/x/, We have some spooky happenings going on in one of our threads. Specifically, this thread:
Some anon posted this picture with coordinates, implying this is where Tara Calico could be. Question is, is this the same girl? There are no reverse image results on the second pic.
examining the photo, she looks a slight bit older, her hair is ruffled. The photo is graining suggesting the same time period. same skin tone, same eye brows, same nose, same hair color. eyes are same colr. breast size looks about tight. body fat looks to be of similar preportion. She has a sock on her right hand, probably her left aswell, suggesting the lashings on her wrist are used frequently. i do not know why the rope is on her chest>
In both pictures light comes from the photographers camera. Both photos the beds are unkempt. Both photos have a look of repetition in the victims eyes. I dont see a match in the furniture, different places.
Ive searched and nothing has come up with this photo.
Not to mention coords were added to this. very specific.
the place of abduction and the finding of the original photo were many many hundreds of miles. There is a good chance the captor put this here.
Someone look up if "helplessrabbit" has anything to do with that book.
Heres original photo.
the coordinates lead to an area of the "parc national des grands-jardins" (national park in quebec) slightly south of a river, with higher elevation, this can be assumes due to water shed. It is also near a path or road.
Canadian here, I'd call but my home phone is on the fritz.
That being said, this guy might be onto something
Meat posted a lot of videos regarding holding people captive for a long time
Does anyone have any theories on this? if it is him, why upload it? what does he want out of this. Where could this photo have been taken? why did he take it?
alternately, this is taken AFTER the first picture(possibly) as such, it could be progress with his "brain washing"
It's not the same girl. They have completely different hair textures and eyebrows/eyebrow ridges (Calico has a lower bridge and straight, thicker brows while the girl in the second picture his a higher ridge and thinner, arched brows; plucked no doubt but still, Calico wouldn't get those results even if she did pluck hers; trust me, I know eyebrows).
Also, the girl in the second picture appears to be into this. It's probably just some older s&m picture someone found, nothing else.
Well there's one theory on the /b/ thread. There were two other unreleased photos. Maybe this was one of those.
There is also someone saying he saw this on /s/ in a three picture set of some dude saying it was his ex gf posing for bondage stuff, but neither of them posted proof.
There are many possible scenarios. She could be dead now, or he could be dying. He could be planning on finally releasing her. Or, this image has always been around, just not available to the general public, and someone who has access to it just felt like posting it.
wat. how can you even tell her hair texture in either of those old shitty photos?
also as far as the hair cutting/primping goes, a ton of child murderers/rapists are into that.
It's the same girl, dude. I don't care what you say about eyebrows, they can look really different sometimes. Her nose and facial shape is the same, and her hair looks like it may be cut, but it's got the same sort of texture/look to it.
Reposting my /b/ reply because why not? Also, I don't know how to do a cross-reply, so bear with me.
Well, considering there were two other Polaroids taken of Calico (according to that Wikipedia article), this may be one of the unreleased ones... That doesn't necessarily mean she's still alive or that this particular photo is "new." It could have been taken shortly after that initial photo. Considering that those other 2 Polaroids were never released, this is very interesting.
There's also this article. http://www.foxnews.com/story/2009/08/29/new-letters-stir-20-year-old-unsolved-mystery-apparent-child-abduction-photos/ Which is another one I found really interesting as well. So maybe anon works where these letters were received? It still doesn't explain the coordinates that were posted on /x/ though.
THIS SITE has testimonial by Calico's mother that both of OP's pictures are of Calico!!!
It is legit!!!!!!!!1
You can see generalities. Calico's is kind of frizzy while the second girl has smoother hair. Yeah the haircut makes a difference but it wouldn't be that substantial.
The main thing is the eyebrows and theirs look totally different. As said, even if Calico had hers plucked they still wouldn't look the same as the girl on the right, who also has wider eyes.
But I guess we'll see, maybe she was kidnapped by the greatest eyebrow plucking/sculpting artisan there ever was.
no keep in mind the photos are in different angles, and different facial expressions. the eyebrows look fairly similar. both thin and taper off, if you look to her left eyebrow in the original pic you can see how it is raised, it looks the same as in the new. Also the hair texture looks the same to me, except the newer photo is grainier, and lighting is different...
also, we have two annons at the coords. it leads into a pond...
