what a coincidence, I was just reading about the somerton beach guy article, that's some god tier mystery.
There's a bunch of weird shit that happened in my country, which might not have ever been published in English Now /x/ has a Wiki maybe I'll write articles about those someday But it's nothing as mindblowing as the somerton beach case or the dyatlov pass incident
this is some creepy shit from the look of it, it's just a result of some mental disorder. What are considered coincidences in the article are probably what reinforced the woman's delirium. This is probably why she was in that hotel in the first place.
The elevator wasn't moving because she pressed many buttons. Most elevators do that. Just walk into a hotel and try pressing all the buttons very quickly in the elevator, you'll see all the leds go off and the elevator will wait until it receives another call. It's a security thingy to prevent kids from messing with the machine.
>>15161064 My favorite DB Cooper theory is that he never existed and was made up by the crew, who were collaborating to get the money.
Possible supporting evidence: >The crew all described a completely average guy in every way >Or were vague about his appearance >all witnesses had foggy memories of the things he said >they described the bomb he held as several sticks of dynamite with a clock on top. Lol what, is this Tom and Jerry? Bombs were far more advanced than that even 30 years ago. >this supposed mastermind criminal jumped out of a plane with a chute he hadn't tested into tempestuous bad weather at a higher altitude than is usually jumped from >nobody ever saw him apart from people on the plane >he ordered two strong drinks while on the flight. Sorry but this is implausible. Unless you have a liver of steel you don't function properly after two glasses of liquor. >the plane was an incredibly specific model which had the ability to open its backside >Cooper supposedly somehow knew how to open it leading to the theory that he was a war veteran >or wait the pilot could have just flicked a switch >despite a ridiculously extensive search, no body was ever found, nor any trace of money, briefcase, or parachutes (yes chutes plural, he supposedly took two and cut one up to use as rope) apart from some money that hasn't been confirmed as related to the case and was also found relatively far from the projected landing site
There's better summaries of the theory but I tried.
>>15161064 the eliza lam case has always interested me. it seems pretty obvious that an employee of the hotel had to have been involved, considering she was able to get onto the roof, and open the water tank.
i find it really strange that the case doesn't have an on-going murder investigation.
look for a defcon talked called "steal everything, kill everyone, cause total financial ruin" there are many others like this but this one should give you a good idea, I believe it has a part about hotel security There are other physical security talks about hotels but I don't remember the names, shouldn't be hard to find tho
>>15161573 the water tank was 8 feet tall, though. and the rooftop door was supposedly locked and guarded by an alarm.
so if she did it herself, the door would have had to been unlocked, alarm off, and she would have had to find a fucking ladder or something to get into the tank.
what's also weird is that all the news articles claim that her history of bipolar disorder is to blame. have you ever met a bipolar person? they don't wig the fuck out and wander into 8 foot tall water tanks. they just have odd mood fluctuations and occasional paranoid delusions.
>>15161534 I also forgot >the eight cigarettes that he supposedly smoked should have left some form of evidence on the plane, they went down to fucking particle level to find this mother fucker >the whereabouts of the butts, ash, and any other shit that falls out of cigarettes are 'unknown.' Unknown my arse, they never existed. If he existed and was smart enough to clean the plane of his cigarette leavings that thoroughly, why the fuck would he be dumb enough to take a dummy parachute? And why would he leave his tie behind? It smells. The tie reeks of a crew member who thought it would be more realistic if the criminal left a calling card
> you go into panic mode and usually wind up automatically pulling your self out of the water.
not if something in your brain is blocking that kind of reflexes
I knew someone who died while eating cause he got some food stuck in his throat, and because he was high on drugs he didn't have the reflex to cough to evacuate the shit and he died cause he couldn't breath. It's not really related to the case as the girl wasn't on drugs they say but being in delirium couldn't have helped her
also, perhaps she couldn't have left the tank even if she wanted to how long do you survive in a tank full of near-boiling hot water? what if the lid closed down on her and couldn't be opened from inside?
