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What are some retro games that have celebrities in them?
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>>3630043
Pedophile child rapist criminal liberal scum fuck bill clinton was also in ready 2 rumble fyi
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someone give me some games with donald trump in them
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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>3623563

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like ladied and gentlemen ~~

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SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME...
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=== NEWS ===

[11-19] MetaDoom v2.0 is out
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=53010

[[11-19] Custom Gun: The Gun-ening. Done by the Hexen Souls author
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=54303

[11-14] Doom 64-style map textures for Doom 2
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=54248

[11-13] Blade of Agony Chapter 1 release
http://www.moddb.com/mods/wolfendoom-blade-of-agony/news/blade-of-agony-chapter-1-released

[11-9] Suddenly a Russian Overkill update
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=29915&p=953003#p953003

[11-9]...
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first for cacodemons are qt
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>~~ Let's post like ladied and gentlemen ~~
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I want to talk about the history of the RPG video game. We all know it began as a simulation of the tabletop RPG experience but I feel discussion beyond that is sparce. How long do you think the genre tied into D&D, when did it become it's own thing, if ever? Is it still linked to the tabletop experience? Is the name "RPG" archaic or does it sill accurately describe the genre? Since RPGs started as a way to abstract things that couldn't be performed in reality of by video games of the time, do you think they are becoming obsolete now that we have the technology to adapt those systems in a more literal, action gameplay manner?
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>>3629427
>How long do you think the genre tied into D&D
To this day.
>when did it become it's own thing
Since the first videogame RPG ever created.
>Is it still linked to the tabletop experience?
Arguably, though it depends from case to case.
>Is the name "RPG" archaic or does it sill accurately describe the genre?
RPG is a term that is always used inaccurately in the case of videogames, so I'd argue that even inside the category of RPGs only a handful of games are RPGs in the actual sense of the word, and even so, they're nothing like pen and paper or tabletop RPGs, the closest you get to that might be MUDs, and those are hardly games and more like actual autism simulators for people who don't have the relatively low social skill requirements to LARP or get a campaign going.
>Since RPGs started as a way to abstract things that couldn't be performed in reality of by video games of the time
Take a deep breath and rewrite this sentence so I can understand what you're asking.
>do you think they are becoming obsolete now that we have the technology to adapt those systems in a more literal, action gameplay manner?
Action based genres almost always don't involve roll checks and abstract decisions and commands or reduce them to the bare minimum, so they're even less proper RPGs if you're a purist.

RPGs in the general are gambling games when you're supposed to make a bet of sorts and reap or suffer the consequence, and that is only really just a miinor part of traditional RPGs, give the player more and more control over the actor's actions and you'll further stray from the RPG formula into other genres.
Then again, most videogame called RPGs are far from the original concept of RPG, maybe stuff like Dwarf Fortress might be the closest to the actual concept of RPG, but it's still a far cry, and not retro anyway.

tl;dr: the term RPG is a vague, nebulous category when applied to videogames that nobody can truly define.
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>How long do you think the genre tied into D&D, when did it become it's own thing, if ever?

It was it's own thing with Dragon Quest. Even FF which is heavily based on D&D is nothing at all like playing a tabletop game.

In the west things stayed a little closer, but even licensed D&D games were really nothing like playing in a campaign.

> Is it still linked to the tabletop experience?
Only vaguely in theme

>Is the name "RPG" archaic or does it sill accurately describe the genre?

It never accurately described the genre because you're never really roleplaying in any of these games. It just takes it's name from the kind of game it's derived from.

>Since RPGs started as a way to abstract things that couldn't be performed in reality of by video games of the time, do you think they are becoming obsolete now that we have the technology to adapt those systems in a more literal, action gameplay manner?

No because turn based decision making can also be interesting in it's own right. Selecting what you are going to do and then having the outcome based on percentage chances is one of the few ways these games are still similar to RPGs.

Ironically I think RPGs never came as close to simulating tabletop RPGs as Roguelikes did. RPGs are virtually all just pre-written stories that you play through, roguelikes actually have the sense of adventure. To me anyways.
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>>3629427
D&D inspired Ultima and Wizardry. They in turn inspired Dragon Quest, which spawned the whole JRPG genre. Ultima is probably the most influential RPG series there is, even if you don't take Underworld and Online.

> Is it still linked to the tabletop experience?
The very concept of exp gaining started there, so in a way yes.

> do you think they are becoming obsolete now that we have the technology to adapt those systems in a more literal, action gameplay manner?
First, that's like saying that chess became obsolete when we got Total War games. They are two vastly different entities. Games don't necessarily strive to capture reality, they can be completely abstract and still be fun—take Tetris or Go.

