>>2773980 3DSs are a pain in the ass to set up for homebrew, and PSPs offer subpar SNES emulation at best. Not that normies would care, but still. I wouldn't mind having one of those portable SNESs with an Everdrive or something, provided the implementation was accurate enough. Also, why the fuck would anyone on a Mongolian basket weaving forum care about looking like a "normie"?
BTW, if I got a 3DS flashcart, would that allow me to run SNES emulators and other homebrew, or just pirated 3DS games?
>>2774032 >>2774059 I hear complaints about the quality of sound emulation with the PSP (something about being based on an old version of snes9x). I haven't actually compared it in depth to actual hardware or other emulator though.
>>2774086 I thought they were (somewhat imperfect) SoC replications?
>>2773885 >not hiding your power level outside >gym shorts anon, just
honestly though, why? is it that hard to just play an rpg on your phone or something. mobile emulation is pretty good at this point and you don't look like a huge tool playing on an overly large handheld with a cart sticking out of it too? if you want to play on real hardware get a damned gameboy pocket/color/advance >>2774083 HIYO! hoh hoh hoh
>>2773885 >lugging around big SNES cartridges for a portable Nigga just get a flashcart on a GBA or 3DS and emulate.
The Sega Nomad made sense for it's time because that shit couldn't be emulated on any kind of portable device, there's no reason for this thing to exist now when you can get a PSP or 3DS or whatever, I mean, are you gonna lug around a suitcase of fucking SNES cartridges for this thing?
>>2774227 Because to most people it looks like you're shilling a really pointless piece of hardware.
Everything about it is impractical as fuck, there's no point in this hunk shit if you want to play SNES on the go, when there's Androids, the 3DS, the PSP and more which you can emulate on.
It's even more hilarious with NES games because you need to screw on an adapter, and fucking hell are you really gonna carry around all this shit in public? My 3DS fits in my pocket and the carts/cards are tiny, the Supaboy is fat and snaggy as shit, it's like trying to carry a Blackhawk revolver in your pocket, you struggle to pull it out, it's incredibly conspicuous, and there's just so many better ways to give you what you want in a smaller and more efficient package.
>>2774335 He also thinks four words are ten words.
>>2774439 >meant to be a portable device for SNES games >SNES cartridges are big and clunky >literally makes more sense in every way to just emulate on a modern portable system instead, not needing to carry around big cartridges >pretty sure the makers are trying to shill it >it's not a great product
It's like the worlds biggest afterthought, it's like someone came up with the Sega Nomad decades after it made sense.
>>2774330 >are you gonna lug around a suitcase of fucking SNES cartridges Independent of the supaboy, on the topic of handhelds in general, I've always thought this "do you really want to carry around a bunch of cartridges" question to be kind of silly. It's not like you need to switch games every five minutes. Just take the one with you that you're in the middle of. If you're just about to finish it then maybe you need a second, but that'd be it.
>>2774483 There's a gigantic difference between this and regular handhelds.
>gameboy cartridges Small >gba cartridges Even smaller >DS cards EVEN tinier
With a DS or Gameboy, you can easily carry one or two extra games with you and it's nothing, with one of these or a Sega Nomad, the carts are fucking huge in comparison and carrying just one extra cart is logistically challenging.
Fuck, with a flashcart you can carry hundreds of games in one cartridge.
It is not a "handheld" but rather a portable/on the road console. The best part about it is that you can hook it up to a TV and connect 2 actual SNES controllers to it and play it as though it were a full sized SNES.
Also it works with the Everdrive, so most times you just need that cart.
It is really good for vacations and road trips. The type of trip where you will be traveling but also have a destination in mind where you will be for several days.
Went on a 12hr road trip w/ bros to visit another bro who was temporarily relocated for work (he was living out of a hotel suite for 8 mos before he moved back to our town).
During the 12 hr drive we forced our Zelda playing bro to playthru A Link to the Past with commentary and TRY to tell us why it was bad.
We then rummaged around the Everdrive for games we had never played before and had an afternoon long Looney Tunes B-ball tournament.
We then assigned one of our buddies to speed run a game of his choosing while the rest of us cooked dinner. We all did various dinner prep while watching, chatting and cheering on our friend run through Contra 3.