>>15161565 when this occured and tapes from elevator wast uploaded on yt, i saw someone on /x/, claming that there's some sort of curse, to fuck somebody up and what you do is you put a corpse in their drinking water, many anons here suggested that it was some sort of ritualistic murder, media will never touch the subject tho, i heard that all bipolar/schizo shit about her was made up to justify the story? i can't give more details, might be something in the archives
look up those in case they're documented in english:
--- the red pullover case if I remember correctly it's about the murder of a girl but no one gave a shit about the case and they most likely ended up executing the wrong person so the case is still not solve, lots of weird shit involved
--- the murder of miss marshall not sure if her name is spelled so, been a long time since I read about it if I remember correctly they found her dead in her cellar, there were a bunch of pools of blood but no trails between them, and apparently she managed to write the name of her murderer on a wall after she was dead....yea but it wasn't the right guy apparently more weird shit
red pullover: http://www.murderpedia.org/male.R/r/ranucci-christian.htm they don't give the whole story but that's a start, this article is about the guy they executed even though there wasn't much proving he was guilty
marshall: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Killed_Me apparently they made a movie about that shit, this article is about the movie, maybe you'll find more references there
yewr welcome if you can dig up some stuff in what's been documented in english be sure to put it on the /x/ wiki to centralize the info then if I got some free time I'll put more info on the article, there's been lots of documentaries and articles and books produced in my language so I might be able to add some stuff
>>15162564 This happened around the same time with Lake Bodom and still remains unsolved too. http://www2.hs.fi/english/archive/news.asp?id=20000627xx1
Then there was another one up north in a small town of Kemi, a young woman called Elli Immo was brutally murdered. Still unsolved too. Many believe they might be connected, since these kinds of homicides were and still aren't common in Finland at all.
>>15161701 >not if something in your brain is blocking that kind of reflexes In that light, makes me wonder if she had taken any (prescribed) antipsychotics or antixyliotics and was a little woozy. Although perhaps the autopsy would have revealed elevated levels in her blood.
>>15162005 After soaking in there for so long, her skin would probably fall off of her bones if they weren't extremely gentle with her body.
Some researchers[who?] claim some facts were missed, perhaps ignored, by officials:
12-year-old Yury Kuntsevich, who would later become head of the Yekaterinburg-based Dyatlov Foundation (see below), attended five of the hikers' funerals, and recalls their skin had a "deep brown tan". Some of the hikers' clothing (2 pants and a sweater) were found to be highly radioactive. Another group of hikers (about 50 kilometers south of the incident) reported that they saw strange orange spheres in the night sky to the north (likely in the direction of Kholat Syakhl) on the night of the incident. Similar spheres were observed in Ivdel and adjacent areas continually during the period from February to March 1959, by various independent witnesses (including the meteorology service and the military). These were later confirmed by Eugene Buyanov to be test launches of R-7 intercontinental missiles. Some reports suggest that there was a great deal of scrap metal in and around the area, leading to speculation that the military had utilized the area secretly and might have been engaged in a cover-up. The last camp of Dyatlov's group was located on a direct path between Baikonur Cosmodrome (where some test launches of the R-7s were executed) to Chyornaya Guba, Novaya Zemlya archipelago (which was a major nuclear testing ground of the Soviet Union).
There was a mysterious disappearance in Sölvesborg, a small town in Sweden just a few miles from where I grew up.
Sölvesborg used to have this underground punk/metal-club by the docks called Kartago, or "huset" as we called it when we used to go there. (It has since been shutdown due to underage drinking/drugging and fights being common there).
The man who disappeared was named Lelle Hildebrand, and he was the manager for the metal band Manowar. The night Manowar played a show at Kartago, their manager Lelle was seen leaving the club with a briefcase (which was reported to have contained 17.500 dollars).
The last time someone saw him was just outside the club at around 21.00 after having been dropped off back there.
No one has heard of or seen him since. Some witnessess also calimed to have heard gunshots outside of the club, but no bullet or body was ever found.
The case has no wiki, but has remained open since January 1999. Here's a Swedish article about it: http://www.expressen.se/kvp/lelle-hildebrands-dod-utreds-igen---efter-14-ar/ And here's a Swedish forum discussing the disappearance: https://www.flashback.org/t163753 the thread on the forum has not been active for many years sadly.
>>15161534 >he ordered two strong drinks while on the flight. Sorry but this is implausible. Unless you have a liver of steel you don't function properly after two glasses of liquor. For most people, two glasses of hard liquor is only enough for a light buzz.
