ASH IS DIFFERENT". Because he isn't. He's different if you got done watched Best Wishes. If you went from DP to XY then he's still the same but he has gotten bits of development throughout XY. He's even getting a character arcwith Greninja in XY&Z for that retarded Greninja fusion thing.
>>24595339 Ash went into the region expecting to win the first gym without even breaking a sweat with Pikachu and his newly caught Fletchling but got body slammed because he was reckless and didn't come up with a strategy before hand, which made him go through Episode 5 and 6 of XY which was him developing from Serena's words that he told her back when they were younger.
He did again when he kept losing to Mega Lucario and thought using someone else's strategy would work even though it didn't match Ash or his Pokémon at all and he almost got beaten before even fighting Lucario again.
>>24595417 So basically everything he has done in every region fucking ever?
You don't understand, do you? There's nothing they can do with Ash at this point, he should be a massively skilled trainer, yet he's not. The only aspect of his character they have left is his romantic relationships, which they are fortunately addressing (or seemingly, at least).
Just because BW Ash regressed a fuck load, and XY Ash is back to normal, doesn't mean that XY Ash has "developed". Anyone can tell you that the Pokemon anime has terrible writing, you're being delusional.
>>24595339 ">from shit kid in BW that is incompetent as fuck to somebody that actually knows his shit >gets depressed after losing his first gym battle until he's reminded that he shouldn't give up >he has sticked to that motto every since >during the shows go you see Ash becoming more set himself as a leader of the group and everybody looks up to him. Has never happened before. >has a hard time with his battle style and tries one he's not comfortable with at Korrina's gym >it went to shit and he realized he couldn't take anyone's else battle style and needed to use his own >actually takes the gym leaders advices >steadily becomes much more competent and strategic using much advanced strategies which you can see if you compare the first gym battle to latest gym battle >the kid will literally make an evolution that has only happened before >lots more to come in XYZ
I'm not going to write a novel here but here are a few examples.
It's always retarded to try to argue against shit you don't know anything about. ALWAYS.
>>24595357 And how much may I asked? Why do you watch it if you do watch it if you think it's crap? How can I take you opinion seriously when you say shit like that without explaining why. Literally use fucking memes because you don't have any better. Fucking pathetic. If you don't agree, fucking tell me why instead of hiding behind sarcasm and memes you dip.
>>24595454 There's the thing. It fucking is. >DP Ash had few actual strategies before the league and when he used one it was "counter shield everything" or something retarded like swallowing its own energy ball which was used like one time >XY Ash is more strategic in battles and doesn't rely on brute force as much to win. Especially shown in the latest gym battle. >XY Ash is not has hot headed and more mature than DP Ash
There's both a skill difference and a personality difference XY Ash doesn't rely as much on brute force and is both more mature and competent than DP Ash.
>>24595518 >DP Ash had few actual strategies before the league Ergo, DP Ash actually developed as a character. And if DP Ash, in the end of the series, was a good strategist, then it's NATURAL that XY Ash is ALSO a good strategist. Common sense.
>>24595532 I don't really see were you are going. You pretty much proved me right. That he was a good strategies in the beginning of XY just like in the end of DP and has become even better since. Which is one of the departments he has developed in.
>>24595548 He lost his temper pretty often. Just look at the episodes when Barry is featured. And those were hardly the only episodes he became hotheaded. It has pretty much never happened in XY. He was more hot tempered in AG, I agree but his head was still pretty hot in DP.
>>24595586 >I don't really see were you are going. You pretty much proved me right. That he was a good strategies in the beginning of XY just like in the end of DP and has become even better since. Which is one of the departments he has developed in. That if he developed into a good strategist in DP, then that was development he suffered in DP, not in XY. You're attributing this whole "Ash is a good strategist" thing to XY, when it started back in DP.
>>24595560 DP Ash did the same fucking thing. This isn't stuff exclusive to XY Ash. What, you think "ash coming up with a unique strategy on the fly" is something XY invented? Come the fuck on, he's been doing that at least since Johto.
>>24595654 Not really. He scammed attacks and lost badly until his Sceptile survived an attack that he shouldn't have and spammed another attack which took down Darkrai. The only real strategic was sleep talk heracross which he didn't make up at the spot.
Saying to pikachu to jump on latios back and spam thunderbolt is not the most advanced strategy.
I mean, XY Ash literally makes his pokemon grab his opponent's pokemon while counting until next future sight would hit by observing how long it took for the last one to hit and then thrww his opponents right into their own future sight. DP Ash wasn't simply on this level.
>>24595447 >from shit kid in BW that is incompetent as fuck to somebody that actually knows his shit Going from good to shit, then to good again doesn't really count as character development. >gets depressed after losing his first gym battle until he's reminded that he shouldn't give up Being a little bitch is not character development. >he has sticked to that motto every since He has not been acting any different since then. >during the shows go you see Ash becoming more set himself as a leader of the group and everybody looks up to him. Has never happened before. Because everyone he travelled with before could pull their own weight. >has a hard time with his battle style and tries one he's not comfortable with at Korrina's gym >it went to shit and he realized he couldn't take anyone's else battle style and needed to use his own Minor struggles. >actually takes the gym leaders advices When has he refused to take their advice? >steadily becomes much more competent and strategic using much advanced strategies which you can see if you compare the first gym battle to latest gym battle This happens every season. >the kid will literally make an evolution that has only happened before Not character development.
>>24595205 >Origins Nah, it felt more like a special to make people who got into Pokemon Gen 1 buy XY because Black and Blue Charizard >ORAS >A 5 minute trailer www >BW2 It's just a 5 minute trailer, though I would be interested in how the rest of the anime would have played out. That said, I'm 90% sure it'd just been what the XY anime is now, but with different characters.
>oh, this show is so good now, it's really moving places and not just repeating itself for the sixth time!
isn't going to be valid when the same thing happens for the sixth time. Ash is going to lose like always, drop all his best Pokémon like always, and head to the next region like always to do it all again a seventh time.
And the ashnime general will then go "b-but he's going to win for real THIS time!" that Gen as well.
>>24596756 >people like thing I have decided to hate with every fiber of my being no matter what >there's a possibility the people that like it will dislike some plot point years into the future >that means I should spend multiple hours of every single day shitposting about said thing
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