I think I need to talk about this. I can't even sleep right now because some freaky shit is happening since a Halloween party that happened recently. I think I have some sort of spirit/entity thing following me around and I am not sure what it wants. They seem pretty gentle for the most part, but I don’t think they left my side a single time since I first spoke to it. Now to begin the story. Ok, so obviously this started at a Halloween party like I mentioned before. Me and my friends were bored so we wanted to mess around with some shit. One thing we played was an older Ouija board one of them brought over. Truthfully, none of us believed in any of this stuff, but slowly I think I am becoming convinced something has to be out there, otherwise I wouldn’t be having these experiences, or I am losing my fucking mind! Moving along... We played with the thing for a good while until we felt like we contacted something. After a bit of research we learned a little about whatever it was. I obviously thought one of my friends was just pranking us by moving the planchette around and pretending to be surprised along with us. While I was thinking to myself about bout how retarded this was I kind of mentally asked it to do something as like ultimate proof to myself that one of my friends was messing with the rest of us. I remembered asking for it to spell out a number I thought up. Before the next question could even be asked by anyone else the Planchette spelled out the number four with letters. My face went white and I jumped back from the game a bit with widened eyes. Obviously my friends were confused as hell from the sudden reaction. They questioned why the thing was spelling out random numbers before anyone could ask anything.
Damn, this story is already getting sorta long. I will try to summarize with less words. Ultimately I continued the game and mentally convinced myself that it was really nothing paranormal, but I was uneasy the entire time. Things came to a close and we all left to go home. That night I could not sleep too well. It felt like something was in the room with me, lurking in the darkness. Next night was even worse, I was psyching myself out because I could swear I was feeling light touches of something along certain parts of my body. It felt like I was caressed with energy at times, but it felt like the energy had some sort of physical form. It is actually a pleasant feeling if you ignore the whole scared shitless component. From then on I started having dreams at night that centered around this strange figure. An indefinable human form that sometimes glows, and sometimes approaches me in a very calming way. I wake up from them most times, but they aren’t horribly scary or anything. These dreams are extremely vivid, but its always some sort of gender neutral being visiting. Despite the lack of detail the being itself is actually very pretty, or rather the way it glows, and the surreal nature is the beautiful thing. I talked to my friends after to see if they had been experiencing anything, but none of them besides me has this weird attachment going on. At first it started out very gentle, but over the course of the week it became more real, and weirdly enough it does not seem to want to hurt me, but I think it might be in love with me. Before I noped the fuck up and began writing this I could swear I felt some sort of energy touching my lips, like a small kiss or something. Even now I can sort of feel it around me. It has me a little unnerved.
Seduction is an ancient ploy, OP. It would be unwise to welcome or enjoy the "touches".
I advise you to rebuke it, ask for forgiveness from God, and never do stupid shit like trying to speak to entities that you have no business speaking with.
Do you want it gone? Quickest and easiest method for entity removal: burning some Sage. No one really knows why, but shit is instant demon repellent. As it's burning, hold it up in your right hand, while you walk with it clockwise atleast around each room in your house, as if to let the smoke draw a line around the walls.
If your curiousity overrides your fear, attempt communication in the form of automatic writing. When you sense its presence, write on a piece of paper with your non-dominant hand. The thoughts thAt enter your head immediately after you ask it a question are not your imagination. They are sent from the entity. Sometimes words, sometimes images. Voices are very rare. Best of luck. Remember, when in doubt, sage.
>might be in love with me
All your words, OP. You describe a seduction. The seduced are not supposed to know that they are being targeted (and you are being targeted). You describe a sensual presence intent on escalating it's interactions. It is a seduction. Follow my advice, anonfriend.
Also, and this is very important, nothing beneficial will happen if you try to communicate with it, yet you risk some very bad things happening by doing so. Sage does not trump appeals to a higher power i.e. prayer to God.
I know the feeling mate.
I've got this fucker in my room who takes on the stereotypical "hatman" look when he's been in my dreams. In the dark you can hear and feel him walking around, sitting on the bed, breathing, etc. He hates the light, and while in the presence of it he outright disappears from the room. I don't think he's outright malicious, just annoying.
He's gotten braver recently. The television used to subdue him, now it doesn't.
That worries me.
Have you tried...hitting on the entity?
Ghosts just want to be too anon.
from what i can tell this is a bad idea, but i remember a story of some other anon seducing a ghost/alien/somethingidontremember, and i remember him using a ruby on his night stand
Why? Talk to him. Those entities have usually been around for thousands of years. I'd take advice from a thousand year old man. What if he can't leave? It's not like you're cosmically significant enough for him to wish you harm. Maybe he's allowing you to see him because he wants to communicate. For better or worse, you can experience something most people are scared shitless of and do so with dignity- he isn't hurting you, is he?
So he probably won't if you offer him a beer and sit down for a chat. You might even learn something.
I bet he watches you do stupid shit and just ruminates upon what he'd say to you if there was a channel of communication.