Second, of course reading realistic descriptions of fights and such feels kinda archaic today. Video games allow you to visualize stuff for more immersion. But as it was said, "There is great potential for more than hacking and slashing in D&D or AD&D; there is the possibility of intrigue, mystery and romance involving both sexes, to the benefit of all characters in a campaign." And frankly, video games don't offer much new in terms of the latter. They just do the same thing movies do, show the picture story. What are you gonna do, press F to fall in love?

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Did crpgs back then really take a big team and one year to make? I want to make a crpg in the same vein as older games, but I'll be doing it as a small team. I've made games before so Im not worried about if I can do it. Just whether if it's out of scope unless I put a lot of time into it.
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>>3629335
Spiderweb games is basically 1 man. Currently one man and one femanon.
http://www.spiderwebsoftware.com/come_aboard.html

He created a whole series of games. Well ,4 series of games in retro Ultima 6-like style and in 3D.

It can be done with modern tech and a little talent.
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Back when? Richard Garriot made dozens of RPGs before he even left school.
Writing a script takes time, designing a varied world takes time, playtesting takes time and so on.
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>>3629349
Wtf. 4chan doesn't rike underscores in links.

http://www.spiderwebsoftware.com/products.html

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Hi /vr/, how would a newfag go on about the Castlevania franchise? Should I start with the very first Castlevania game, then slowly but steadily play each one chronological?

Only Castlevania games I've played is Symphony of Night and Curse of Darkness, which I loved the fuck out of
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Release order for Castlevania is pretty good.
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>>3629139
Just skip Aria of Sorrow and you're good.
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>>3629139
Start with CV3, if you find that too hard or not fun skip to Super CV4. If that doesn't do it for you move on to Circle of the Moon and continue from there.

If CV3 did it for you go back to 1 and then play the classics and move on from there.

If SCV4 did it for you, play Bloodlines and Rondo.

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What's your stance on minecart levels? Do you like them?
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ITSA PIZZA SHEET
I WAIPE MA AZZ WITH IT
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ITSA PIZZA SHEET
I WAIPE MA AZZ WITH IT
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I like Panic Coaster so I guess I like them

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Was Legends as good as I think I remember it being?
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No. Legends 2 is miles better.
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Legends 2 and Tron Bonne still hold up, the first game is solid for its time but kind of a chore to play now.
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Why do people like these games. They look awkward with shitty cameras, why would anyone play these over any 2d megaman? It just forces the game into 3d, what is 1 good thing.

Where did it all go so wrong for Sega? Was it the decision to keep leaching off the aging hardware of the Genesis with the Sega CD and 32x? Was it the misguided Saturn, with it's cumbersome design, difficulty to program for, and lack of games? Was it the Dreamcast failing to compete with Sony?

inb4
>"buh-but the Saturn did the 2D better than the ps1!"
"buh-but the Saturn had good games in Japan!!"
"buh-but the Dreamcast was a perfectly sound competitor to the ps2!!"
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32X was a stop gap mistake that cost Sega too much cash. More mistakes on the handling of NA market licenses for the Saturn furthered the trouble. Dreamcast was excellent, but it was far too late by that point.
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Cancelling Sonic Extreme, for starters.
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I think what killed them more than anything was their poor corporate culture. Different parts of the company wouldn't cooperate or coordinate with each other, and the higher ups would do nothing about it. This also led to people spending way more money than reasonable on their own projects, meaning that decisions were being made that weren't necessarily in the interest of Sega as a whole.

Like when Sega Europe spent a shitload on Dreamcast marketing and could have gotten equivalent exposure for a fraction of the cost if they just hadn't tried to go through FIFA.

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https://youtu.be/TCUdhcRQMC4
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LHoelhn87o
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdkDYUc_Keg

And the boss theme.
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https://youtu.be/sC0cvwnG0Ik

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Do you like your CRT monitors curved or flat? Which is better for retro gaming?
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I used to prefer flat back when I was a kid, but now I really appreciate rounder ones better, they remind me of arcade cabinets screens.
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Curved pretty much in every way except for glare. A curved screen will catch reflections from any light source in the room while flat ones can just be angled away from them and not.
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>>3625992
I have this weird ass Polaroid one that has a curved tube but there's a flat pane of glass shielding it. Haven't tried the 240p test suite on it, but I haven't gotten any noticeable distortion out of it, and the screen margins are aligned correctly as well.

What are so good Metroid-like games?

I just played Super Metroid and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III: Radical Rescue and I'm begging for more.

