Is this how /vr/ raises their children and feeds them with retro games instead of old musical artifacts? I hope not. I hope you let your children in peace and let them enjoy gaming and don't torture them with NES hell or other similar torture devices of the old age. Just because you had a hard childhood growing up with these mess of consoles, you don't have to force it onto your children. NES and other is a dying relict for the modern age, no child would bear to play through these games because they look ugly, their unfair and they're no fun. There is literally no benefit for a child to play these games, unlike you guys when you were small. I understand, you had nothing else but this mess back then and I pitty and I grieve with your for you PTSD experienced from NES and others. But please don't do this to your children. Let them explore those old gems themselves when they are older and when THEY want, by free will. If you insist to give them something old, at least have mercy on their sould and give them something that is fun like n64 or a ps2 or a game boy color BUT GOD FORBID NO NES SNES OR SEGA STONEAGE SHIT!!! Please don't do this to your children, don't torture them! I don't want our children to grow up and became social outcast like we here on this thread, just because you guys forced them to play with old consoles , so the children couldn't socialize with the other children! How could you do something unhumane like this to your own children? My boy has a nintendo 3ds with pokemon X and he is very happy :) I wish happiness to all your children as well. Please don't break their spirit for your ego.
I wonder why you won't setup a cheap micro computer of the time which would literally be the price of candy considering today you can get one that can emulate upto PS1 for 30USD , i imagine they'd be even cheaper by the time you spawn a child.
nothing they can wreck except the controllers that's why cheap ones from china exist.
When I was young, I had an N64, and I still played NES games when I felt like it, which was often.
If you enjoy a game, you enjoy a fucking game. You don't dislike a movie for being old unless you're clinically retarded. Same goes for games.
but how are your kids going to play Civilization?
As a kid I played mainly arcade, SNES games (although half of the game I owned were arcade ports of fighting games), and DOS games like Colonization, Sim City 2000 or Master of Orion.
Also, the most popular modern game for kids is Minecraft on PC.
you should buy your kid what he wants to play and not what is generally considered popular. if your kids wants a wii u then it is probably popular in his circle of friends. how pathetic would it be to buy a child something he doesnt want just so he could have what the public considers popular.
>You don't dislike a movie for being old
>unless you're clinically retarded.
how many silent films have you watched and recommend to people that they watch them today?
in the future this would be an even wider gap of accessibility in all mediums including videogames.
talking to others children via social media which is sadly the norm today, is still more social than having no social contact. i think you get my point. why would you isolate your children? you could still engage your child and their friends in real social activities. the only issue i worry is cyber security. i would be scared to leave my children roam free on the internet, like me when I was 11 and downloaded a dialer for gay porn on our family computer.
Please learn how paragraphs work.
Also, forcing your kid to have fun your way is stupid. So is just letting fads and outside sources dictate all fun for him. My son likes some modern games and some retro games. He plays modern games with his friends. I never forced him to like retro games, he just saw me playing and wanted in, and it's our way to have fun. Sometimes he plays retro games on his own because he feels like it.
It's not about "new" or "old", it's about what's fun FOR HIM. If there are things I find fun I'll share them with him, and if he likes it then great, more stuff for him to enjoy. If he doesn't then he'll just move on.
According to your logic reading Grimm tales to him was wrong because it's creepy, hard to get stoneage shit and all I should be reading to him are current children's book (which barely hold his attention by the way).
>but how are your kids going to play Civilization?
Civilisation takes patience(much more than RPGs) which the generations millennial+ don't have.
Unless you spawn something that's got an IQ and attention span to sustain it , I doubt they'd play civilisation or any RTS for that matter.
okay but the gap between nes and n64 wasnt as huge as it between ps4/xbone/wiiu and nes. kids nowadays even have problems coping with a classic gameboy.
how the hell would they cope with a nes. Of course they are a few children with a high IQ or with some form of autism from the autism spectrum. Maybe when you a special child, a very intelligent one, who also likes math and stuff and is interested in older stuff, then I would give the child retro consoles to explore and satisfy his knowledge hunger. Of course only if the child would be interested. An average intelligent child wouldnt bother with NES and gameboys for more then a day.
I totally agree with you. That was my point. I think you misunderstood or misread my logic because I never stated what you are claiming, you interpreted that. My opinion is don't force stuff on your children, just let them play whatever they want. Just not too much and all day ;)
And don't force retro stuff on them!!
Why are we replying to a bait thread? It's not even subtle.
why am I replying, god damn
>When I was young, I had an N64, and I still played NES games when I felt like it, which was often.