Wow, and now, with your GREAT powers of deduction, could you possibly conjure up some sort of proof ?
Because I believe even captain asshat has been there, at that EXACT trail of thoughts in a heartbeat, but without any solid evidence to support the claim... jut like in so many cases that happen on an everyday basis
>>15160439 One of my best friends in HS's mother disappeared for years without a trace. They eventually found her bones in a forest, next to a tree. The coroner, or whoever it was, said that there were no signs of foul play and it was as if she had just sat down next to the tree and died. Her purse was also found, with the only contents being a "World's Greatest Mother" badge that my friend had given her. I knew the family well, and knew quite a bit more about them than most people. I knew that my friend's step-grandfather, who was the dead woman's stepfather, molested my friend from a very young age, and continued to do it throughout the time we were friends (Before anyone asks, why didnt I help her...blah blah blah, I tried repeatedly, as did several other people, but she would always vehemently deny it when any police or authority would try to get involved. This eventually ended our friendship, but that is neither here nor there) I only naturally assumed that this bastard also did these things to his step daughter, my friend's dead mother. The grandmother knew he did these things, along with all of the other family members that I knew personally. None of them would ever speak up. They were a fucked up bunch, obviously.
I've tried to research her death myself, but have never been able to find any records, besides her tombstone. I was also led to believe that there was an actual Unsolved Mysteries episode including her story. Needless to say, this has always haunted me, and I think it always will.
>>15166364 Yeah, they did find about $5,800 in 1980. If it was the crew, why would they toss a couple of grand out of the plane just in the off chance that someone found it? It's not much out of the total ransom, but it still makes no sense.
>>15166583 And to help people go missing on. The US is covered with thousands and thousands of miles of inter-state highways, and the bulk of those highways run through absolutely nothing - empty desert, old forests, undeveloped plains, tundra, etc. The FBI thinks there are hundreds of active serial killers who hunt on those highways.
>>15166609 http://www.texasobserver.org/highway-injustice/ >In 2004, the [FBI] launched its Highway Serial Killings initiative, creating a repository specifically for information about serial murders gleaned from law enforcement agencies nationwide. By 2009, the initiative had identified 600 victims and upwards of 275 suspects.
>The agency believes there are currently close to 300 “highway serial killers” like Rhoades at large in the U.S. Crisscrossing the nation in big rigs, they are unconfined by city, county and state boundaries. Because the cabs of their trucks are their killing fields, the chances of finding DNA evidence tying a particular truck to a body that’s been tossed out the door are next to none.
I suppose the primary link that could be made to /x/ with Tupac's murder is that there are still those who insist it was a hit initiated in some way by the US government. Or, depending on who you ask, the Illuminati. People typically cite the title of the last album he completed before his death as evidence (The 7 Day Theory - The Don Killuminati) but Tupac actually made clear that the term "Killuminati" was intended to "kill" the idea that the "Illuminati" wanted him dead, as per this quote:
"Thats why i put the "k" to it, because the niggas is telling me about this Illuminati shit while i was in jail. Like the diamonds and all that. Thats another way to keep your self esteem low, that's another way to keep you unconfident. And I'm putting the "k" because I'm killing that Illuminati shit."
He was pretty active within the pro-black movement of the 90's, Nation of Islam, guys like Khalid Muhammed and the rest more or less respected him and saw him as someone who could actually reach black people beyond his music. A visionary in a sense.
>>15161596 Also, wasn't the tank closed? Like, she just went in there and then fucking closed it?
I'm a believer that something odd happened to her, and someone else was definitely involved. Homicide police catch lots of murders, especially in large metropolitan areas, and a lot of the time they don't investigate them further because they want clearances by their name. Something that bizarre could take years to investigate and solve, and you'd have your major kicking your ass every day for looking at it.
Basically, I'm saying the police found no immediate evidence and slapped suicide on her file and moved on. Pretty sad how someone can die, and the people figuring out why give up and say fuck it so quickly.
>>15166609 >>15166801 Yeah, the FBI estimates that there are something like 250 or more active serial killers in the country. See, the difficulty is identifying a pattern of bodies. I also believe there are lots of serial killers that don't just kill a certain way, so the murders appear different and an investigation into serial killings isn't launched.