Give it a whirl.
I think it's only a bad idea if you're afraid of the entities.
Like, subconsciously you have to try your absolute hardest to not really give them an inch.
Basically become Duke A #1 Alpha.
Am I being seduced? I guess it does sound like it, but I just don't feel like it.
Very interesting story. I felt it jump on my bed a few times when trying to sleep. It actually shakes the bed a surprising amount that fully wakes me up whenever I am about to doze off.
It said something about love when I tried talking to it during the party. It's some sort of male/female hybrid or something
Yes. Read your initial posts then reread >>16941883 The seduction is the bait that conceals the hook. You are not supposed to feel like you are being seduced. This is part of the design of seduction, and the successful application of this deception, (as evidenced by your lack of perception of this tactic) marks the seducer as skilled and practiced in it's art. It really doesn't matter if this makes sense to you. What matters is that you make the right decisions moving forward.
Just talk to it politely and tell it it is making you uncomfortable. See if you can communicate to it directly to see what it is and wants. Do not TRUST, but in all honestly most spirits aren't out to fuck your shit up. Christ fags think everything is the fucking bogyman. They don't even know their modern Christian 'demons' are bullshit bastardizations of spirits such as daemons from older cultures.
Just proceed calmly and with caution. Do not let yourself indulge your emotions. Use logic. Emotions leave you vulnerable, especially fear, should the entity actually be predatory in nature. Most people never get to make contact like this at all.
OP you have developed a phenomenon known as a "Stand".
Shuffle a deck of tarot and keep the first card you draw on your person at all times from now on. This identifies the spirit and protects you. It is powered by your breath & heartbeat; with practice it can be an extension of yourself and aid you as poltergeist.
One day you must travel to Cairo and meet with a with a specialist such as Mohammad Abdul. Eventually you shall confront DIO and reach the Next Level.
And one way to try is EVP if they can't seem to communicate directly. Ouija boards seem to be an open door for anything to walk through, so I don't recommend those.
I've never gotten to communicate with a spirit directly, but I've had a lot of different encounters, and only one was threatening. In all honesty spirits are everywhere, their reality and our simply don't always overlap enough to be aware of them. Living humans are far greater a threat to us than spirits unless you do something super stupid.
Don't let the christfags scare you OP. if you consider yourself a brave man, go along and befriend it and see what you learn. There's all sorts of things out there, things we haven't come close to understanding. It's the words of cowards that are so quick to label anything unknown as "evil" and "unnatural". Not every ET, ghost, creature, and shadow is a demon from hell trying to trick you. Be brave and communicate, and report back. If worse comes to worst, remember this- if it can hurt you, you can hurt it.
I've been sleeping on and off today. My sleep schedule is so crazy because of this. I am pretty tired right now, but I just woke up from some freak shit. I had a dream just a moment ago where I couldn't move. I was in my bed and the entity climbed on top of me and basically held me down or something. They pinned my hands down, and laid on top of me. As I was sitting there he/she leaned in and just started breathing on my neck with warm quick breaths. That is all the entity did. No words were spoken. I tried to wake up, but the moment I thought I did I was back in another dream. I can feel it's presence strongly right now as I type this. I don't even know if I am awake right now or not. It's just all so strange
You mentioned "seduction" in your original post, but it's entirely possible that the entity just likes your aura; before I learned shielding, I had a tendency to "leak" energy that was apparently very appealing to entities, and they would cluster around me because I smelled good to them or something. Sometimes, they try to get too close, and don't always understand or care about human boundaries. (It seems that spirits don't tend to understand that "not saying no" isn't the same as "saying yes"; affirmative consent is tricky even for incorporeal entities, I guess!)
You need to learn how to psychically shield yourself. There are many methods available for this-- I use Reiki energy, but you can also do the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram, or burn sage (although sage can be an irritant not just to entities, but also to allergy-prone or just especially spiritually sensitive humans, so you might want to try dragonsblood incense instead), or sing and wave a broom or horsehair brush around as if you're cleaning the air, or something else-- basically every culture that ever existed has had some form of cleansing/shielding ritual.
You can also just straight-up talk to the entity. It's okay to tell it that you're not comfortable with how close it's getting, and you need to establish some boundaries, or you're going to have to send it away for good. You might have to be firm, but it also helps to be polite and sympathetic-- I've had very good results, personally, with just saying "please" and stating my requests nicely. If it reacts angrily or doesn't stick to your boundaries, however, then you'll need to either learn how to banish entities yourself, or find someone (occultist, energy practitioner, even some priests/ministers still do exorcisms) who can do it for you. Preferably fairly gently (a forceful exorcism/banishment can mess with your body/give you the shits).
Lets encourage OP to play with things out of his power.
OP, stop talking to it. Ask it to leave in a firm yet respectful way. If the thing doesn't leave then its obvious you got yourself a demonic entity and you'll have to get the big guns. The longer you have it with you the more powerful it becomes and more energy if takes from you.