OP, you might have a point for NES games IF parents really ever did do that. For some NES games there is literally no reason to play now.
But your lumping SNES games in there near the end shows you don't know absolute shit what you're talking about and are a clueless fuck who was stumbling around and came on something that could have been right. So I have no faith in your contention that parents ever do this, fuck you.
Actually, I think RPGs, specifically turn-based RPGs, require much more patience than strategy games like Civilization because of its emphasis on grinding. Unlike in Civilization, where the overall situation changes every turn, thus keeping the game fresh, in RPGs you face the same situations over and over throughout the game, which is way more boring.
Fixed it for you.
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If I had kids I wouldn't force retro gaming on them, but I would definitely give them the opportunity to take a look and try it out. Not all old games are unfairly difficult. FFS some of the best games of the 8/16-bit generations are actually the comfier, more forgiving titles.
I don't believe it's about repetition (all games involve repetition), it's the fact that it's repetiiton without a great deal of interactivity. ATB systems kinda mix it up a bit, and that's why Final Fantasy became popular to begin with, but in essence you have a very limited say in how to play a turn based RPG. It becomes very samey.
I think in essence if a game is genuinely fun (ie doesn't ask unreasonable patience or whatever), anyone will like it. Action RPGs have a better hold on this because they're not usually hard and are just fun to play, even if you grind. My son loved Soul Blazer (played it because it had "a cool sword on the cover") and is now obsessed with Illusion of Gaia, in fact he's playing it right now. Has been asking to get a real flute for a couple days now.
Also many posters here act like it's a console generation breach. Not so. Let's not forget that for younger generations, mobile gaming is where it's at. Easier and more accesible. Console requires investment, account creation, patches, setups, etc, which involves patience, whereas mobile games are pretty much download and play. Most of the current games my son wants to play because his friends are playing too are mobile. Only very rarely does he even talk about modern consoles. His uncle has a PS3 and he sometimes plays with it, but it's clear he prefers his mobile stuff.
I plan on having a gaming dungeon when I get out out of college for my desktop and my 6th gen and older consoles. If my kids that I may eventually have wanna play shit with me or by themselves they'd be more than welcome to.
When I was a kid I'd watch my dad play (and play later on) games like Final Doom and Half Life and it was cool as fuck. They werent old games then but it isnt like he forced me to be interested in the games or music he owned. He just made what he had availabe to me and let me do my own thing.
Also fuck what that bloggers say that record is fire.
Is the assumption here that just because /vr/ is dedicated to old games, it immediately assumes that no one here plays new games?
It's incredibly hard to talk to little kids. I think you have to have actually been a parent yourself to acquire that skill. At work the other day some kids came up to me excited about bugs. I tried to agree with them and tell them how cool bugs were but was just met with dead silence. It's really hard to keep a conversation going, especially when the parent is right there not helping out at all and enjoying watching you suffer.
I plan on continuing to like what I like when I'm older too, and it would be cool if my kid wanted to join me and get into what I like.
But I'm not going to force them not to find and enjoy their own tastes and hobbies. I knew my kid liked a certain band and they had a recent release on vinyl, I'd probably try to gift them a record player and that new album- combining my hobbies with theirs: its a nice middle ground for you to bond.
this is your typical /vr/ faggot
>wahhh nes games are too hard
>64 games are comfy cozy good feels
like get the fuck out of here you don't even like retro games you like the beginging of the modern era you little shitter faggot.
This is obviously bait, but I agree with the premise: You shouldn't force old games on your kids. If they show interest that's great, but you should let your kid decide what kind of games they want to play.
Kids are people too. As humans, we generally want to be liked and enjoy one anothers' company.
My girlfriend and I won Megan Trainor tickets from Quizzo (more of a punishment for coming in 3rd place), but decided that since it was at a venue we'd never been to that we should at least check it out.
THOUSANDS of pre and early teen girls everywhere. We hung back at the tented bleacher seating when some girl who looked like she had just finished crying (12-14yo) sat next to us (late 20s/early30s couple).
A few minutes later she turned to us and said "This song isn't even on her album, I'm surprised shes singing it". Not knowing anything about Megan Trainor, we just played along and asked questions. She was pretty happy to talk to us, tell us the name of every song and give us wikipedia like facts about the artists.
We didn't really care, but enjoyed cheering this girl up by being interested in what she liked.
It was pretty cool. Kids can be decent when you don't treat them like schmucks.
My kids do play my retro games as a novelty from time to time when they have friends over. They're really bad at them. I think a lot of modern games require far less coordination and timing. It's mind boggling to watch a group of kids that suck at gaming so much.