It's just a logical conclusion. For all the serial killers you learn about, there are just as many more who aren't on any form of radar. They're never identified or investigated. Lots of the ones along that stretch are likely nomadic too, so the killings are spread over a larger geographical location.
Well this is one that has supposedly happened in several states, and one incident happened right where I live which caught my attention. (I live in Upstate New York), it has a lot of rumors going around with people around here every now and then. I'm not sure that it is 'god-tier', but it is pretty interesting. There isn't wikis on the individual cases around here, so I'll write about them.
Supposedly, young men go missing, after a night out drinking and 'drown' while some believe it is actually a strategy of killing. Almost always there is no trace of them and near the supposed dumping site a smiley face is found. Now this is incredibly vague because many people accidentally drown and a smiley face that is graffiti'd isn't exactly a rare thing to see, but it has happened a lot.
It's happened all over the United States. As a kid and even a teenager a lot of us go to the Hudson river or canals around here. There are bodies found in the Hudson near Albany a lot, some are suicides, some are people that go missing, etc. Lots of us are warned to stay away because of the current and sometimes you will see a smiley face near a bridge or on a tree. One recent case around here that had a lot of speculation is Josh Szostak, a guy in his 20s that just went missing after a night out with his friends.
Here is a youtube video of the last time he was seen alive, with the timeline in the description. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK0i-dYLCNg
Elsewhere, Mike Philbin, son of a current Miami Dolphins head coach had a very similar death
>>15160950 I'd never heard of that one either. Seems so very similar to Taman Shud, with the labels removed and the luggage at the public locker. The fact that her finger prints were sanded off, I mean that's not suicide, that's some international spy shit, right there.
>>15167947 I think you're confusing popularity/notoriety with respectability in that movement. Tupac's mother was pregnant with him while in jail facing 150+ charges of conspiracy against the US government. His mother and father were active members of the Black Panthers.
Tupac's early work was almost exclusively politically and socially conscious rap. People mostly remember the album All Eyez On Me which he put out very quickly when he got out of prison in an effort to knock out two of the albums he was responsible for to Death Row and to make the money he needed for the ventures he cared about. The 7 Day Theory split time between taking aim at his rivals and returning to his socially conscious roots, as was the case with his posthumously released work. In his later days he was very clear about his intentions to move away from a primary career in rap and into political involvement.
>>15168003 Happy to help. He was definitely a person of interest to the government and such. Whether or not they had him killed is another matter entirely, of course. The way the East/West feud was going, they really only needed to sit back and watch if his death was their desire.
>>15161675 the fact that she would have had to close the tank behind her, and no it wasn't a hot water tank, just water afaik. There was an autopsy done, and there were no drugs in her system. >>15167991 Holy shit, you're an idiot and you shouldn't talk about shit you have no clue about. BiPolar is nothing like schizophrenia. Bipolar people don't hear voices and get weird delusions, they just have elevated moods.
>>15161064 The fuck? The sherriff knows what happened, knows the people who did it and says he can't do anything without a body..? For one, you could at least try to build a case against these people and look for evidence, testimony, etc. instead of just sitting back. Second, if he knows who did the murders, no doubt he knows where the body is and CAN find it, or at least could've at an earlier date. Third, it sounds like he's covering for a friend or family, why else would you do so little to pursue something you have a good lead on? He really should be investigated. I'm surprised he hasn't recieved more attention.
>>15168440 The killer cut off her hair, and forced her to wear the dress, and heels before murdering her. The photo was taken in an abandoned barn near the road she was suspect to have disappeared, if I remember correctly.
To me she looks like she's been crying a lot. Her eyes are red, and swollen. Appears very out of it, and is backing away. Absolutely one of the most unsettling pictures I've ever seen.
>>15168440 Not sure if 2edgy or doublevirgin or both. She's really not doing that. At all. The girl is fucking terrified, experiencing a fear you and I will likely never know. She's not "showing off" anything.
>>15164704 I love how the senior Scotland Yard officer is stated at the end of that wiki as saying 'he probably just locked himself in the bag' when every witness up until that point stressed exactly the opposite. Clearly, the police were hiding something.
