> "Indeed you are in a bad way to be free like your dog! Do you not eat, sleep, propagate like him, even almost to the attitude? Do you want the sense of smell other than through your nose? Why do you want to have liberty otherwise than your dog has? B: But I have a soul which reasons much, and my dog reasons hardly at all." - Voltaire
> "A tree has the faculty of receiving in its fibres its sap which circulates, of unfolding the buds of its leaves and its fruit; will you ask what the soul of this tree is? it has received these gifts; the animal has received those of feeling, of memory, of a certain number of ideas." - Voltaire
> "This remark is rather foreign to the article SOUL; but should one miss an opportunity of dismaying those who make themselves unworthy of the name of men of letters, who prostitute the little mind and conscience they have to a vile self-interest, to a fantastic policy, who betray their friends to flatter fools, who in secret powder the hemlock which the powerful and malicious ignoramus wants to make useful citizens drink? In short, while we worship God with all our soul, let us confess always our profound ignorance of this soul, of this faculty of feeling and thinking which we possess from His infinite goodness." - Voltaire
> "The lawyer and the financier would be better off in France than elsewhere." - Voltaire
> "The water of the Nile had later the same virtue as the water of the Ganges: to these purifications other ceremonies were added: I avow that they were still more impertinent." - Voltaire
> "She answers that it was by their way of bowing." - Voltaire
> "Spinoza was not only atheist, but he taught atheism; it was not he assuredly who took part in the judicial assassination of Barneveldt; it was not he who tore the brothers De Witt in pieces, and who ate them grilled." - Voltaire
>>16928010 Nope. I'm far too attached to the physical plane. I think I may have had incarnations in monastery-type environments, and in this life, despite being spiritual as fuck, I'm loving just being here and all it has to offer. I'll do enlightenment some other time.
>>16928125 We do not see the world as it is, we see the world as we are. If you believe that you could never find an enlightened teacher on /x/, then you never will. If on the other hand you believe that such teachers may choose to work here on /x/, then you might find them.
>>16928188 Take your point, but everyone will have different reasons for coming here. I'm not claiming enlightenment, but I have been around a while studying this stuff. I only recently started spending more time here on /x/. I've found that replying to some posts has helped me get back into writing after some time off. So it's not totally altruistic, neither is it just ego-tripping. And I can learn here, as well.
My 'see the world' comment was a bit tongue-in-cheek. I don't know if we would ever get an ascended Master to post here. But if they saw a need, who knows? I'm guessing they wouldn't advertise themselves as such though.
> on the train from work to home. > Go sit down and stare into nothing as I wait for my stop. > Body does not feel, I do not see anything, but the same thing i was staring at at the start. Nothing moves > Train conductor shakes my shoulder, asks if i am high. > I have been staring straight in front of me for several hours. > Conductor started to doubt if I was even breathing > Conductor watched me for 20 something minutes, I did not blink.
The wierd thing is that for me it felt like only several seconds have passed, like dozing of for a bit. But with open eyes. And for hours. I did not notice any of the people sitting across or next to me leaving the train. Was really wierd. My thoughts did not wander. I did think of nothing. Like I was not thinking at all. My mind felt really empty for some days after it.
Never reached that state of mind again. tried meditation just to get back to it. No succes so far.
>>16929540 When you are high, you perceive. You think everything is deeply philosophical and see hallucinations. Only ''drug'' I was on was caffeine. Drugs only fills your head more. That is the opposite of what i was experiencing.
Google ''tukdam'' its basically people dying from meditating so deep they leave this realm. Might have been close to that. And thus, arguably, to ''true'' enlightenment.
‘If the person is able to remain in this state for more than three weeks – which rarely happens – his body gradually shrinks, and in the end all that remains from the person is his hair, nails, and clothes. Usually in this case, people who live next to the monk see a rainbow that glows in the sky for several days. This means that he has found a ‘rainbow body’. This is the highest state close to the state of Buddha’. - Dr Barry Kerzin
>>16928188 Why would someone who came here seeking enlightening, who then attained Enlightenment choose to stop coming here after? "Before Enlightenment; chop wood, carry water. After Enlightenment; chop wood, carry water." I think you've failed to grasp the deeper meaning of that quote.....
Maybe. I have no material desires i can think of to bring me back. Part of me still wants to fall in love and have a kid or two but i know that will all bring more sadness than happiness.
I used to find my drive in life by helping other people and enjoying their company but events in my life and the world at large have both made me lose faith in humanity, and also start thinking it's not my place to interfere. So i don't even have that reason to come back anymore. Hopefully there's a loophole in the Boddhisattva vow i can use to get out of it and i'm not forced to come back.
>>16928010 Have I reached Enlightenment? no but I am still more enlightened than most people out there and strive to be more so every day. If one can truly say they are enlightened then they are lying to you and themselves because it is a never ending journey.
Ever since I got arrested and bailed out by my family I have been rethinking about life and began isolating myself from others. Quit smoking, drinking and playing games and started backtracing everything I have done. Grades have improved but I still feel guilt which is keeping me from smiling off with life. Still trying to get a grasp why we all have to live this way and go through hard times...I need more patience though. Whenever someone says something really negative, I retaliate negatively and I need to fix that problem. Enlighten doesn't really come easily like people say so on the Internet. It takes years of mental, emotional, and physical improvement.
>>16930725 The agreement to help others is optional. There's actually another word similar to bodhisattva for someone who is liberated from the cycle of rebirth but chooses not to return to help people.
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