I already know about SOTN thank you.
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>>3625292
There aren't all that many that are 5th gen and prior, but you'd really enjoy Castle in the Darkness and La Mulana
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>>3625294
>Castle in the Darkness

That looks nice indeed, I'll probably give it a try.

I tried getting into La Mulana a while back but stopped playing after 2-3hours. I'm not sure why but it didn't hook me up.

Have you tried Odallus: The Dark Call ? I quite enjoyed it.
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>>3625292
There's a whole genre of games called "Metroidvania"

Try googling it. Also consider Super Metroid hacks. I especially recommend Eris and Hyper Metroid.

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Greetings /vr/.

I just got this gay pink gameboy and I want to remove the paint and make it beige.

Should I use paint thinner or nail polish remover?

How long should I leave the liquid on and what should I use to wipe it off?
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Don't destroy a perfectly good console, faggot.
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>>3625062
It's not pink; It's salmon!
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>>3625062
There is no paint to remove.

The plastic is dyed.

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How come communist countries didn't make very many games in the retro days?
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>>3622548
http://www.15kop.ru/en/
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>>3622548
Singapoor here. China was already making pirated consoles and carts in the 80s and 90s and exported them here, before "free trade" made the cops catch 'em all, instead of catching illegal migrants.
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>>3622560
Damn, they couldn't bother to just set up a designated shitting street, and swoop in on the illegal immigrants there? Not sure how they'd get the rest.

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I know games don't really age, but I used to play the shit out of PSO back in the dreamcast days, and always considered it in my top 3 grindan games.

But after replaying it on ephinea, I realized how obnoxious the whole having to clear rooms format is and how boring it makes the game, it seems to only truly be fun when someone carries you to higher levels and gets you better gear so you can just fuck around doing w/e you want.

But playing it the long way? Without being carried, holy shit its bad, the grind is intense and most classes are garbage until they...
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>>3621371
>But playing it the long way? Without being carried, holy shit its bad, the grind is intense and most classes are garbage until they get to at least hard mode. You always feel so weak even on normal when everything is piss easy

Yeah, it's really not a lot of fun. I've tried to complete it offline on two different occasions, probably accruing 90 hours over both a Gamecube save file and a Dreamcast save file, and I can just never bring myself to finish it. The grind is simply...
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>>3621382
>>3621371

I think you two just don't have the same addictive personality that people like me do.

I still fire up PSO from time to time. Not even to really hunt items anymore. I mostly play an ironman combined with living off the land style.

Also, OP is admittedly shit at the game. Play c-mode and you learn quickly. Or don't. And continue to think the game sucks and is hard.
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>>3621559
I don't think the game sucks, and I wouldn't say I'm shit at the game though you can make that inference if you want, but I am pretty seasoned at it, I've played every class to high level and have a high level of experience, I'm just kinda talking about how boring it can be at times, I used to be able to autist grind on this game back in the day, but upon returning to for the first time since the gamecube days, do kinda find that I don't like some of its features the same way I did way...
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When did it become cool to underrate this game? Just because it's a console game with limited frame rate? That's incredibly stubborn. People need to be reminded that this game hugely innovated and added to the first person genre (and games in general). It's very insulting for PC players to suggest that Half-Life, System Shock 2, Deus Ex, Thief, etc, are the best games ever, but not acknowledging Goldeneye (which admittedly by the developers had direct influence on those games) at all.
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What is wrong with his mouth?
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Wait, it's cool to hate on GoldenEye now? Smells like bait to me. A lot of people point to it (or Halo) as the start of the explosion of the FPS genre that's everywhere now, tho I'd disagree (Doom, Wolfenstein 3D, Marathon, Duke Nukem anyone?). There's no denying that it was insanely popular and is one of the best games on that system. Honestly, for a quick pick-up-and-play party style game, it's even better than Perfect Dark (tho Perfect Dark has a much better storyline and atmosphere).
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>>3617560
Good game, but it's tough to play nowadays. Just has not aged even remotely well.

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Is there a more based composer than pic related?
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Is that Pewdiepie?
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>>3616609
looks like doctor xavier
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>>3616608
DUDE
ARPEGGIOS
LMAO

How come none discusses this game? is it that bad?
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Battles take forever, so the only thing in your mind is the battle theme. The NES games did the fighting better - battles are much quicker there.

This game is actually a remake of the first 2 NES games.

Final boss theme is fucking sick:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YlHBG4Q_qw
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It's often mentioned on Dragon Ball vidya threads, even on /v/. That game was very popular thanks to emulators back in the early 00s. It's pretty good, a 16-bit remake of the first 2 Famicom DBZ games.