There's this werid assumption that kids are good at games, but they're fucking terrible at it. I recently went back and replayed some games from my early childhood that I had established back then as hard as fuck and impossible to beat when in reality now I just blazed through them. Maybe it was just me, but as a kid I was terrible at video games.
actually the opposite is true. as a kid you have more motivation, patience and your capacity of reaction is faster. as an adult you get literally tired and slow. fun becomes unfun+harder, except for kiddie games.
I own a Wii U in a country in which Nintendo stuff is very rare and niche, and most people game on not very powerful pcs (Counter Strike, Civilization, Minecraft, and emulating Nintendo or Sega games), or own a last gen Playstation to play mainly Fifa or Pro Evolution Soccer, that is why EA was still making FIFAs for PS2 in the 2010s.
When my brother comes to visit me with his kids using my Wii U to play Smash is almost like going on vacations to disneyland for 2 hours for them.
Nintendo is still well known, but mainly because of emulation.
It's the same way with me. As a kid I had nothing but time to play games but I guess due to lack of experience or just bad reflexes I sucked at them. Now I can breeze through a ton of NES games I used to think were impossible.
That hardly accounts for skill, and it's just weird generalizations. How is a kid more motivated and patient than an adult that considers gaming his main hobby?
Back then we had a lot of free time and very few media to consume, now you can't really make their case. You'll struggle these days to retain the attention span of a kid.
A Wii U game is like 120 dollars here. We dont have e shop. And people who buy Nintendo consoles create fake American or Canadian accounts in order to be able to buy digital games.
I bought mjy Wii U for around 500 dollars, which was a deal since the normal price is over USD 700.
This happens because of retarded taxes.
PS4 must be around 850-1100 dollars depending on the bundle, it is the same in Brazil.
Paraguay (tiny country between Argentina and Brazil, dont confuse with Uruguay) imports with no taxes, and the people who live close to the fronteer can get a smuggled console much cheaper.
Shes pretty cute if she'd shut up about the whole "CHECK OUT MUH CURVES" bullshit.
Concerts are a free for all. Teens are at concerts unsupervised all the time. I'd imagine that would be a top place for predator.
I think her mom may have also been in the "old people's tent" but really wasn't paying her any attention.
I know this post is bait, but are there people that actually think that exposing kids to older forms of media will magically make them out of touch with current trends as if they won't be exposed to them through just being in contact with people their own age anyhow? Do they think that the parents are locking their kids in the house and forcing them to play old games and music with no contact to the outside world like some sort of psychological horror film?
>in these ultra dangerous times where a killer lurks behind every rock.
it's really not as dangerous out there as people think, I think the modern mindset is really hurting kids, kids have no freedom anymore and that's really what kids need to expand their minds and grow as people, it's why the current generation is so nieve and ultra-sensative, because they were never allowed out of site of their parents and allowed to learn how to be themselves.
It's especially noticeable now at Halloween. As a kid I remember the streets were packed with kids. Now where I live (different place but still) I get like 3 come per year and the neighborhoods are deserted. Everyone just takes their kids to schools or churches to get pre-screened community candy. It's tragic.
Young kids will likely want to play retro consoles by their own will. At least when I was a kid the age of the games and graphics made no difference to me, I wanted to play any and all of the games that I could. Hell, I grew up with the original playstation and one of my all time favorite games for it was the Activision Classics collection.
I think that really depends on where you live, I live in a rather safe town and there are usually many kids out and about on halloween, none come to my apartment though, which kind of depresses me.
If my kid sees me play and wonders what it is, I'll invite him to try the games out, but I'm not gonna sit him down and force him.
If he likes some genres of games, I'll highly recommend some of the best titles, show him some videos on youtube, but I don't think he'd be all that excited if I forced him to sit down and play some old NES game which I remember fondly from my childhood, but which isn't actually very good.
Yeah because kids don't totally talk to each other and hang out at school or anything.
My niece and nephew enjoy playing Mario 1 over Mario Wii. They don't have games at home, so I suppose it's visually too much to take in at once.
I wouldn't force my hypothetical kids to play the games I grew up with. Most likely I'll be playing them myself, and I'll let them try if they seem interested.
I somewhat agree with you, but I don't think there is anything wrong with actively sitting a kid down and showing them stuff too as long as you leave the the option to go and do something else if they don't like it and aren't the type that will be offended if they don't like the same things you like.
This is some of the most outstanding shit posting I have ever seen from Captain Autism. Truly, this is some of his finest work.
You have a basic premise that insults the entire board. Fantastic bait. Then you have a rambling tl:dr monologue, followed by some stuff that's meant to bait people into arguing about generations.