Pretty much all eyebrows taper off. It doesn't explain the different brow ridge and eyebrow shape. Even if the kidnapper took her to a really great eyebrow sculptor I don't think she'd get the same results as the girl in the second pic. It doesn't matter what the angle is because it won't affect how they look to such a dramatic degree.
I also just find it weird in general that a kidnapped victim would be getting her eyebrows professionally groomed, though maybe she had Stockholm syndrome.
Also I wouldn't discount the anons who said they'd seen images like the girl on the right before.
You dags are sad. Seriously. There is zero proof the photos are the same girl and random coordinates do nothing to further this. The police are going to laugh and go back to whatever they were doing. You sad fag will believe anything, and connect random dots.
While I doubt that they are the same girl it makes for a neat thread with forest exploration rp.
And yeah, it's not like anyone can make up coordinates to a creepy lake or whatever.
Still it'd be neat if they dragged it.
this is one of Meat's videos.
the audio and video editing techniques are pretty damn advanced, moreso than most of these other hurr ARG fags. this guy's like the real life ToTheArk but without all the nice aesthetics.
This is assuming the location means anything and that the photo is even of the same girl to begin with.
I must say if this is trolling my hats off to whoever did it, you really got people going.
HEY ITS ME, MIKE
ok you guys i just found the most disturbing shit ever here fuck fuck fuck this was a fucking mistake i'm uploading it now should be right up for you, heres the link:
this shit is getting too intense for me i think im gonna run
Any suggestions on how we can get ahold of the other 2 supposed un-released photos???
Let's do this
Honestly at this point even if it ends up being bullshit we don't know for sure and if it isn't then we've made a mistake.
Let's atleast try, it's not like we have anything better to do.
guys I think I found something. It looks like something was just buried by the lake
Do you guys think it's weird the old pic is so pixelated?
Okay I'm completely new to /x/ and this entire case in general but I'm interested. This thread is the first thing I've ever seen about her. I already read her wikipedia page but I don't get what is going on right now. Is there any kind of special wiki with more information I can read, or can any of you fill me in? Who is meat?
I'm from Quebec, I got a little startled to see the coords being somewhere here tbh.
Anyways, I googled mapped the coords, and it's a 5 hour trip from where I'm at, and I have no car. So I'll be of no use. But I'll look at the news and stuff these upcoming weeks and will post if there's any news
Someone give me the coordinates.
I live hours outside of Quebec, but have been to the area people have mentioned.
Calling the local PD once someones gives me coordinates.
These are the coordinates that were posted:
Here's what I found when I zoomed into those coordinates as accurately as I could. Can't really tell what it is from the pic.
Fuck, I'm nervous.
I need someone to give me SOMETHING about the original thread poster, and what they posted.
I don't care if I look like a fuckwhit for not reading the whole thread. I've researched this case years ago, and am really to finally get it closed.
I'm not sure what the OP of this situation said originally. Did he literally say "i have the coordinated to her body", and is there any veracity to what he's saying?
literally just read the OP, shouldn't be too hard to figure out. someone posted that new pic in another thread that appears to be the girl. the picture hasn't been seen and no results on reverse image search
Dumbfuck, I live 7 hours away. Not gonna happen.
Also, I question if I do have enough evidence, you're right.
There's been 3 solid cases of killers posting the GPS co's for bodies and it turned out to be real.
In my opinion, if it IS real, the sick fuck made the thread with some "blah blah remember these guys blah blah" then used that as a scapegoat to post the coordinates after it got interest.
What should I do guys; literally have Quebec's local department in my phone.
call it. even if it turns out to be nothing, the chance that it could be warrants it.
think if that was your child missing? would you want a clue to have been missed that could have saved, or found your daughter because some random annon "wasnt posotive."
I mean... I basically asked if she was okay, and the next response were those coordinates. I waited a while to respond to that photo, too, because I was kind of tripping, and staring at pictures of Tara and comparing them to make sure it was her, then his response was just instant. Very creepy.
I'm also skeptical that this photo has never been released.
If the mother, on that "blog" verified "both pictures were of her daughter" then this new image isn't being brought to light; it's just an old image that somehow made public.
