It is really hard. I did two undergraduate degrees before starting my grad work and I was working 40/50 the whole time. I don't have good advice for you other than to keep your head down, try not to let it overwhelm you, and keep it up. It is really worth it in the end. You might think it's not, but if you can handle 4 years of misery, you have a lifetime of benefits for it.
Also, apply for internships ASAP. CS ones tend to pay good. I don't know anyone who's internship was paying less than 15 bucks an hour over the summer. Also,. you can start checking out these things called co-ops, which are like internships but tend to last about 9 months at a time, with the expectation that you will be doing school as well during much of it. Good pay for a job to work through school.
>>2786940 Yeah but school made me hate doing programming for other people.
Group projects made me want to kill myself because its so much harder to coordinate with people then to just do it on your own. Plus, I really don't like doing other peoples stuff, and I like my own thing.
Might just move back to my small home town and work at the local grocery store in Meat again honestly. Then do dev in my spare time.
There are many different ways, one thing you might do is try to find freelance work. For instance, website or network design for small companies. You will have clients, but you won't have any other people to work alongside in particular. I knew I guy who did web design like that. He traveled around the world frequently, and worked from wherever he happened to be. All freelance. An enviable life.
Just keep it up. The important thing is to keep working, even if you're miserable at any given moment, use that as experience to move you towards what you want to do.
I am the one-man IT department at my company, started just 8 weeks ago but I love it. I get paid to work on broken machines, dig through piles of crap at our old storage lockers, and teach myself about running a windows-based network infrastructure. I've learned plenty so far and I'm gonna learn way more soon, and I expect to be getting a raise in 4 months or so, plus potential for more along the way. Also it's barely 2 miles away from home so I'm working toward biking to work too, which is a long-time fantasy.
Basically I'm getting paid to do what I do in my free time, so I can't say I'm displeased in the least.
>>2786961 Yeah I'm probably going to make my own website as like a potential draft of what I can do and shit. Then I'll probably make an indie game and see what happens from there, I got enough money banked up from working and some inheritance from relatives that I can live for like 3 or 4 years without a job.
>>2786930 Same. Electrical and Computer Engineering.
>>2786920 I like to hack on my SNES every once and a while. I had a thread documenting a game I was writing a few months back, but school happened.
I've been thinking about developing some apps for Android. How is it? Is the graphics interface anything like OpenGL?
>>2786957 It's tough to find programming work that's actually interesting. Most stuff is very much cookie-cutter. That's why I've stayed in physical science and engineering research, where asking and solving interesting and difficult problems is the norm.
Personal dev stuff is great as long as you have an audience. Small time gigs like web-site design is always in demand and will make you a living, but will likely be soulless if graphics design isn't your bag. Making money off of things like Android apps is very hit or miss, and the market being completely saturated doesn't make it any easier to launch a successful app even if it's good.
>>2786951 Fuck a big company bro. You will be a cog in a machine at a company that is worked until it is ground down, and then replaced. If you really like game development, go indie. You'll retain creative control and will have a better chance of continuing to enjoy video games. Plenty of publishing platforms and funding strategies exist now if you have a good idea. We need more great games like FTL.
>>2787040 you have the power within you, just go for it
I work at a medical firm for the record, not sure if they're all this way but might be good to look. Also worth it to see if you or anyone you know has friends who are doctors, that helped me a lot in getting considered for the position
Eh, ashamed NEET due to some medical/neurological/psychological conditions.Old games, comic books and the like have me wanting to create, but instead I sit around wishing I knew what to play. It's a sad life, mostly because I know my family is most likely ashamed of me, as are my friends.
>>2786957 You sound like me right now, except I'm still in my undergrad. I'm pretty decent at programming and I'm all but finished with my other bachelors in Math, but the more I hear about the wageslave workforce the less I want anything to do with it.
I'm honestly just considering going to grad school for a PhD and later on a professorship, as I think I can put in the long hours of studying and being a professor sounds fair enough.
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