Pure brilliance! Truly archive worthy. It proves once again that a site built solely around antagonizing strangers on the internet is a great idea, and truly a good use of your life.
>a fine brothers video
that's all staged garbage with child actors
also even if it wasn't, yes, a kid that isn't interested in older games and has had no exposure to them before in their entire life would not know how to use something like this, but the same thing could be said about anything.
I've been spending time on this site ever since I discovered it on Tumblr. I am attempting to write a thesis on the psychology of the Internet troll. It's truly fascinating stuff.
The subject has been discussed before, at length. However my time on 4chan has really given me some unique insight. Trolling is definitely a by product of mental illness and anti-social psychological problems.
While the term "autism" is thrown around here far too frequently, in many cases, troll topics really do show signs of users who are afflicted with autism, and other autism spectrum disorders.
Many 4chan users will self ridicule by saying they have no friends and spend all their time on the computer. This honestly seems to be honest admission about their personal lives. This self imposed isolation from so called "normies" is clearly a byproduct of their personality problems, anti-social behavior and various form of mental illness.
The desire to cause conflict with strangers on the Internet has actually been proven to be a byproduct of psychotic behavior. It should come as no surprise that this site has seen several real like murderers confess their crimes on these pages.
Of all the boards on 4chan, /v/r has been one of the best for giving me real insight to mentally troubled teens and their online exploits. I can't thank you guys enough, but at the same time, I desperately hope you get the help you need.
Wishing you all the best.
>Study Shockingly Shows Internet Trolls Are Not Very Nice Or Particularly Mentally Healthy In Real Life
I have a 2.1 of 6 rating on primary psychopathy and a 4.1 of 5 rating on secondary psychopathy. My secondary psychopathy rating is higher than 95.66% of others.
You obviously don't traveled a long way on 4chan or are being sarcastic. /vr/ is one of the most peaceful and sophisticated places on 4chan. I really enjoy it and that's why I spend my most time here. People with antisocial personality disorder normally mingle in /pol/ or the worst ones in /r9k/. I visit /pol/ sometimes but I dislike it most of the times. I visited /r9k/ and it was disgusting. Literally the antisocial scum of the earth mingled there. I swore to never visit this board again as it filled me with loath and rage that a board like this is allowed on here. I also quite enjoy /g/. Butmy favourite board is still /vr/ <3
Girl: "You wouldn't have liked if your dad had done this to you when you were 14, would you?"
Dad: "Well, when I was 14 my dad tried to sell me on the Penguins and the Coasters, but this is completely different."
I know OP's a troll and that the article is made for keks but I find it hilarious that there are legit autists on 4chan that would actually make their poor kids play their old shit. I would never do that. If they happen to see me playing an old game and express interest then sure I'll show them but otherwise fuck that. They have their own generation and things to get into, no need to force down old vidya down their faces. If you do that you'll turn them into that one weird kid at school that is completely out of touch with what all the other faggots are doing. Let them develop their own personalities and preferences you mongs.
Anyway it's not like the autists that plan on doing this are gonna actually be reproducing anyway so no biggie.
>Making a kid suffer by putting them on the same world as you lot
Pass, not even my worst enemies deserve putting up with you morons.
"But daaad, I don't want to play the old games, I want to play the new games"
"Too bad son, you're going to get the high score on Super Mario World."
>Hands son n64 controller upside down
>Kid sobs and starts flailing the controller at the screen mashing the buttons
>Atari-era sound fx fill the room
>Dad runs over to press the pause button on the unplugged dreamcast
>SON, YOU DID IT. YOU GOT TO LEVEL 2
>Voice booms over the TV "WELCOME TO LEVEL TWO"
>Dad glances at second controller
>"PLAYER TWO HAS ENTERED THE GAME"
>You know son, I wish my dad took the time to play with me - JUMP UP THERE - see, when I was young he worked a lot and - SHOOT THAT GUY - all I wanted was him to be in my life.
Starring shit 90s actors old enough to be dads with an agent convinced this is their return.
My best friend's kid is 8. His public school gave all the kids ipads. He said the games on tablets are pretty stupid. We played some smash bros, nes punch out and soccer outside yesterday. He also baked a cake by himself for cub scouts. Good kid.
People are acting like it's an all or nothing scenario. That if you introduce a kid to Super Mario, that's the only thing he would ever be able to talk about.
Any reasonable parent with children who like games would give them access to a wide range of games both modern and classic and let them find what they enjoy. Which is what I assume most do. It's what my brother does with his kids and my wife's sister does with her's.