And the image does look old; the police sketches of her appearance now mean that she would...well look old as fuck.
The only reason I'm almost calling police is;
1) There is a history of btards submitting coordinates to dead bodies
2) it's been this long without ANY leads, that this could be it.
Also 2 problems;
1) The killer would likely be in his 50's+ by now. Unlikely BUT there is a chance he uses /random/
2) the girl and boy were abducted so far away from Quebec, that it's likely they weren't transported from Mexico to Quebec
This anons interpritation of the pictures, take it how you will
>dude stole a girl and a kid
>sick fuck, wants to rape them and brainwash them
>stockholme syndrome is a thing too
>guy takes pictures 30 years ago
>guy takes another picture showing progress, she is progressing further to being how he wants and maybe stockholme starts kicking in
>30 years or so later, he is getting old and wants to give them back or they are dead
>makes a thread on 4chan
>posts coords and a picture to the thread to give 4chan a trail
He is obviously going to take care of them in this case. Her boobs are going to be smaller from when she is clothes/naked because the bra will make her boobs like bigger and better. Also, a couples faces will change as their relationship grows to look like eachother. perhaps this happened and the second picture is 2+ years later and there are subtle differenced
That, or we are getting trolled super hard and its super working
I feel like someone is fucking with us.
The "meat" guy from Quebec has a lot of videos of Rivers, but none uploaded recently.
I think if it IS meat (which I don't think it is) his last video (being a river, and titled in french Canadian) was uploaded 2 months ago.
MAYBE he's grown tired of people not finding clues and came to /b/ with suddenly flawless english.
However, I don't think it's Meat. I also think that someone started a thread with another not-so-common picture of the girls and then posted Coordinates just to fuck with people.
I've seen people laugh a child porn on B. Chances are it's not real. However, my reasoning is split 50/50 whether I call the police.
I actually just called them, but got a dead line re-directing me to non-emergency situations and pussied out.
They're the same thickness exactly and even shaped the same way. I mean, it's not out of the question that it's a different girl, but I'm 99% sure. I'm an artist so I've spent a stupid amount of time observing the human form. I definitely think it's the same girl.
People can look radically different in different photos, look at other pictures of Tara.
i previously thought it was her. i dont think it is.
Look at her eyes. Taras left eye is lazy. this girls isnt. her mother has even said she has a lazy eye.
while the nose and face shape, hair even and skintone line up. this one factor breaks it.
looking at that, the nose is 100% different. look how the nose on the naked girl points down over the tape, and polaroid girls doesn't.
also just so you guys know, the police aren't even certain that the girl in the polaroid is Tara.
Why would you stick around the place you kidnapped a girl for 30+ years? Like I said above >>16063834, perhaps he got them both to a point where they are comfortable being outside of bondage and he moved to somewhere rural in canada with them.
annons went to the location. some guy named MIKE
heres a photo he uploaded
Also, Quebec-Police-Call-Tard here.
Here nose is FAR too long on the left, her eyebrows are too groomed and arched, and her jaw seems too elongated.
I'm not sure what to do.
wow a grieving and horrified mother wants to believe her daughter is still alive that is such a rare thing for parents of kidnap victims you're right. I need to check myself.
it's probably her, im just saying, no ones 100% that it is.
give it a call anyways man. Like i said. THE CHANCE that it could even be near a clue warrants a call.
how would you like it if you found out someone could have saved or found your daughters body but ignored a possible clue.
worst case scenario is that we are wrong and you look silly for going to police with evidence of a major crime
best case scenario is that you actually give them legit evidence and the mystery is solved/deepened
lol we dont, but he said he went there.
and it was on /b/. Never know though. Apparently he got stuck in the mud.
>They're the same thickness exactly and even shaped the same way
You must be trolling with this. The eyebrows on those two women look totally different and even if Tara plucked and shaped hers they would never look like the newer pictures.
Also the nose is totally different.
I know that Tara's mother identified the girl in the picture with the boy as Tara, but since we're talking about eyebrows.
The eyebrows of the picture with boy are flatter and the eyebrows in the picture here are rounder.