Now, I know you guys have a vendetta against clones, but I want to get one while this fucking retro bubble is still unpopped and rising. Is the SRT good? I heard it's the best hardware clone (unlike the Retron5 which is just an Android thing) and I don't mind if I lose out on one or two games. I just don't want to get a real NES/SNES/Genesis while the prices are fucked six ways from Sunday thanks to millenials
>>2774556 >millenials Please don't use that word, it makes me picture you as a 40 year old fat man with his ego invested in his childhood nostalgia, angry because young people have an interest in something he likes.
>>2774520 >This product actually is not terrible. AHHAHAHHHHAH, no. Just with a quick google I have people reporting that the latest and greatest revision still has major issues including: Massive overheating issues when attempting to play off the battery, so much so that it will enter a reset-loop after about 5-15 minutes of play. Undervoltage on games, so things like SA-1 games won't work properly. Speakers are of crappy quality, lots of noise and distortion. Poor build quality leading to 60-80% of units breaking within the first 2-3 months.
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>>2774556 >I just don't want to get a real NES/SNES/Genesis while the prices are fucked six ways from Sunday thanks to millenials >Genesis on ebay:$20 >NES on ebay:$50 >SNES on ebay:$50 >Retro Trio on amazon:$60 I'm confused anon. You have the money to spend on carts/Everdrive, but not another $60 to actually get the quality hardware? Hell, you would still be better off just buying one of the three and getting games/Everdrive for that, and saving up the SIXTY WHOLE DOLLARS to get the other two. At least then every game you buy for the consoles will actually be capable of working.
>>2774578 You are taking the word of Google/the internet where people almost ONLY go to complain, over someone who owns the console and has had a relatively decent experience with it for several years.
Where you've never used or owned one (I'm presuming).
"Massive overheating"...come on exaggerate much? I'll admit it can get pretty hot and uncomforable, but I've actually only experienced this when I play with it plugged into AC and am playing for extended play sessions (6hr+ of continuous playing plugged into the wall w/o break)
I've never experienced a reset loop, and as my story notes the extended play time during the road trip. No resets at all.
Special Chipped games usually have problems on clone systems. Also do you REALLY need 100% game compatibility? 95%+ compatibility is not too shabby.
Speakers are not great, but again...this is a portable clone system. You shouldnt expect a perfect experience but it is absolutely competent. It isnt any different than playing a game through cheap headphones.
You are going to try to claim that 3 out of 4 units break within the first 2-3 months? Cmon, dont make up bullshit claims. Being totally reasonable I wouldnt be terribly surprised if 15% of the units break in maybe the first 12-18 months.
Please stop trolling. I'm actually trying to give useful information.
If a real SNES is a 10/10, I'd put the Supaboy at maybe a 6.5/10 at the worst, 7/5/10 at best. It doesnt do RGB or Svideo, is a clone, speakers arent great, not 100% game compatibility.
>>2774598 >You are taking the word of Google/the internet where people almost ONLY go to complain, over someone who owns the console and has had a relatively decent experience with it for several years. Yes, I take the advice of hundreds of people over the anecdotal story from one guy. When hundreds of people are screaming SHARK!!! and one guy says "I don see nothin", who do you trust?
Given that it's more than the price of the real system that has perfect sound and 100% compatibility, yeah, the SupaBoy is a crappy system. If they charged less than a real SNES, there would be a point. As it is, it's overpriced and poorly made hardware. Sorry you paid money for that.
>>2774582 Ha, funny. The supaboy was fine and like I said it was a hotel suite. That would be the hotel's problem. Troll better please.
>>2774587 Genesis (with power adapter, av cables and one controller- the basic needs for a complete console) can NOT be purchased for $20. If you are lucky maybe you can get one for $25, and there is no guarantee it will work as it is certainly secondhand.
I'll even give you NES and SNES on ebay for $50, but even those prices are semi-generous and as stated before- no guarantee those will work as they are secondhand. Not to mention NES 72pin may need to be replaced.
So that is $125 for 3 consoles with 0 games.
A Retron 3/Retro Trio is $60 brand new with 0 games. You can go on Alibaba and get an SNES everdrive clone for $55, and pick up an SD card for a few bucks at your local store.
Gets you to the same exact place for half the price, and you dont have to worry about shitty ebay sellers, replacing a 72pin or iffy secondhand systems.
>>2774615 This chinese spammer is weird and creepy. First it was comments about his wife, now about his "bros". Expect him to mention an uncle soon. If he mentions children we should report him to the FBI.