Just like most parents will share the music they like, to introduce the kids to what they enjoy. But there are very few who set the unbreakable rule that they're only allowed to listen to Creedence Clearwater Revival until the age of 18.
>/vr/ raises their children
Hey, I'm gonna force my kids to play Phantasy Star IV and Streets of Rage 2 because my dad forced me to play soccer and now I am attuned to be a projecting parent, not because I'm a sperglord faggot like /vr/ is about their tastes.
They should be glad it's gonna be videogames and not some physical shit.
Eh. Better than Minecraft. My first console was an SNES and I had an N64 pretty early but I still enjoyed playing NES games (I got them as collections on newer systems like the Megaman Anniversary Collection). I probably wouldn't force them to play exclusively old games if I had a kid, but I'd definitely put a ton of old games on my kid's newer system via Virtual Console or something so they have the option.
Only thing I would do is give them a small list of popular games for each old system. If they don't like them, no big deal. [spoilers]Emulator only. Only I get to play the originals on the last CRT in existence cuz muh nostalgia.[/spoiler]
>letting your kid play a game rated M for Mature
I mean yeah I had Mortal Kombat growing up because my parents played it and thought it was cartoony enough to not be harmful, but you should judge what your kids are playing before you buy it for them, and CoD is both violent and shitty.
My dad wanted me to get into bird watching, if I have a son, I'm not for the fucking life of me force him into one of my hobbies.
I mean, videogames are obviously fun, but it'd be shit of me to try and make him to play games he has no interest in.
Haha, it's cute to think some younglings think NES games are a "torture".
Thanks for the laughs, lad.
Don't worry, I wouldn't let kids landing their greasy hands on my consoles, anyway.
Mario is no fun for kids. The arcade like reward system is outdated and not worth the trouble in today's world. It has no charme to it. It's not rewarding for kids of today's world. Let's not even talk about lost levels,the ultimate torture device. Mario 3 and Kirby would be okay I guess.
>I'm going to ignore your statement completely.
They're literally arcade games. Many popular mobile games are. And then there's the "fun" of microtransactions, but that's an entirely different can of worms.
well if you put Mario games on smartphones and tablets and make it touch enabled, I guess kids maybe would play them . but this will never happen which is the flaw in your logic. games like angry birds don't require much skill unlike Mario. I would not compare mobile games to classic arcade games. it may follow the same premise but the access of mobile gaming is much easier unlike relicts like nes. I would not compare them.
I still find it cute that you refer to old games as being "tortuous".
how old are you?
I'm not even angry at you or anything, it's just cute. Wonder what you'd think of old text-only games on PC from the early 80s.
you also forgot to finish typing Indiana.
Surprised you had the patience to play point and clicks though, although I guess LucasArts ones are more friendly. Ever played an old Sierra adventure game?
Huh? I never even mentioned Steam. I was just wondering what that young anon would think of a text-only game since he thinks NES games are "tortuous".
Of course I know text-only games are considered probably very unfriendly today.
Ok this is definitely bate but I'll bite.
I don't have kids of my own nor do I want them.
I do have a nephew who is 10 and looks up to me a lot, I never tried to force anything on him when it came to the games that I grew up with.
He took a interest in my collection of older games on his own, every time he would come over
he wanted to play Super Nintendo, Genesis or NES
we would stay up all night playing games like
Mortal Kombat II, Super Mario World, Super Mario Bros 3 and 2 as well as getting him into
his first time playing an RPG which was Secret of Mana, I always let him play the main character while I played as the Sprite.
He had a blast playing those games and by the time he was 9 we were playing CvS2, Samurai Shodown, Neo Geo Battle Colosseum the Street Fighter Alpha series MvC2 and KoF98.
He fell in love with fighting games after that and was a pretty fast learner at fighting games for his age.
We also played a lot of Resident Evil One and
Resident Evil 4
>I know not /vr/
For his birthday he wanted me to buy him
a Gameboy micro and some games which I did
he absolutely loves that thing and would bring it with him every where.
I think if kids like something enough they will get into it on their own I never tried to force anything on to him.
It was the same with music and anime or any form of entertainment for that matter and if he didn't like something he would tell me.
I'm just 18 but I was perfectly fine playing my older brother's super nintendo and game boy when I was a kid. I don't think it matters much as long as the games themselves are good. To me they didn't feel antiquated even after I eventually got a gamecube. Mario 3 is still my favorite.
theres some great games on the 64, however, its library was littered with shitty generic games. how many awful racing games did there really need to be on that system? i'm maybe 5 games away from calling my collection of 64 games "complete".
everyone is right about the rpg issue, why werent there any? *sigh* quest 64 doesn't count.