It just makes me think Tara's mother might be wrong.
he didn't post it on /b/, he posted it here.
and it's not like that pic is available to everyone, it's not. Nobody had seen that pic until tonight, and it returns nothing on reverse image search. Whoever posted it is definitely involved and this needs to be investigated. He probably wants to get caught, or is Meat trolling(or maybe Meat isn't a troll and he's fucking nuts. his latest video is called longpig which is cannibal lingo for human being)
the cops only release a certain ammount of the evidence they have because if someone else has bits of the unreleased evidence it warrants investigation. Likely the only people that have seen this photo before tonight are Police, her mother, and the culprit. now we've all seen it.
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I locked my keys in the trunk on accident. I also lost a shoe in the mud cause I can't see anything and now I don't want to talk anywhere but I have to. fuck you /x/
I'm the OP, I've posted in all these threads. But I didn't post those pics. Someone did say in one of the /b/ threads that this was part of a bondage set though. never posted proof so I don't know.
Found a good spit in bushes, guys left
also, anyone wanna try getting the exif data from meat's videos to figure out where he is, in case we find stronger evidence he's involved in this?
Mike don't become kill, we need to find out who was kidnapper... and who... was fone..
blood trailed off woods 100 feet in front of me
hey, did we all miss this?
before posting the new photo, he posted a pic with this one area circled.
what is he telling us to look at? I have no idea.
Found old trailer holding junk, smells
Well, if they boarded a train maybe, as in the one referenced in the unreleased photos said to be in the hands of the police.
But the sheer distance risk assessment and trouble someone would have to go to transport Tara privately in that van they describe would be too great. Unless of course she wanted to make it seem as if she had been kidnapped, and had really run away with some psycho due to Stockholm syndrome.
Whatever, I’m new to this and don’t know half of it.
Let me just add that the polaroid was found in Florida, whereas she was abducted in New Mexico.
Now they could;ve fled I guess because there was lots of pressure to find this girl, but I think it's just more evidence that the polaroid girl isn't Tara at all. Seriously why would someone not bury a dead body in all that vast desert?
I guess if he wanted to keep her alive maybe.
Don't let this ARG bullshit distract you. How stupid are you? ARGs are a recent phenomenon. Tara Calico was kidnapped in the 1980's. There is no way the kidnapper would think about ARG shit in the 1980's. No way.
Well buddy, you better cover your tracks so you're not a suspect.
Just called the local police of the area. He said they're sending agents out to look at the area, and that he'd "call me if they need something".
Seriously. Just called and reported. So you assholes better be right, or else I feel real fuckin' stupid.
Well, I was charting where she was kidnapped from on her bike to those coordinates, not to where the picture was found.
After all it's just a picture, and they may have given it to some messed up people.
Anyway, maybe I'll chart the path there as well.
I respect and admire you for noticing
>noko 04/26/15(Sun)00:36:59 No.16063870▶>>16063897 >>16064024 >>16064174
Actually called the local police to the region.
After being transferred in French about 4 damn times, I gave the coordinates, and they are "proving an investigation".
Seriously, I did it.
I feel like a fucking retard. Ffs, it was probably some Quebec dummy or dude who randomly searched a location and jotted the coordinates down.
Anyway, they were called and given full info of the thread(s) and location.
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I find funny on how Mike can take a picture, type and post a image on this thread whilst running.
I don't think it was the same person in the two photos. Hopefully the police will have better luck then we do. But, we don't even know if the coordinates and the photo were posted by the same person.
I did let him know;
1) I feel stupid and over-paranoid
2) there is (though a minor) history of people posting legitimate coordinates/info to dead bodies
3) I want to protect my claim by also stating that, JUST because the girl was from New Mexico, does not mean that there isn't something of interest
4) Basically I made him promise I would not face legal issues.
I am not even worried, legally. I just feel so stupid.
Oh well, thought I know the chances are about 60/40 (at best), at least this is likely a last link that there is no chance Tara will be found.
The pic could be posted on deep web, once I went there to see how bad it really is and I saw a bondaged girl for sale, I have no intentions to return since.
So yeah pics like this are verx common on the deep web
>lel deep web
>am 2 spooked to go back
>i am expert on such webs
The most perverse thing about this is that now I find the kidnapped girl extremely hot.
I would instantly release her if I found her of course, but still kinda makes you think if you could have one too...
After all, I am not a bad guy. Why should psychopaths get all of the sexy kidnapped girls?