>>2774618 >Gets you to the same exact place for half the price No, not really. I have a SNES, NES, and Genesis, you have a clone hardware system. You are paying money to emulate, and emulate poorly.
>iffy secondhand systems. Yeah, those NESs/SNESs/Genesis's just fall apart if they weren't sealed in Lucite. You're acting like it's impossible to figure out how to purchase a functional system on ebay without getting screwed, which is amazingly hard seeing as how ebay/paypal usually sides with the buyer. I get it, you paid money for this crap. You don't have to justify it. We all make bad choices. Look at that guy with the Retron5 who got married.
>>2774630 I actually have both a 2 sets of clone hardware system and original SNES, NES, and Genesis. Original hardware in the game room, clone hardware in my office.
Clone hardware is not emulation...its playing on lower quality hardware. Its the difference between playing a DVD in a Sony dvd player and playing the same DVD in a Sanyo or Insignia dvd player. You are playing the same game but just on cheaper products. They both get the job done...one just does one in a nicer way.
I did an SNES vs Super Retro Trio comparison- the differences are minimal. Unless you are crazy OCD you really wont care. Clone SNES has slightly duller colors, and the audio is not as rich. But other than that, it is totally passable.
An out of the box Retron 3 vs base level Genesis is actually a push if you are American. Genesis doesn't do S-video without a mod, Retron 3 does S-video Genesis (and ScartRGB is rarely available in the US, it is there if you want to use it but going down that route is $30+ extra cost). But the Retron3's audio is not as good as the Genesis Model 1. If you are a videophile- base Retron3 beats base Genesis. If you are an audiophile base Model 1 Genesis beats Retron3.
Base Retron3 Genny ties or beats base Model 2 or 3 Genesis hands down in all categories.
I'll admit that the "iffy secondhand systems" was just a filler arguement, but it is not totally invalid.
>>2773885 Agreed, I'm constantly hauling consoles over to play at my friends' houses and this thing is easy as fuck to transport and hook up to the TV since it only requires one cord to do so. I also play it in my room when I'm bored waiting for torrents to complete or something. I got mine for $50 and haven't even slightly regretted it. There's something special about playing Zombies Ate My Neighbors on my front porch during the fall season. All my friends think it's pretty awesome too. Only problem is battery life is inconsistent.
>>2774556 yeah I'm shilling hard but get a retro trio, I used it pretty frequently for bout a year now and play it with ever-drive carts CRT with S-Video and I've only had Echo Jr that I couldn't run on it oddly. it also looks like a toaster.
>>2774743 Granted the S-Video is pretty bad on the NES and you should definitely be using Composite. The genesis side isn't as bad, it's actually very similar to the bars seen in the original genesis. I'm not saying they're for everyone but i'm pretty content with the screen quality and colors being displayed.
>>2774769 >>2774784 >>2774786 >technically they are emulating It's just a terminology argument that's not saying anything actually useful. In the context of video games, the word "emulation" is used a shorthand for "software-based emulation," which is obviously a different thing from from cloned hardware. Some people apparently feel clever pointing out that the word emulation itself, as dfined in a dictionary instead of being used as an abbreviation for software emulation, has a broad meaning that can be used conceptually to describe clone systems. It then gets especially dumb if they proceed to declare that this word definition therefore means that software emulation and hardware clones are functionally identical and nobody should attempt to discuss the differences between them.
I realise that using the term "emulation" refers to using a software emulator, but I was never claiming that these COACs perform at the same level as constantly updated software emulators. In fact, the common opinion, as you yourself have voiced, is otherwise.
>>2774769 >I really don't get why clones get such a bad rap.
Because a lot of them aren't well made? I'm not opposed to the idea of a hardware clone if it's done alright, but some just aren't.
Look at the Retron 5, very poor compatibility (with both game cartridges and some accessories), recurrent firmware issues, etc.
If that thing actually worked well, and didn't have issues running such trivial titles such as Doom, and if they didn't literally shill the thing on here, I'd probably not shit so much on it, and I'd probably not be opposed to having one.
If the Supaboy was much better build quality, and if it actually recessed the cartridge entirely so you don't have that big thing sticking out, I'd not be as opposed to it.
>>2775361 You're telling me that its impossible to buy a busted console?