Congratulations, you completely misunderstood my statement. I don't give a fuck about trying to get kids to play Mario, they can do it of their own volition. Or not. Again, I don't give a fuck.
>Angry Birds doesn't require skill
Wow, the ignorance is palpable. Have you even played Angry Birds before, or are you just buttmad because it dethroned Mario as the de-facto video game mascot?
And finally, to cement that you really have no clue what you're talking about, you are conflating NES and arcade games, like they're the same thing [torture!!!1].
youput Mario games on smartphones... ...this will never happen which is the flaw in yourlogic"
Notice how I never mentioned porting Mario to mobile, and instead mentioned how most mobile games come with scoreboards, including the bragging rights that come with them, AKA arcade styled?
Like holy shit, you're so dense. Let me spell out my original point as clearly as possible since you obviously don't want to put in the effort of critical thinking.
Mario is perfectly fun for the kids. The only legitimate point as to why you personally think kids don't like older games is because "it's too hard uwu", which can be easily dismissed with "play more scrub". The "arcade like reward system" is something called level progression, and literally every single fucking game in the world has it (including mobile games, oh snap). Arcade styled gameplay (read: high scores) is fucking EVERYWHERE in mobile gaming, because it takes the least effort to program.
I'm actually curious, do you seriously want all of your games to be cold, calculated, dopamine delivery machines?
>Why weren't there any?
The first Angry Birds you bought through a single $10 purchase, was a legit skill game.
The sequels are freemium garbage that would greatly raise the difficulty if you play for too long without making micro transactions.
Okay, so which is it? Skill or no skill?
Or are we talking skill vs difficulty now? Because either way, I've asserted that mobile games are very arcade-oriented, and that they're still popular with the younger crowd. Difficulty is purely a matter of opinion (and ability, of course). The sequels were still hard, no?
Raising kids on retro is, in my humble opinion, actually beneficial. It teaches the player to enjoy the game for what it is, no flashy advertising or viral bandwagoning. There's a good article on this, actually:
The original Angry Birds is a great game. You made a single purchase and got the whole package.
The sequels are ridden by micro transactions. It's free to download, but after a few hours without making an in-app purchase the game will raising the weight and resistance in the pieces on the level. The later levels are almost impossible to beat. You start getting notifications to buy more powerful items in the in-game store and once you do the difficulty goes down to the original value for a couple hours again. Then it's greatly back up again and you start receiving notifications to buy stronger items, rinse and repeat.
If you start playing well by earning golden medals, the timer runs out faster. If you stay for too long without starting the game up, the difficulty gets lowered for a couple minutes and you get bonus coins and items, as motivation to get you hooked. It's very manipulative.
Now look at this: Physical DLC!
>Teleport figures INTO new app
Right, the touch interface for mobile games made casual games much less frustrating to play and allowed for what I believe to be a resurgence of new arcade-styled games (with a bunch of already-existing games on the market day one) and, of course, the scourge of microtransactions and the various terrors you can unleash upon your audience that comes with it.
So I suppose that ties into my "can of worms" comment earlier. Don't worry, I'm not defending that in the slightest.
That's interesting, perhaps Disney Infinite wasn't making them enough money?
tl:dr the arcade reward system is an outdated gaming model. no one cares about it anymore. if a modern game was like Mario 1 no one would play it, there is no reward. tbh isn't it sad that nes games have to be compared to trash games like angry birds? tragic.
> don't have your kids play old games because you're insecure about your own childhood the thread
Your kids are going to be brain dead losers if you want them to conform to society's rules. You'll have a kid that'll contribute to the cancer of society by creating music, film and games influenced by a declining generation of lazy untalented people who never think out side the box or push boundaries on normal conventions. Instead you'll raise a sheep high on anti depressants without any social skills because of social media. I'm glad my dad raised me on music that requires actual talent and I grew up in an age when games actually had gameplay
>implying this onion article (eww) is correct and a person will ONLY let their kid play retro
>implying my kid doesn't play sports, play modern games, and request I get out old stuff and a tube tv to play on pretty often
>implying it isn't fun as fuck
You don't get it do you? It's not about raising a child according to society's rules, its about raising the child letting it developing their own personality, Raising your kids on old games is just as bad as raising your child according to modern standards and not what it actually likes. Have fun giving your child antidepressants for destroying their dreams.
Troll detected. To answer your question though, I'm 18, and I've always preferred retro games. I have a hard time getting into newer stuff. Older games just seem to have more charm and I just enjoy them more. Nobody forced it down my throat, and I don't think anybody will find themselves an outcast by playing retro games, whether it's what they chose to play or what their parents have at home.