I have asked a friend of mine who is a doctor about what he thinks of this strange second never seen before picture.
First of all, she seems to be very well nourished, and seems to be healthy, so she is being taken care of, not being forced to stay away from food or anything. Like, she has no signs of malnutrition or anemia.
Also, notice that there are no marks on her body suggesting she may have suffered agressions or beating.
Her hair is also nicely cut, further suggesting she is being taken care of, or at least living a healthy lifestyle.
He said she may even have a sun mark on the cleavage.
So it's probably an old bondage picture of a girl that looks like her and was put there as a hoax or something.
>Im not supposed to be this spooked at work
lol real classy man. on the bright side, your innocent untill proven guilty.
lol fuckin retards sometimes.
Alright seriously though guys. this thread took a turn into satire. lets get back to seriousness.
lets assume we havent found this seccond picture. What are the abductors motives to surface new information? what was his intention to leave behind that polaroid?
Well, it may be that whoever put those bandages on was trying to be sure not to hurt her, so I think it adds to this being no more than a fantasy or something.
Either this or this girl was kidnapped by some guy who turned her into his sex slave, so he takes good care of her so she can last longer.
However, I am not even sure it's the same girl anymore.
What the fuck's even going on, didn't that girl disappear in the 90s
The idea is that the picture is from the 1980's, showing a young Tara Calico months or a couple of years after kidnapping.
Not that it is a NEW picture showing an old Tara Calico. Whatever it is she has probably been dead for at least 20 years now.
It is like the killer is fucking with us, sending photos of her kidnapping collection. Maybe he wants to get caught and to be famous. Maybe he is just bored.
Everyone in this thread is now breathing manually.
I'll say what I said above, in the first picture there is a book about rape and brainwashing. Perhaps his motive was not for murder-rape but maybe something more permanent. Maybe he wants them as something like pets, slaves, or maybe he is just lonely? There is always the possibility that he sold them off to somebody on deepweb after properly "training them".
In the second picture, which I assume is fake, she looks a lot calmer and well-kept. This could be because of her training and the abductor is taking care of them and wanted to pretty her up.
Once again, this was like 30 years ago so perhaps he is trying to give himself up, give them up if they aren't sold, or something more sinister.
Assuming both of those girls pictured are Tara Calico,
Even if they find her body, they will never catch the culprit. I imagine he washed her thoroughly before dumping her, though it wouldn't matter at this point, she's completely decomposed by now.
But he may be getting old enough now to be willing to surrender the location of his victim.
So maybe it's real.
Now to the only thing of real usefulness I might add. Assuming that this is real, we have a final clue, "HelplessRabbit.png". Maybe just fanciful wordplay, perhaps not. We can't even be sure that the person who posted the picture is the same that posted the coordinates. It does seem unlikely, but not impossible (pic related).
So, onward to speculation in regards to "HelplessRabbit". Tara Calico is clearly helpless, but if she is a rabbit, she is by necessity a doe. A Jane Doe. Someone may have already located the remains of Tara Calico, but failed to identify her. A murderer would know when and if this happened, as he would be following the area's local news outlets and the like.
If this were the case, though, the coordinates posted seem to be bullshit, because there are no Jane Does of similar-enough description in Canada's missing persons index within an appropriate time span.
But it is possible that her remains were mis-identified, which I suppose would make her situation markedly more "helpless", as it were.
It's all a bit of a stretch.
Occam's razor tells me that it's just a couple of underage posters playing who's the better rusemaster on their favorite containment board.
I didn't believe that people actually did this. What in the actual fuck. 4chan ain't just lulz anymore.
I'll leave the research up to you.
The "meat" man who uploaded French-Quebec Titled Videos on his channel, had one of a river.
Guess what the poem in the description said?
Don't guess, I'll tell you.
"Doe, a deer and female deer".
Doe, a Female Deer. Who lives in a forest.
Doe; the last name of unidentified person; Jane Doe.
So you think she was sold on the deep web in 1988?
And many people here think that a 2015 YouTube ARG dude might be a 1988 kidnapper?
You guys have a fantastic grasp of recent history.
That is exactly how I see it. I am the police, you are the police and the police is the police.
The only question that remains is who polices the police? And who polices the ones who police the police?