Ive bought used Nintendo system that wont output audio at all but video was fine. Seller said it was tested and technically when you hook it up you see a picture on the screen so it appears to work. Hardware CAN fail or be broken.
>>2775363 Typo as indicated by the second part of my statement and my other posts clearly that it is of lesser quality than original hardware.
It is clearly of lesser quality, but it gets the job done. A Mercedes and a Kia both are cars that use gas and can be driven from point A to point B. Mercedes are just more expensive and of way better quality. That doesn't mean Kias are not viable options. If you dont care for luxury and are OK with a few less bells and whistles- they'll get the job done. Same thing with Clones vs Original Hardware.
>>2775373 You can compare anything to anything. I am not saying that they are on an equal build quality level. Original hardware beats clones on sturdiness all day. Clones should be a legitimate option for people to consider. I think it is a mistake to immediately tell people "don't buy a clone, buy original systems", when in actuality a clone may serve their desires better. It depends on the circumstance. I think people who immediately dismiss clones are doing other readers a disservice by not offering realistic pros and cons.
Have you done the comparison by hand in person of a prominent clone vs original hardware? I have...and the difference is there but it is minimal. Original hardware for the most part is superior, however the gap between clones and original hardware is not as big as people on the internet make it seem to be.
I'm not shilling as I don't have a clear cut bias towards clones or original hardware. I am trying to give as objective an opinion as possible based on the circumstances of the buyer.
If someone wanted to use a system for RGB out or was trying to get the most original feel Id never recommend a clone
this dude is on the clock and it shows. a regular person would have either given up or just told us to go fuck ourselves by now. this man here clearly has an agenda to constantly fill each and every post of his with information regarding the product he is pushing. ban this fool.
>>2775595 Clearly am not on the clock as a professional shill. Why would I shit on the Retron 5, and push cheaper Retron 3? Also if I were Hyperkin, why would I say anything good about the Super Retro Trio when it is direct competition to the Retron 3.
I am just a bored lawyer who needs comes to /vr/ when I need to take a break from my legal writing.
Just trying to help some noobs out with legit knowledge instead of the biased bullshit many people spout.
I love clones, but I have a rule to never spend more than $10 on one. I have the other one of these handheld super famiclones, the Retrobit one. I paid $30 for it complete boxed and every time I look at it I think I should sell it.
That type of shit will be the first thing to show signs of fad bubble burst.
>>2777246 Im personally not a fan of emulation (ie.- playing console games on a computer). Something just doesnt feel right for me. I understand the advantages, playing console games on a computer screen just doesnt click right in my head.
If you have original hardware and clones, original hardware is usually better. But if you dont have the systems already (and you are not OCD about the minimal set backs of slightly lower audio quality and limited game incompatibility), or if you need a second set of systems for a second setup, I think a clone are a better way to go...depending on the clone you get and what you primarily want to use the clone for.
>>2774249 > is this some sort of meme Yes. One guy was shilling the Retron 5 and he said his wife loves it because they no longer have a bunch of old game consoles in their living room. The phrase "my wife loves it" is used to make fun of people who praise shitty emulation machines which fail at being a good alternative for real video game consoles and are generally much more expensive than a device any sane person would use for emulation.
>>2777490 It was actually one of the Retron satire threads from the peak of the shilling 'round Christmas - the ones with the pics of the multi-slot toasters.
When I look back to before that, I realize that more than half of the references to "my wife" on /vr/ were made by me. I'd gotten married in 2012 and we had our son right at the beginning of /vr/ so they're the same age so I was kind of stoked about my new family and I guess that sort of rubbed the memester the wrong way since it's come to be a facetious way of saying "this is something normals do don't you want to be normal?" especially for shit-tier video game hardware. That's now the only way I use it.
>>2777317 Emulation doesn't feel right to you because you're doing it wrong.
Are clones really that much cheaper on eBay than original consoles? I never cared to check. Again. You're doing it wrong. I have three setups with all original consoles and wouldn't dream of using clones instead. I keep my collection of clones in a cabinet I like to call The Vault of Fail.
Someone being technically impaired eBaby isn't a valid reason that clones are better.
>>2777724 Wow, what a horrible post. Such great analysis in "you're doing it wrong".