I don't care how "destructive" it is to their social lives.
I'm not going to let my kid grow up with out at least making them try to play DOOM, Myst, Half Life, Earthbound, and Super Mario Bros 3.
They don't have to like them, I just want them to get a taste of what those games are like. At least get to know them.
And I don't care if they like modern things either.
If they want to go ahead and play Five Nights at Freddy's 27: HD Remaster 7th Anniversary Edition, or whatever the fuck they'll have then, they sure as hell can.
Because last thing I want to be is the old man who stops them from enjoying what they want.
Disgusting. You are already a bad parent by feeding your child to video games, let alone retro games. If you gave them books I would respect you, but I guess that is way beyond the average 40 year old chidless in basement living with retro consoles /vr/ poster.
This is legitimately the worst bait I've seen in years
those things dont count anymore. you dont brag about that stuff. that is so 90s. nowadays you just enjoy the games and maybe share your enjoyment and talk about the experience with games.
those bragging things maybe come in acount with autistic fps and wow players and similiar. also with platinnum trophy colllectors,
I'm sorry, I didn't realise self-affirmation was passé.
>You don't brag about that stuff anymore, that would invalidate my argument! Man, I love moving goalposts!
Miiverse. Go fuck yourself.
>wanting to know if its a concentrated effort from one asshole is Lenin tier
if it is I would wonder why the mods haven't permabanned them yet for off topic spam
I don't even think it's little kids, its like theres a concentrated cabal of shitposters trying to destroy the board.
I maybe a thread about games that were released on SNES and Genesis and which version people preferred and the first post was:
>being a hipster faggot
>tfw I just played through some of my old faves on my N64 a few months ago and had a blast
>tfw a friend came over and we played co op Battletanx Global Assault because he remembered playing it as a kid
>tfw you're mad cause I think BK, BT, SM64, PD, DK64, etc etc etc are great games
My son and I just beat Yoshi's Island and he LOVED IT.
We're now playing through Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze and he LOVES it. Made a friend at school the other day over Nintendo games.
Eat shit OP.
Is this your first day or something? Of course I know it's not, you're around here all the time, but you really should understand how silly saying that around here is. You complain about this place so much, I honestly really wonder why you come here. You seem to want a more on-topic dedicated board with clear and regularly enforced rules. Of which there are multitudes all over the place.
But instead you come to 4chan, get pissed off, troll and rant about people destroying your beloved board and and muse why the people you don't like aren't permabanned. It's an awkward combination of funny and sad to see it over and over week after week.
What does that have to do with what he was saying?
Also NES has more than 10 truly good games. Off the top of my head,
Legend of Zelda,
Castlevania 1 and 3 (I love 2 but it's divisive)
Meg Man 1-6 are all solid
Ninja Gaiden 1 and 2
Dragon Warrior III
River City Ransom
I'm sure if I went looking there would be a bunch I forgot.
Star Fox 64
Goemon Mystical Ninja
Mario Tennis power tour
Goemon Grear Adventure
Oggre Battle 64
Diddy Kong Racing
Sin and Punishment
And I am not including the not-Nintendo ip Rare games. I think the best version of those games is probably the compilation recently released for Xbox One.
The n64 also has many 8/10 games, say, stuff like Star Wars racer, Rocket Robot on Wheels, Castlevania Legacy of Darkness, Space Station Sillicon Valley, which are worth playing if you like the genre, and good ports of Resident Evil 2 and Megaman Legens, Rayman 2 (much better than Playstation, not as good as Dreamcast)
I was consistently behind the times as a kid. Had a master system when the PSX came out, got a Saturn when it was in its stride. I had the option of an N64 or a PlayStation at one point and, like a stupid fucking kid, picked the N64.
That said, I did enjoy it, but mostly because it was an actual current-gen console. There were some great games though, I remember getting every cheat in Goldeneye and finding an exploit for infinite gold skulltalas in Ocarina of Time; I would just play some games over and over for weeks.
When I finally switched to Sony, I never really looked back. I was kind of surprised at the sheer variety of games.
>being out of touch with your generation is a bad thing
I can't name one rapper other than Eminem and Snoop Doggy Dogg but I can tell you what my Rolling Stones album is, my favorite Bob Dylan tune, and why M*A*S*H is the greatest show in TV history.
Holy fuck. What generation are you even from or trying to pretend to be from? I watched MASH. It was good but not "the greatest show in TV history". The asterisks and the whole "Snoop Doggy Dogg" thing lead me to believe you just googled "thing only a 50 year old virgin would say".