>>15167919 I wanted to acknowledge your post. I found it pretty interesting, but it just doesn't sound… realistic? We don't often see serial killers who drown people, it doesn't seem like the way you'd go about it if you really enjoy what you do. But the idea of just waiting around by a bar until someone goes to take a piss down by the river would be really effective. I just wish there were more evidence of an actual group doing this.
I mean what would be your motive for targeting young good-looking white male college students?
>>15167975 I've always felt this way. The facts that stand out for me are >The part of the suicide note that implies suicide is tacked on to the end and in different hand writing >The private detective hired by Courtney Love herself is convinced she had something to do with it. >No finger prints on the weapon or the heroin >He was found in an odd part of the house no one goes in >He was found by workers hired by Courtney >He was planning on divorcing Courtney, had recently rejected the idea of doing a big show with Nirvana ( I think it was the 90s woodstock) and that pissed her off >If you read his note it can be taken as his explanation for quitting the band >That dude who died on the train tracks by his house the day after he gave that interview for the movie Kurt & Courtney
>>15167975 >>15168534 More, please. >>15167991 Wow, that's idiotic. As someone who was diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder, and have known people with Schizophrenia, they are NOTHING alike. Don't talk about shit you know nothing about.
>>15168534 >The shotgun, a Remington Model 11 20-gauge, was not checked for fingerprints until May 6, 1994. According to the Fingerprint Analysis Report, four latent prints were lifted but contained no legible prints.
>>15161534 >>this supposed mastermind criminal jumped out of a plane with a chute he hadn't tested into tempestuous bad weather at a higher altitude than is usually jumped from >>Sorry but this is implausible. Unless you have a liver of steel you don't function properly after two glasses of liquor. He was a big guy.
>>15168514 It is. I've tried to find the episode of Unsolved Mysteries about her mom, but I've never been able to track it down. The old bastard finally died a few years back. I saw her post about it on shitbook. It pissed me off that she was upset about it, the man who molested every girl in her family, for 3 generations, if not more, and was most likely responsible for the death of her mother.
>>15168534 >>That dude who died on the train tracks by his house the day after he gave that interview for the movie Kurt & Courtney
That dude was Eldon Hoke. He was pushed onto the tracks, by the same dude that killed Kurt, Allen Wrench. Courtney asked Eldon (ElDuce of the Mentors) to do it and he told her to fuck off, but he knew someone who might. Enter Allen Wrench, bassist for a couple bands, and friends with ElDuce. He told Allen about it, Allen took the money, killed Kurt, and then found out that ElDuce had let it slip (on that vidoe you're talking about, if you know what to watch for) that Allen did it. Allen came looking for ElDuce, his room mate told him Duce was drinking on the tracks, he went there, they got into it, and Allen pushed Duce in front of the train. As far fetched as it sounds, I know people that lived in Riverside, that were friends with ElDuce, and they have confirmed this shit. They said everyone knows he did it, it's just that nobody will come forward because of what happend to Eldon. Worst part is, Eldon was a jam up dude. One of the best people you could know, he just got drunk and accidentally said something he shouldnt have and fuckface Wrench killed him for it. I'm more upset that he killed Eldon that Kurt.
>>15161642 ok if i was elisa, i would probably go about climbing that ladder on the building next to the tanks and then lowering myself in, not at all hard to get into the tanks...getting to the roof though...maybe it was a one in a million chance that the door was unlocked and the alarm didn't sound, i mean after all, the hotel is known to be sleazy, so maybe a employee went up there to have a smoke, and forgot to lock the door again?
>>15163145 >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Gosch this is just stupid. obviously if the mother wasnt so headstrong about publicity and making shit up then MAYBE something woud have gotten done, it also make me think that maybe she is involved as well, it says nothing about her being a suspect, and its obvious pretty early on in the article that she is making shit up
>>15169662 Links to serial killers who drown people please? >>15169763 Sounds a lot like the dude in a documentary that was posted here once. Guy kept marrying women who had girl children and seriously molesting all of them, so it was just this big super fucked up white trash family. When the guy died some of the women showed up to his funeral trashed and just talked all this shit about how glad they were the sick fuck was dead. Anyone know what I'm talking about? >>15169799 Yeah, this all lines up with what I heard. ElDuce did seem like a cool dude. Super suspicious that a guy who gets drunk like every day should just happen to get drunk and die right behind his house not he train tracks. Super sketch. I'll have to watch the interview again. But who pilled the beans about the interview? It had only been the day after that he died.