The third part remained only on Famicom, it was actually released late into the Famicom's life, and after Super Saiyajin Densetsu on SFC.
There is also DBZ Gaiden (which served as the source for the OVAs).
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>>3613195
The third game was also incomplete, since the final boss was Imperfect Cell. I think the manga wasn't even in that part yet.

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What games are just too good to put down?
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>>3632867
That game is garbage.
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>>3632867

Is this a new meme? You've been posting this game over and over this past week.

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Recommend me some 2D sidescrollers for PSX, Ive only played Klonoa and Tomba
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Silhouette Mirage.
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>>3632724
megaman x 4
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Abe's Oddysee and Exoddus
Castlevania Chronicles

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What retro games let you do the devil's work...for no reason
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>>3633134
Other than your parents, why would anyone be mad about how much of a fuck up you are?
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Go Go Ackman
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>>3633145
You and >>>/pol/ seem to care a lot. Enough to make an endless number or bait thread in almost every board.

Wanna pretend you're retarded?

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So after playing a little fallout 4 (having never played any in the series) I decided to start from the bottom as Drake would say and I download Fallout 1 and 2, then on a classics binge I got Diablo 1, 2 and the expansions.

I have a really shit computer, it's a 10 year old Toshiba and even Sims 2 was impossible to play on this. But these old school games actually work, so can I get suggestions for games like this?
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How about MechCommander? It has the isometric view of Fallout and Diablo, the sci-fi and tactical aspect of Fallout and the real-time action of Diablo.
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Do you like RTS's? There's plenty to choose from. Age of Empires, Command and Conquer, Total Anihilation, just to name a few.

Old-school CRPG are another good choice. Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, Planescape Torment.
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>>3632528
Try the Spiderweb software games, all of them are RPG's that feature a tactical battle system and well detailed story.

Exile is their main series which you can definitely run, Avernum was their remake of that series which I mainly recommend and I'm 80% sure you can run. The other spin-off games like Nethergate and Geneforge are more hit-and-miss.

Personally I'd try out Blades of Avernum and see if you like it, then go from there. They offer a very generous demo on their website.

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Marco, my boy
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dude alexandria and jason lmao i just wonder what ganon's up to!
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>>3632440
So, were they his actual family or was he just delusional? I never quite figured it out.
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>>3632493
It doesn't matter. Nothing that happened in that game mattered. You don't matter.

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I finally pulled the trigger and ordered an NESRGB kit and a multi-out socket kit. Any idea what I'm in for? The most complicated mod I've done so far is a McWill Game Gear screen mod.
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>hey guys with m I in 4???? XD


Hate these kind of threads.
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>>3632242
Good luck desoldering the PPU
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>>3632242
If you have no experience with desoldering this kind of chips, you are in for broken traces, damaged pads and disappointment.

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What are some old games that only patricians appreciate?
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Sorry the word is "ludo".

Tarkovsky also directed Stalker (Yes, I had to google to verify that, pardon my waste of intelligence not memorizing the IMDB top 250). Which the game is also not /vr/etro.
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>>3632121
Sonic 3D Blast.
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Daikatana.

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>mfw I looked up Jeremy Blaustein's name in Jordan then dialed him on the videophone

I love this sort of shit.
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>>3632063
Gillian: Hey Jeremy, how's your brother, I mean sister.
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Battlezone 2000 on the Lynx

http://www.ataritimes.com/index.php?ArticleIDX=37
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>>3632063
Is Dopefish still alive?

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What does /vr/ think of this.
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>>3631748
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>>3631758
But you can save your character for less
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>>3631748
Inferior port but not bad

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Any websites where I can play retro fighting games against people online?
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www.yourcouch.com
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fightcade breh
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>>3632094
This, Fightcade is a program you can download where you play online. It's the successor to GGPO I believe.

I play ST on there all the time.

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>Lol let's call it G Darius so all the dyslexic Gradius fans buy our game!


This is my shitty excuse to start a Gradius vs Darius thread. Which do you prefer? Gradius upgrade system is definitely cooler
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You mean it's not a reference to G Gundam?
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>>3631619
You're stupid. Poop yourself.
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Where else do you go to discuss retro games and the playing thereof?
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>>3631464
GameFAQs
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Gaia
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>>3631464
My friends.

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Why didn't the Super Nintendo have a headphone jack like the Sega Mega Drive?
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Because Nintendo knew that was retarded
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>>3631158
It was done on purpose to fuel console wars.

>>3631162
Loved it as a teen.
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Because the fucking tv has one.


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