Emulation doesn't feel right to me because there is no satisfying event involved. Also I work all day in front of a computer and I just don't want to be in front of one for games too. There is something satisfying about getting that click when you start your console, grabbing the wired controller and plopping in your chair or couch.
Could you explain the whole "technically impaired" argument?
The price argument is valid as a Retron3/Retro Trio is $50-60 which is about how much you'll spend on an SNES these days.
Care to talk about why clones are "doing it wrong" or why you prefer original hardware? In my experience the Retron3 (and to a lesser extent Retro Trio) do a pretty decent job. The play experience on these clones are by no means offensive.
>>2777829 I wasn't getting defensive about it. I was asking if he could explain it. I wasn't sure if he meant what you said or if he meant that people who Can't tell the audio visual difference between a clone vs orig hardware.
The post wasn't horrible for its content. I can always agree to disagree. The post was bad because it gave poorly framed conclusions with no explanation or reasons behind them
>>2777776 >buttmad technically impaired rant You don't have to sit in front of a computer to emulate. Plug your computer into a TV, preferably a CRT but if anything more than an HDMI cable is beyond your abilities then just use your LCD. It's just as easy to do your plopping. Keep an empty soda can near by to make a click sound if it's so important to you.
>you'll spend Not a chance eBaby. I didn't even pay half that for a CIB SNES. I play on SFCs because they cost me fuck all and don't use a retarded power supply. Laughing my ass off that you pay 10x as much for a clone. If you think the experience on a clone is fine then you probably never played on original hardware.
If you need any more details on how you're doing it colossally wrong let let me know.
>>2777865 I know you can hook PC to a CRT but using a mouse to navigate and all that nonsense just takes me out of the event that is playing the games. Again it just doesn't feel anywhere near the real thing. With a clone you are still putting in a cart, clicking it on, seeing that led turn on, and using OEM controllers. We are just going to agree to disagree on this. That's just my personal feeling but that said I understand the appeal of emulators and don't discount them. It's likely the quickest, easiest and cheapest way into retro games.
Maybe YOU won't spend $50-60 for an SNES but that is the going rate. I'm not spending any money on an SNES because I'm still playing mine from 1995. But your everyday joe looking to buy an snes would absolutely pay 40+ for an snes (average price being 50-60 both on ebay and craigslist...check em)
I only got into clones for 2nd & 3rd setups before realizing they are not as bad as people say. I chose clones because I've got my entire childhood cart collection at my childhood home with no systems to play them on when I'm visiting my parents for holiday (got a retron3 to keep there). I've got my original systems with ever drives in my game room at my personal home, but recently wanted a small setup for my office (bought a RetroTrio for my office, found a second retron 3 for a few bucks at a flea market he next day and have been testing the two ever since out of curiosity)
I already have the ever drives so the clones were quick and easy set up. Again, it depends on the circumstances and I'm not saying clones are always better than OG consoles or emulation. But depending on what a person likes, wants, and already has, a clone could be the best and cheapest option.
>>2777865 >>2777865 Oh as for the "clone experience" being worse I've been testing between OEM SNES, Model 1 Genesis OEM, a retron 3, and super retro trio trying to run them as equal as possible. The differences are NOT that big and in the case of genesis video it Retron3 beats OEM because OEM doesn't do Svideo while Retron3's genny works well. Feel free to argue RGB Scart but it's not widely available in the US and is difficult for the average joe to get into
>>2777775 >actually high end NES clones that go for much more than real NESs they're time period hardware clones, and therefore are more or less the same system as a famicom, sometimes with extra features. The reason they're going for more is because there's collectors who love bootleg systems from the day.
>>2777928 >using a mouse Jesus christ. You're going from doing it wrong to doing it wronger.
I'm not an eBaby and don't care what they pay.
Your only argument is that a clone is better if the person buying it is retarded. It's like in an argument over whether the beer tastes great or is less filling and you show up and say a juice box is better because you can drink through a straw and won't spill it on your lap.
>>2777946 I'm totally going to trust the opinion of someone who didn't know you could connect a PC to a TV until a liitle over an hour ago.
>>2778010 Of course I knew you can connect a PC to a computer. I have a Mame set up that I switched from PC to soft modded xbox because I hate having to navigate crap through windows. Unless you are talking rasPi or an ouya if you are emulating from a computer dollars to donuts you will have to use a keyboard and/or mouse/trackpad to open an emulator.