>>15171166 >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaz_II http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho2nK5IQs_g >>15170647 That's a pretty cool story. The official explanation makes sense, but it kills the mystery. You'd think the guys would be smarter than to try and untangle that line when the sails are still up.
>>15171216 A little google fu and I came up with some kind of linked-in like site with a profile on his. Most recent info was a press release from 2006 saying he got out of rehab only to find out he'd been booted from his place as CEO of something, like a death metal label or just the band.
I can't believe so many people know what happened and this dude is just going to get away with it.
>>15161534 "unless you have a liver of steel you don't function after TWO strong drinks" I can deal with cops and come off as sober after far more than two drinks, sir. So, I would have to disagree with this point. Hell, if you're an alcoholic you don't function until you've had two strong drinks.
>>15172334 Well he was well known for being depressed. He almost named one of Nirvana's albums "I hate myself and want to die", although it sort of seems to be kind of a joke. He also had an OD in PAris, I think, a few months before his death which at the time Courtney swore up and down was NOT a suicide attempt, but then of course after he died that's what she called it from then on.
Supposedly Courtney was also banging someone from the SPD, so who knows?
>>15167975 Oh, you knew Kurt Cobain closely? Nobody else in Nirvana were "surprised" by Kurts suicide, he was a heroin addict for decades and the stress from going between a nobody on the streets to the biggest name in music over the course of like 4 years was too much for his H riddled brain to handle.
>>15172398 >>15172372 >Guy is dead >We only need this one fact about his life to determine what happened here. Either read into it and address some of the points that have been brought up, or GTFO. You're worse than fucking cops. Go meet your boys at Chili's and let us talk about /x/ shit.
>>15172372 I want to know why people accused Courtney of killing him. I've heard millions of things, but nothing that sounded realistic. Did she get a buttload of money after he died? Or did that belong to their daughter? I'm not even sure, but I'm curious.
>>15172413 Yes, everything went to her (including 50% of everything Nirvana does). There were rumors that Kurt had been talking to lawyers about divorce. And the Detective COURTNEY hired to "investigate" kurt's death (so Courtney didn't think it was suicide) slowly became convinced she did it. Everyone from her own father to her band mates talked about what a violent sociopath she was. Even her own daughter hates her.
>>15172435 Yeah I heard her own father thought she had something to do with it. I know she lost custody of her daughter, and I know she hates her. I also read that Frances admitted that Courtney would kill their pets. Pretty freaky.
>>15172451 Damn, I hadn't heard that http://gawker.com/5881652/frances-bean-cobain-says-courtney-love-killed-her-pets What a cunt. You should check out Frances' Twitter. She's so beautiful, she' bleaches her hair blonde now, but she's so much prettier than her mom ever was, and she has her dad's deep blue eyes.
>>15172490 Because he spoke and rapped about love and peace. Wrote poetry about love and struggle. That doesn't fit the white man power structure. That picture if shit and your tiny white weiner feels inferior.
>>15172639 I don't understand how they couldn't have been afraid. They knew about the footprints, the mysterious newspaper, the noises they heard. Or did they believe their old maid who said the place was haunted? Did the cops even ask her questions? Or if she saw anybody?
I'm just saying, if I saw footsteps leading to my house and heard noises I'd at least investigate or call the cops or something. Seems like if someone took action they wouldn't have died.
>>15172654 Well I guess the father had just been kind of puzzled by the prints and the paper and mentioned it to the mail man. Maybe the maid was the only one who heard the noises? This kind of area your neighbor is a few kilometers away so no one would have seen or heard anything. But they noticed that all the animals on the farm had been fed since the family stopped showing up to school and church and stuff. The bodies were a few days old by the time they found them. Who knows even if they found the original maid afterwards. It was right after this that WWII broke out so the skulls were lost and probably most of the records on the case too.
