Bought this but can't get a display on my HDTV's, it gives me a "signal out of reach" message but it does work on my monitors. Is there anyway to get VGA to work on my HDTV's?
Forgot to mention that it's the VGA cable for the Dreamcast, also this is what my monitor shows:
No it's not, Idiot. See that fucking VGA plug?
Anyway, OP if your HDTV doesn't have a VGA input there's a high chance it won't like VGA style 16:9 resolutions. I have an old touchscreen monitor from a POS that I intended to mount by the couch and use as a remote control/secondary display for my MCPC but it and my HDTV do not share any resolutions. None.
>No it's not, Idiot. See that fucking VGA plug?
Listen kid. Go take your angst back to /v/.
It's composite with a DSub 15 connector.
The dreamcast needs its VGA box. It doesn't just output 31khz. It does 15khz without it.
It probably is having trouble with the 720x480 signal, as it's probably expecting 640x480 through the VGA port (which shouldn't matter, but TVs are designed to be stupid to avoid support calls and returns).
The stupid thing is that the TV, 99% guaranteed, supports 720x480p over component since that's a very common DVD player resolution. The DC would work if you stuck a simple (but typically expensive) transcoder between the VGA cable and a component input on that Sony.
the dreamcast dos not need a vga box to output vga; it needs a resistor to enable vga signal output. in recent years chinks have finally started selling a cheap vga cable for dreamcast and that's one of them.
ok, you're a fucking twat. please kill yourself.
around 90% of dreamcast title support vga and several others have iso patches to enable it too.
$15 vs $60-100, right. besides which, most vga boxes are generic pieces of shit, that stop working anyway.
>...vga; it needs a resistor to enable vga signal output
>VGA boxes are no less reliable than anything else, there's nothing complicated about them. I'd rather have one than a cable for the output switching ability personally.
That's like saying you'd prefer two toasters, one for each side of the bread. Why not combine them into one functional unit?
If you've tried it on all your TV and it doesn't work then your TV's don't support it. Dig an older one out of a dumpster. You might have better luck.
Confirmed. The one at his moms house does.
Oh God. Not going to even comment on all the kidsplaining you followed up with. Just going to savor this particular instance of ignorance and stupidity.
What does the switch do?
>VGA boxes are no less reliable than anything else
Incorrect. There are more parts to fail, thus they have a higher failure point. And it is well known, that most aftermarket vga boxes do in fact 'go bad'. It's a pretty common issue.
>Why not combine them into one functional unit?
I think you misunderstood the post you're replying to.
The switch part of a VGA box allows you to use either VGA or regular AV jacks (S-video/composite) without disconnecting anything from your Dreamcast.
Apparently DC outputs 720x480 instead of 640x480 for some reason. On a CRT monitor it shouldn't matter too much since you can just adjust the geometry manually but it could conceivably cause problems on TVs.
Nonsense but ok bro. I don't know why anyone other than someone selling those VGA cables would want to scare people away from full-featured VGA boxes but whatever.
At what point is that readout showing 640x480 or 720x480? The boot screen or in-game? Different sources have the DC outputting either one, but nobody specifies when they're seeing it. I'm wondering if it switches between the two.
My DC and VGA boxes have been packed up for a few weeks or I'd check myself to help out.
Yeah, as an offhand name for a specific resolution, VGA refers to 640x480, but it's also a generic term for RGB as used on computers.
Something as simple as a cable wouldn't be able to force weird resolution detection. It's either the DC is sending something weird, or the TVs don't recognize it for whatever reason, or both. A TV with VGA input that can't do 640x480p60 seems really odd, so if the DC is sending 720x480 then at least that might explain what's going on. The fact that the OP's monitors work ok but the TVs aren't, and that the detected resolution before was 720x480, seems to make sense. Now that the monitors are showing 640x480 and the TVs still don't work, that is weird.