My little brother has a android tablet and a ps3 slim. He also has a psp. I bought him a game for the psp and ps3 but he is uninterested in the psp game , he only plays tablet and ps3. he even gifted me one of his psp games lmao.
I'm not going to let my child TOUCH a video game until they can read and write, at which point I will start them off with a Magnavox Odyssey and slowly work them through the entire library of video games in existence, or to speed things up the top 52 games of any given consoles, trying to keep up at a pace of 1 game a week, starting a new console every year. I'm not sure I'll be able to finish by the time they turn 18, but hopefully by that point they will not only have a job and live independent of me, but also still autistically go through the whole library in order, to make sure they have a full and well-rounded view of the gaming universe.
>in essence you have a very limited say in how to play a turn based RPG. It becomes very samey.
Is there any reason not to just cheat everytime you play an RPG and instakill all bosses while averting random encounters.
>Is the assumption here that just because /vr/ is dedicated to old games, it immediately assumes that no one here plays new games?
I think that's the assumption of faggot OP, here. The purists on this board can be somewhat annoying though. If you mention a retro-themed game that wasn't technically made in the 1980s your game was made a year out of range to technically qualify as retro at this particular point in time, then you WILL be relentlessly shitposted though. I will be genuinely surprised if I don't see the words "reddit" "newfag" "underaged" or "b8" in response to this post.
>Daily reminder that the word "mental illness" literally means non-conforming.
>Daily reminder that the DSM-5 is a fucking joke, and diagnosing a personality disorder just means counting if how many symptoms you think they have take up more than one hand.
>Daily reminder that the if you look at professional MIT videos on psychology they explain in the first two videos that neither age nor experience make a psychiatrist any better at their job. People just need someone to listen to them. Their credentials don't help at all.
>"Too bad son, you're going to get the high score on Super Mario World."
Stopped reading right there. High scores in non-arcade games don't fucking matter. Especially since you can grind the same few levels over and over until you max 999999990's.
If you said speedrun it or something, your post would be less cringey but still pretty dumb since that's not how most people who enjoy retro games tend to enjoy them their first go round.
I am getting the help I need, but I don't know for how long. My insurance company only covers 10 visits to a therapist per year. What am I supposed to get done with that? That's bullshit.
Are you kidding? Kids are nuts about old music and old video games. So much so that "I was born in the wrong generation" is a total joke.
Quit being wrong on the Internet please.
This isn't knocking what you're saying, but it makes me think. I'm pretty young by /vr/ standards, do you think kids wouldn't be so into older games if there wasn't a ton of jaded adults constantly spinning tales of how good video games were back in their day? Kinda like how a lot of the kiddies that only listen to classic rock were influenced by their dad or someone ranting about how all new music is shit?
At first I was in that attitude of, 'Back in the older days the game companies actually CARED about what they were making and old games are art and blah blah blah...'
Now I realize they're, well, games. Some are good, some are bad, and a ton are absolutely mediocre. I still like retro games because what I do agree with is that there was a bit of weirdness on older consoles and PC titles that we don't really get now, so it's interesting to visit that period and see what the fuck was going on.
So yeah, I got started because people told me retro games are the only way, and I found my own opinion and still play for different reasons other than the idea that 'old' correlates with 'good'.
I'm sure adults liking old games/music influences kids into liking old games/music. What I mock is the notion that doing so will make you a social outcast, because every kid is also liking old games/music, as well as other stuff.
And besides, it's not like showing kids older things is going to decrease their interest in newer things. Y'know, unless the dad beats her for daring to think about music or games beyond the year 2000.
>good ports of Resident Evil 2 and Megaman Legens, Rayman 2 (much better than Playstation, not as good as Dreamcast)
I agree with the majority of your post but Mega Man 64 is dogshit and widely agreed to be
Actually that's not the case, MM64 is a competent port that has some pros over the PS1 version like many corrected graphics/camera work (invisible walls, texture flickering, etc), it has worse draw distance but it was already bad on PS1, N64 is worse though. Voices are too compressed on MM64 and sound muffled, but the actual music and sound effects are about the same.
I think the port was not a good job, but mainly because it could have been much better (for example RE2), but it isn't dogshit either. Between Legends on PS1 and N64 I think I'd go for N64 just because I can avoid loading times. Muffled voices don't really bother me that much and the draw distance is barely noticeable only on open areas (most of the game take place in the underground caves and there's no fraw distance problem there), and again, PS1 also has draw distance problems anyway.
PC version is arguably the best one because of bigger resolution, but it has synch audio issues.
There's no perfect or definitive version of Legends.
I have yet to try the PSP version though.