Why is this fight such a piece of shit, defiling an otherwise nice game thus far?
And how the fuck do you even have a chance to beat it, when it just jumps around like a retard while doing un-counterable DOT and what feels like 10 second stuns?
Secret of Mana general?
>defiling an otherwise nice game thus far?
you ain't even got magic son, fb generation I swear
Once you have magic you have two choices:
>You use it to kill every further boss without fighting.
>You don't use magic and get killed by the unblockable magic of the bosses without being able to do something.
Then why do I keep hearing awesome things about this game? I had hoped it would be more like the Gameboy version (Mystic Quest) but from feedback here and this shitty tiger boss design, I cant say I get the hype I was reading. I mean, until now, it was pretty cool but this shitty roadstop makes me not want to play unless I can get some sort of realistic strategy
Wait what? It has unblockable and unblockable attacks which stunlock you so it can chain them together, it can hit you anywhere automatically regardless of how you move or how far away you are and while stunned, you cant heal or use herbs. How is that not completely retarded?
You have to use long distance weapons to hit it when it's on the ledge, i.e. the BOW, BOOMERANG, WHIP, or JAVELIN.
You may be swinging at the monster without seeing damage numbers popping out, or you may be getting hit and healed at the same time and will lag before damage rolls out, this is not you missing the enemy or failing to do damage, the game is stacking all the attacks and spells before rolling out the result, you can chain attacks to spells and vice versa, and if a monster hits you hard and you think you might die you can immediately have another party member stack a candy on them to prevent them from taking fatal damage.
You should also have healing items that can remove status effects at this point in the game.
>MFW I used to grind to level 35 before taking on that boss
I'm considering playing this game for the first time now. any important tips or advice I should know beforehand?
Neko is overpriced, avoid buying from him at all possible. Obviously sometimes you need a restock and he's the only reasonable option.
Magic is king. Weapons are shit. Don't even bother charging, just get to 100% or MAYBE Charge level 1.
It's a baffling mystery. I played the game when I was a kid and LOVED it. Good story, fun action, interesting weapon and magic systems, great music. Then I started playing it several months ago and found a shallow, poorly translated story, broken, glitchy battle mechanics, interesting but poorly designed weapon and magic systems, and great music.
As a kid I wouldn't have understood how anybody could fail to love the game. Today I can't understand how anybody could fail to see how busted it is.
Your strategy is to go back to the room where you can hit werewolves across a gap and just grind on them until you're strong enough to beat the tiger. After this the game does get better. If you finish it, finish it for the music. Otherwise don't bother. You haven't even begun to see some of its biggest flaws.
It is in fact completely retarded. Again, this game is broken. Its design is broken and its engine is broken. Somehow there is magic in it, but you probably aren't going to find a way to make the magic work for you.
the tiger is pretty difficult. but if you switch control of characters, you can attack/heal while one of your team is stunlocked. also, ranged weapons like the whip/bow/javelin are useful when he's on a platform.
I gotta say, I am a long-time fan of this game. I ground up all the orbs to get my weapons to level 9. I corrupted one of my saves with the "infinite sword orb" glitch, and then did it all over again. I love this game. Lots of good memories.
The absolute BEST part about this game is the multiplayer. If you don't got a buddy or two to play this with, it won't be as fun. But you get 3-player co-op going, and it's a blast.
This game is beautiful, and the music is arguably the best soundtrack on the SNES. Take a moment and listen to the soundtrack all the way through sometime, because it is glorious.
This game is absolutely flawed, though. The translation is pure shit, even by 90s squaresoft standards. Much of the dialogue makes absolutely no sense. Woolsey has stated that the translation was very rushed to get it out for the holiday season that year (to quote, "it nearly killed me"), and because of memory restrictions compounded with using a fixed-width font, much of the dialogue had to be stripped down to be very dumbed-down.
It's also in that period of time before the Mana series had distinguished itself apart from the rest of Square's IP. It was actually intended to be a mainline Final Fantasy game when it started... but then evolved into sort of it's own thing. As a result, the plot is pretty much nonsense and feels very slapped together. Lots of stuff just feels "thrown in" for whatever reason, and none of it feels cohesive.
These flaws exist with good reason (well, adequate reason). See, this game was originally developed for the SNES CD add-on, so a lot of the planned features had to be cut. If you look at the overworld map of the game, the player spends like a third of the game in about 10% of the overworld. That part of the overworld is incredibly detailed and fleshed out.. the rest of it is just tons of open space.
The developers originally intended for there to be lots more content, including multiple paths to play through the game. What else was scrapped can only be speculated, but there is a point in the game where you basically rush from temple to temple getting Mana seeds with very little game inbetween. I tend to think this is where a lot of the content got cut, as it feels like the "most" unfinished part of the game.
Anyway, it's a good game, but I can't help but wonder how much better it could've been.
This was the first Square game I played. I enjoyed it then because I didn't know any better. I tryed replaying it many years later, and I really wanted it to be good, but no, it's shit.
However, the soundtrack is awesome.