Not a VGA to component cable, but if you use a VGA to component transcoder box that it would work. One of those $100 ones that doesn't do anything to the picture other than switch from RGB to YPbPr (no image resizing, no moving the picture around, no filters, no remote control, etc). And the quality would be perfect with no lag as if there were no box in there at all.
This is one example of a good one:
That's what I personally did to get my Dreamcast doing 480p on an HDTV in the past. For some reason the image was shifted to one side by about an inch, but I was able to adjust it on my TV.
Anyway, before you do all that, are you sure the VGA inputs on your TVs work? Can you plug a PC into them and try different resolutions to test them? You could even try both 640x480 and 720x480 from a PC to confirm whether that's actually the problem.
You'll find plenty for less than half that.
They can also be made with less than $5 in parts by anyone with the most basic of electronics skills. Plans are also available at the above link.
Those plans prove how simple they are to make, but only 3-4 companies have ever made good ones.
Good job making yours for $5, well done. I might be arrogant too if I'd done that. Maybe a little less.
If I was looking at paying $100 for a transcoder and found out I could make one for 5 bucks if I knew how to solder I might be buttmad to.
I don't know how many companies make good ones I'm not about to buy something that's going to cost me more to ship than make myself. I do know that if you use parts that can't handle the bandwidth it won't work well. Given that the parts cost cents and the cheapest of these things I've seen was around $15 I don't see why you'd skimp. But I guess some people would get a cheaper battery for their moms pacemaker if they could save a buck so yeah, I'm sure there's stuff out there that's shit.
>and the cheapest of these things I've seen was around $15
That's not any model using the straightforward transcoder plan we're talking about. That's a monoprice/radio shack/hong kong thingamalol.
If you buy one and you're happy with it, I guess that's all that matters so good luck.
>Nonsense but ok bro.
You're aware there exists trash like taiwanese capacitors and lead free solder in this world, right? a number of third party vga boxes do in fact go bad and unless you've got an official vga box, you may as well buy a chink cable.
>>You're aware there exists trash like taiwanese capacitors and lead free solder in this world, right?
>Where is the evidence that this is a real, prevalent problem on VGA boxes moreso than anything else?
Do your own research, faggot.
>>Japanese NTSC uses 720x480.
>Do you just make shit up to argue about it online or what?
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=search&cats=0_0&filter=0&term=720x480Oh look at that, aren't you stupid. 720x480 is in fact a commonly used resolution, in Japan.
>There be trolls ITT, kek.
>weebfag DVD rips
It's already been noted that it's a common DVD resolution. Non-Japanese anamorphic DVDs are commonly found using this resolution as well. "Japanese NTSC" has nothing to do with this.
"Best guess know-it-alls" are the worst kind. Authoritative and clueless at the same time.
I thought the troll raid was over.
Thanks for clearing that up. For a moment I was afraid you might have a clue what you're talking about.
Component is just RGB with the color and sync signals encoded onto 3 wires. Even accounting for the variants of sync and image adjustment a circuit that can transcode any retro console form of RGB/VGA is easy and cheap to make.
If you have the skills to do this, and it doesn't take much, you can easily find plans and build one.
>RGB scales way over that too. Ever heard about PC CRT monitors?
I was thinking about 240p, my mistake.
>Besides 480i != 640x480
I didn't imply 480i that's why I just posted the resolution.
RGB is just a way of putting colors on different wires. It's not limited to 640 x 480. Component is exactly just RGB with H/V sync all encoded on 3 wires. Look it up if you don't believe me.
>Component is exactly just RGB with H/V sync all encoded on 3 wires.
Not exactly. It's a common misconception since the cables are color-coded red green and blue, but the signal put thru them is considerably different. One cable for brightness and sync, and color data split across the other 2.
This kind anon in one of the CRT threads explained it at length:
>Component is just RGB with the color and sync signals encoded onto 3 wires.
Fuck, I've read enough stupidity on this board for today. I'm out. Also, it shows you're eating shit for breakfast, you're regurgitating it all over the place.