Again...you are not providing any any context about how there are not situations where a clone is better. I just walked you through my own: already had everdrives, already had controllers, already had a tv, I bought a clone trio system for ~50 and now when I want to play I my office on my ever drives is just take my cart and controller and plug them into the clone. I get to contine my save on the everdrive and don't have to buy an av converters or adapters to get a computer rigged up to a PVM.
To put it MOST simply: a clone MAY BE better if you already have carts. A clone may be better if you've already have OEM controllers. A clone may be better if you are looking to play on a CRT. A clone may be better if you are trying to save money but are interested in all 3 systems. A clone may be better if you don't want to get into RGB but want high quality video in a simple way.
Your beer analogy makes no sense...feel free to try to explain it. But as it stands your beer analogy reads: 2 people arguing about what the best quality of the same product is. Then a 3rd party arguing that a totally different product is better for a totally different quality that is not being discussed.
1st: Clones, OEM, and Emulation are talking about the same product- playing retro games. 2nd: weve been discussing far more variables than taste vs filling (price, build quality, output quality, nostalgia feel, general convenience)...all of which are applicable to all 3 options.
If you dont care what people pay then stop being elitist. I do. Im trying to make sure people spend money on what could will make them happiest by exploring all options
>>2778039 Might be offtopic, but I'm currently thinking of a way to make a MAMEbox for my CRT setup. I was thinking of setting everything up on a cheap netbook I have unused (but I haven't found the right VGA to RGB adapter for it). I tried MAME on Wii but it works like crap, can't even play Turtles In Time. How good is the original Xbox for this? Can I play CPS2 games with 100% speed and no hassle?
>>2778045 It's easy enough, there's entire wikis to Wii modding so just google it. It's worth it. I got an older Wii (Gamecube ports) on my CRT setup, with the Mayflash adapter to use my SNES controller on everything, and it works really good. And Virtual Console covers most of the games you'll miss from N64 too. I'd say it's the best and cheapest retro-setup-solution on CRT you can get IF you don't care about actual hardware. I still use my consoles with my collections and flashcarts for whatever I don't own, but if you're starting from zero, and want everything looking great on a CRT, Wii emulation is a great option. (If you don't care about TV display, just emulate on your PC)
>>2778059 >>2778039 I've got a ps4 controller and the touchpad works as a mouse. Launches steam big picture, steam has shortcuts to retroarch in my library, and if I'm really working on a game I make a shortcut to retroarch with that specific rom.
getting to launching is kind of meh still. The ps4 controller doesn't seem to work out of a cold boot for some reason, and the ps4 keyboard is okay, but lacks windows and meta buttons so it's hard to control shit. I have meta buttons bound to ps4 buttons but I still don't have windows on it, then I can't get it to switch for when I get into steam. Ffffff
windows 7/8 has really fantastic voice recognition that no one ever mentions ( if you have a perfect mic) If the mic is working I can be all 'start youtube, watch Clickspring' and it works perfect. I've had a hard time getting a good mic though, and haven't tried it again since windwos 10 came out. I'm very concerned Cortana might have killed that branch of windows speech recognition and she doesn't have the same features yet. On the other hand, Kinect One is going to be compatible with windows 10 soon, and that has a much better mic, so I'm banking on that... Or just finding my mic from before I moved wiould be nice.
>>2778039 >If you dont care what people pay then stop being elitist. I do. Im trying to make sure people spend money on what could will make them happiest by exploring all options Trying to avoid meta-talk mostly but I agree with this. There's so many options for playing thousands of great games now that just because someone may not have the stereotypical have-it-all retro-basement 30 years in the making shouldn't disqualify them from the conversation. It's all about appreciating games. While I still play on the consoles I and my brothers have since we were kids, I still think the more open everyone is to talk about third party consoles, repros, hacks, emulation, whatever-you-can-imagine-adapters, etc., the more interesting and rich everything gets. Just to share an experience: I got a RetroDuo just out of curiosity, and because my NES was dying (fixed it later) and I hated that cheap piece of plastic, but now it's on my parents house and I can play with my brothers on christmas when we reunite there sitting in front of the old TV with cord controllers like 20 years ago. That's a good thing having a cheap plastic emulation-box option has made easily possible, because I wouldnt have gotten a second NES and SNES fullprice otherwise.