>>15161588 >they don't wig the fuck out and wander into 8 foot tall water tanks. they just have odd mood fluctuations and occasional paranoid delusions. Well, bipolar people do, in fact, wig the fuck out and maybe her wigging out manifested itself by her crawling into a water tank for a strange suicide.
I think someone else had to be involved, but I also don't think she was in a good mental state from that video.
>>15172812 They never did find her body, but the last dude to see her alive was recently arrested in Peru or something and accused by a woman of beating her up or some shit. I don't know if he's still in jail. http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=natalee+holloway+body+found&id=D5781EA4703D478DA050E330EEB67C76EDB37E74&FORM=IARRTH#view=detail&id=D5781EA4703D478DA050E330EEB67C76EDB37E74&selectedIndex=0
This is supposedly a picture of a body spotted by some people scuba diving in Aruba. Some think it might be her.
>>15172826 Did some googling, apparently, Joran wanted to fuck her but she refused, so he gropes her and she smacked him. Then, he beat her, strangled her to near death, and left her in a sandy ditch where she died. Then he took her corpse, and put it in a casket that was preppes for burial.
But with all the shit Joran's been confessing to, its anyones guess. What puzzles me is why the Aruba government didn't look into Joran's claim of selling her.
>>15172890 Well apparently Joran has said in an interview that his dad was wealthy and influential enough to pay off cops and judges and shit. I was just reading about the woman he murdered in Peru. I guess she had just won over $10k at the casino and he might have been just trying to rob her. They also think she accessed his computer while he was out of the room and found stuff about the Halloway case. I guess this chick was murdered 5 years to the day after Halloway went missing, maybe he had been reminiscing and she saw his google searches. >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joran_van_der_Sloot#Death_of_Stephany_Flores I guess after he serves his 28 years for murder in Peru he's supposed to be extradited to the US to face extortion charges for taking money from Halloway's mom in exchange for knowledge the the whereabouts of Natalee's body which he never gave up. BUT he's impregnated his Peruvian GF, and apparently if he has a Peruvian baby he can be granted citizenship and then they can't extradite him. The guy does a lot of legal research after the fact.
>>15172428 He did an AMA on reddit where someone thought they knew who he was. He totally ignored the question and some have speculated that either he's lying about not knowing who he is or he actually doesn't want to find out because he enjoys all the attention.
>>15168428 Is this the "Welcome to /x/!" thread? Every single one of these has been discussed at length. Which is fine, always interested in the classics, but the fact this whole thread has been a couple poor bastards catching everyone up on the basics is tiring.
>>15164535 I'd base it off of the legs - they're in poor display shape for a chick who wears dresses or skirts. Also, the metatarsals of her left foot are evident above the toe of the shoe. A woman might choose shoes that fit better.
I'm not saying it isn't a woman, but, I would entertain the possibility that there are some cross-dresser like "mistakes" here.
My pet theory: The alarm was never on, the door was unlocked and there was a ladder leading right up to top of the tank. After a few reports of nasty water the manger of the hotel goes to check the water tank and sees a bloated body floating in it, he freaks out and realizes that he could be in for a world of legal shit. A: all his patrons have been drinking contaminated water B: the unlocked door and leaving a ladder there could be considered criminal negligence (or some other charge, not a lawyer) He realizes he can't dispose of the body but he can pretend he had properly secured the area and this was some mysterious freak accident, so he removes the ladder, locks the door behind him and turns on the alarm THEN reports it.
>>15166557 I've never been crazy about Jack the Ripper because it was fucking eons ago. There were no real investigative techniques back then, anybody who wanted to pull that kind of shit in those days could get away with it if they were half smart.
Short's severely mutilated body was severed at the waist and completely drained of blood. Not only was the body bloodless, but her body had been obviously washed by the killer as well. Her face had been slashed from the corners of her mouth toward her ears, creating an effect called the Glasgow smile. Short also had multiple cuts on her thigh and breasts, where entire portions of flesh had been removed. Her lower half was positioned a foot away from her torso, and the intestines were tucked neatly under the buttocks. The body had been "posed" with her hands over her head, her elbows bent at right angles, and her legs spread. Near the body, detectives found a cement sack which contained droplets of watery blood, as well as a heel print on the ground amidst tire tracks.