>>2778058 Well that's just what I expect from this board, and as soon as I see some meme loving angry anon namecalling someone I scroll to the next post. It's not worth it.
>>2778059 You can always setup a frontend like Kodi or even Steam running as soon as Windows launches. That's what I have for my gaming PC on my HD TV setup. A mix of PC games and things that work better emulated.
>>2778073 Yes because I'm shilling for both Hyperkin and Retrobit (market competitors) at the same time...at 2am Eastern USA time.
Get real son. I'm just hoping that some people stop lambasting clones when they have no legit experience with them. Again clones are NOT perfect.
My Super Retro Trio has horrendous jail bars on the Genesis side's Svideo and the NES Svideo is even worse.
My Retron 3 doesnt output Svideo NES at all, and it is EXTREMELY finicky with power supplies. Unless you use the exact proper adapter certain systems will not power on, or may power on with interference on the screen.
>>2778117 I'm name dropping products because im conveying personal experience rather than being vague and someone buying product Y because it falls into the general category of "famiclone" and expecting a certain type of experience.
There are so many on the market with varying characteristics that you cant be vague about it.
You cant just be ambiguous and say "Clones work with Castlevania 3", because thats not true...not all clones work with CV3. If you are specific people wont get confused and buy something they dont want because it has the wrong functionality.
>>2778176 Suspect for what...working for a two different party game company while posting on here at 4am?
I'm just someone who has experience with most of what is out there (I admit that I haven't used console emulators for ~5ish years) trying to put information out there, because few people have actually had the same hands on.
It isn't the same but would you get college advice to someone who visited 1 college and went to that same college and says all the other colleges suck come to where I am at. Or Visited 5 different campuses, and is willing to tell you the pros and cons of each and leaving the decision up to you?
>>2778039 Funny. I though you said you didn't emulate because you didn't want to sit in front of your computer to play. Now a few posts later your a MAME wizard. Incredible! As in lacks any credibility. My beer analogy is spot on champ. You're the dingus saying that clones are great for a reason no one but you cares about. Namely being too retarded to find a reasonably priced console or emulate. You're trying to justify the fact that you can only afford nigger tier clones because you only buy from ebay resellers. That's all your trying to do.
>>2778207 I didnt say I was a Mame wizard. I said I have a Mame set up. I currently have a softmodded xbox in an arcade cabinet with a 40in 4:3 pioneer plasma monitor. I boot up my xbox, and everything runs through the arcade sticks and buttons.
I also ALREADY OWN all of the original hardware.
I dissected your beer analogy, but you are free to be more specific to clear it up but you have refused to do so.
PLEASE inform me where you can buy an NES, SNES and S-video modded Genesis for ~$60 total on a consistent and regular basis. I don't need to buy anything, I've got more than enough.
>>2778213 Experience is absolutely because its knowledge that one person has that another person may not.
I am not recommending clones over actual hardware in all situation just in a few limited situations.
Any experience is knowledge, even a bad one, so long as it is true and relays useful information.
>>2777952 Nah I mean shit like this. The Famicom is unique in there being clones like this though, both being incredibly popular and not having native RGB on original hardware
>>2778039 >Clones may be better if you're ignorant and/or lazy See how much easier that was to type? In the time it took you to type yours, you could have learned how to softmod a Wii or configure a frontend for Windows.
>>2778045 It's very easy. I did it about a year ago. All you need is an SD card and a little bit of patience. I followed this guide: https://gbatemp.net/threads/how-to-softmod-a-wii-and-play-backup-wii-gamecube-and-wiiware-games.360687/ It's probably not the newest or best guide out there but it worked for me.
>>2778381 I've already have a set up that I'm more than happy with so I have wasted no time on my end.
Although rude and ignorant in its self your "ignorant and/or lazy" argument is actually semi legit reasoning. Kudos and some respect. However what you deem as lazy is actually just practical, but again every one has an opinion and an asshole.
However ill counter by saying that windows front end and wii soft mod still does nothing for people who want to use their old carts and controllers for nostalgia (which is a main reason myself and others have wanted to use clones).
It could be feasible for computers/windows users but then it would be a matter of price. The windows user would need 2 USB-nes/snes/gen controller adapters which alone is $30-40, and the only USB cartridge reader I am aware of only reads Genesis and Snes (though it does have controller inputs built in) however it costs $75+
A a new $50-60 clone that's all in one beats it on price. Soft modded wiis don't let you use original carts plus you also still need controller adapters for them. Additionally your save data isn't transferable from your softmod/emulation set up to your original hardware setup. On the clone it is as simple as pulling the cart from the clone and putting it in the original hardware.
And your are welcome to argue otherwise but part of my reasons for a clone is as a 2nd/3rd setup. It would make sense that you'd want to bring your copy of A Link to the Past with you from the cart but play on a different set up if you were going on holiday/vacation. Heck, this brings us full circle because you could use your cart/save on your SupaBoy, play it while you were traveling to your location, then play it on the TV via the SupaBoy once you've reached your location.
I'm happy to continue debating you, but the thread is about how not all retro clones are not as bad as they are made out to be. If you don't like it- leave the thread
>>2778657 I'm not even the /op/ in this thread. But op started it saying that his SupaBoy is great. Which means he appreciates his /vr/ clone...the origins of the thread.
There have already been several other posters in this thread who have mentioned owning clones.
I've helped other posters in other /vr/ threads about their clones.
If "nobody else wants them" how come there is at least one brand new clone console coming onto the market every single year. Clone are so much that the Retron5 & "my wife" is the only meme that /vr/ has.
Don't have an online store, I'm not a re-seller, I'm a lawyer.
Thanks for coming into this thread and complaining in an obnoxious manner about the topic just because you don't agree. Love your maturity.
see there you go again. another pointless post where you name-drop a bunch of products while pretending to be a lawyer. no one is buying your charade nor your products. you talk about maturity while trying to pull one over on us like were little kids at your candy store. choke on dicks for real.
>>2778238 Given the number of times you've changed your story any claim you have anything isn't credible. The only thing I'm confident you have is a shitron 3 which you are desperately trying to justify owning with your tardlogic. I've explained the beer analogy. You just don't understand because you're the tard with the juice box.
So my friend is saying that if I wanted to get a clone system that I should just emulate instead. Would you agree? Because I can only see that argument working against literal emulation machines like the Retron5 and whatnot. I do agree that one should aim for the real deal, but with how bad the market for retro consoles are nowadays, I can't see it being easy to go full genuine without breaking the bank a bit. Me personally, I'd be more than happy to indulge in the original consoles once the trend dies down, but for now, a clone could service me considering how compatibility issues are seriously starting to go down (see the SRT, where only a handful of games from each console don't work for various reasons)
>>2781643 I never feel a solid motivation to play games fully over emulation unless it's Wii because emulation is actually better all around for that console I feel that playing it on a console with the cartridge, controller, and TV is perfect, and that even a clone system can reproduce this pretty damn well if the cards are played correctly. Like, if you have the option to use original controllers and carts in a pretty faithful sense, I see no issue with it. Some clones out there are almost 1:1 with any game that it can actually run, as there's usually no difference (unless it uses cheap-o parts like, say, the AtGames Genesis).
>>2781649 I don't own clone consoles so I can't suggest anything in particular , but from what you say I think the next thing to consider would be whether or not having a real console really even matters to you. You wouldn't want to buy a clone and not be happy with it, resulting in you turning around later and buying the real thing when you would've just been happier having the waited until you could afford/find a real one for a good price in the first place. Yeah, I know this is just basic general advice, but I think you really should evaluate if simply playing the games accurately from carts is your goal or if you actually desire the added authenticity of using a real console.
>>2773913 There is a time to use it actually. It makes sense to say it when you know someone has heard you state your opinion on something before, but at a time where you were lying (say to not hurt a 3rd party's feelings). Later when you want to clarify your actual opinion to that person you say, "Hey, to be honest, I actually didn't like that cake either. I just didn't want to hurt Samantha's feelings."
It has meaning, and isn't empty; it's just that people use it too often to try and seem like they are laying something on you all the time. If there's no reason for you to have not been honest prior, there's no reason to say it. People over use it.
I own hundreds of SNES games simply since I've had an SNES for over 20 years. Emulation wasn't possible when I was a kid, so I would buy games, either new, or secondhand, or used Blockbuster copies. I emulate when I need to, but I think its fun to own copies of the game. It's good knowing I have thousands of dollars (and rising) on my shelf that I can part with should I ever need to. The Supa Boy is useful since my SNES broke, and I just plug it into the TV. I don't understand the need for this autistic back and forth.
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