This isn't really "unsolved" per se, people pretty much know what happened... But it's kinda fucked that this could happen anywhere, even a major city, and millions of people would just be completely fucked.
>>15178296 I once read an analysis that pointed out that the event occurred at a 'safe' period in human history. The author argued that, had the exact same event occurred during the Cold War, it could have been misinterpreted as a misdirected ICBM launched by the US.
IMHO, they had a very good point. At a time when Cold War paranoia was at its highest, ICBM technology was in its infancy, and, most importantly, the impact dynamics of comets/asteroids were very poorly understood, the brilliant fireball and enormous blast could have easily been mistaken for a nuclear attack.
Also, I don't know if you saw the documentary on the Chelyabinsk impact, but it is an amazing/alarming/beautiful/terrifying thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28l9vm2Mvd4
According to various experts the radiation was minor surface contamination and probably from Lyudmila Dubanina’s coat. It was probably from a laboratory environment (Radium, Radon and Potassium) and not from any recent weapons use. A point has been made that prior to the moratorium on atomic weapons testing a fair number of detonations had been carried out in Russia and in other parts of the world. Again, it was not uncommon that small amounts of “fall-out” might be spread far and wide.
>>15168519 It's a pretty known fact that many killers are killers due to trauma in the past. If said killer had an experience in which someone on his family drowned and it changed him forever, then his motive for drowning really isn't that unexplainable. The smiley face on the other hand, I have no idea. Maybe a mental illness.
Project "Slava" (Glory) in Tsarichina. Number of mysterious deaths+suicides: Classified.
Long story short: In search of a burial chamber of a Medieval King, the scientists start picking up radiation and such. They call in some clairvoyants and they say that there is alien activity down there. The archaeological dig was transformed into a fortress and the military went pro on digging inside. Clairvoyants were accompanying the dig.
Results: Mysterious death started occurring, equipment started malfunctioning and clairvoyants started suiciding.
After some deaths, some of which were family members of government officials, the project was suddenly labeled "not worth the investment" and the excavation was sealed, Chernobyl style.
>>15179784 >It became famous in the early 1990s, when the Bulgarian military began digs in the centre of the village.The digs were initially in search of a purported hidden treasure of King Samuil. The project's aim changed because a woman received signals from aliens that the world's first "intelligent" creature was buried under Tsarichina. Even Baba Vanga confirmed that "down there is a creature... not a man, not a woman, "a yellow monkey"... why do you need it?". During the digging of the tunnel leading to the creature, aliens sent messages to the woman that they were coming to see the work that was being done. They also said that there were apparently highly-advanced Bulgarians living around the universe. In addition, at least one UFO was encountered and mass witnessed by army personnel and villagers during the course of the digs. >highly advanced Bulgarians living around the universe
>Bulgarians >highly advanced
One "highly advanced" Bulgarian would equal one normal european.
>Girl goes to visit friends house >Goes missing and eventually found dead >Graffiti claiming responsibility appears on an old barn >No clues to killer's identity for years or new murders >Suddenly plastic ziplocks containing letter, naked photos of a man, and semen samples are found in places such as a little girl's bike basket >Letter claims the person is the April Tinsley killer and he's been stalking her >Semen samples match >Still nothing found to killer's identity
This story always hits me when I read about it. I hope they catch this fucker.
>>15165219 Not to the degree that doing what DB Cooper allegedly did was impossible, or even improbable. If anything, having a few drinks before doing something like that would make it easier (on your nerves, anyways).
>>15182897 http://apocalisselaica.net/en/varie/miti-misteri-e-poteri-occulti/il-caso-tsarichina Here's one. Actually there are close to no articles on it.
The case was covered up. Like I said, number of deaths: Classified.
People who tried to pry in it, suddenly lost their jobs and such. There is close to no material published about it, safe for 1-2 books in Bulgarian, 2-3 journalistic researches, and like 50 articles from newspapers, which cover the beginning of the project, since it was big news at the time. But since relatives of government higher ups died in mysterious ways, and people believed aliyums were involved, everything was covered up.
>>15178815 Pointless creepypasta, picture is from a camp of two russkies that were found by finns. The two had resorted to cannibalism after having either deserted or become lost from their unit (can't remember which). Pictured is what is left of the third russky.
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