It is a bit strange, but I read all this stuff about banishing and every time someone mentions it I am hit with a wave of sadness out of nowhere. Maybe she doesn't want to be banished or something.
Oh, I settled on a pronoun for now because typing them/they was annoying me. She seems gentle like a female so that is my reasoning. Though in the ouija session it said it was a hybrid of both genders.
It's so true. I grew up with a poltergeist that liked to pick on me and try to scare me. When I stopped being scared and started talking to it and telling it politely to not do certain things, it became pretty chill. It never harmed anyone. I suspect it may have formed an attachment to me and the same one may have visited me at several different places I've lived throughout my life. Just shows up and moves some things and makes a little noise until I acknowledge it.
Christ fags are really just paranoid fools who give away their personal power to outside entities in return for a sense of security. Our bodies generate a lot of energy, and all one has to do is be aware of that and use their will to control that. Instead of fear which throws off energy and attracts hungry spirits, one should feel their own power and will it to encase them. You can project it outward as a force you control when you want to banish a spirit from your personal space. It's more practical and polite to try talking to them first and only using force if they are hostile. No reason to make enemies.
Yeah, I'd say just set some boundaries and don't leave yourself too open. Maybe you can find out what the entity wants. Hell, there are passive feeders who just like to hang around for residual energy we give off. Just be careful to keep her emotions distinguished from yours. Sometimes two beings' interests can turn out to be at odds with one another, it doesn't make the feelings of ether party any less real or valid, but one has to put one's own interests first.
How do I set boundaries. I already expressed that she was creeping me out a little bit, but she just continues doing her thing. Like right now I can feel her gently stroking my cheek.
>Christ fags are really just paranoid fools who give away their personal power to outside entities in return for a sense of security.
No. God is in me and he is 100% me. You don't understand.
Ok, just got back from doing some things. Anyway, about boundaries. How do I set them? It feels like I am being...hypnotized? She feels strongest whenever I lay in bed, so sometimes I feel like I am soothed into a tired state that makes me want to lay down. I do, and that is when I can feel her put a little bit of weight on me. It also feels like covers are being shifted around a bit, and undefinable anatomy touches me all over.
It sounds like unless you want to risk a wild ride with an unknown entity, you should probably banish her. She's not respecting you. Do some googling about centering and energy manipulation. Take control of your personal space.
Yes I am OP. I just don't even remember my reason for starting this thread. I think it was to ask for advice on this, but I don't even know how to go about any of it, or what advice is actually helpful. There seems to be a separation here. Some say interact more and others say to banish.
Okay. I am the anon that suggested the seduction theory and went on to quote your words to support that theory.
/x/ is full of different types of people who have different views on the supernatural. My opinion is as I posted earlier: rebuke the spirit, pray for forgiveness (you fucked up, accidentally or not) and protection, and pursue this spirit in no way.
Only you know what is going on in your life right now. It can be interesting to have something unique break up the monotony, but I assure you, this is not an avenue you want to go down. Don't fear it, but recognize that it is a seperate entity of ostensibly unknown intentions operating on a realm at which you are unprepared to experience.
These things are real, as you know, and I am praying that you make the right decision.
OP, in this case I think you should go for banishment honestly. Pick one or more suggested way posted ITT that you feel comfortable with.
Reason being this entity pursued you after you and your friends let it through with a ouija board. You have no idea what it is, who it is, or what it wants. And though you may ask it these things, because of the circumstances of how it came to be with you, it is under no obligation to answer truthfully or at all.
I don't think anyone thinks it's a good idea to interact more without establishing firm boundaries first (unless you're referring to the fact that establishing boundaries might require more interaction). I'm concerned that she seems to be interfering with your ability to focus and understand what's going on. Whatever you decide to do, you DEFINITELY need to put up some shields ASAP. I'll send you a bit of shielding Reiki until you can learn to shield yourself (I suggest googling some of the things already mentioned in this thread, whatever appeals to you, or just searching for "how to psychic shield" or something). Hopefully this will give you a bit of breathing room so you can muster the clarity of intent and willpower needed to communicate your desired boundaries clearly.
Alternatively, it *could* be possible that you're experiencing some sort of medical issue that is clouding your mind, and she's unsuccessfully trying to pull you out of it or communicate to you what's going on. If you notice any physical symptoms that merit medical attention, don't ignore them in favor of a spiritual explanation. As above, so below, and all that jazz.
One other thing, OP. There is a qualitative difference between contact and possession. Possession requires 3rd party intervention of which /x/ will be unable to provide, if you insist on attempting further contact with this entity. Please bear that in mind as you ponder reasonable reactionsto this situation.
Ok, so I tried to do some shielding and stuff, but it really just seemed to have made it worse. Not bad worse, but worse as in she just kept touching me more and it felt more intense than before. I feel like I could speak to her in my mind if I tried to focus or something. I get a really weird hollow emotion from her. Something like she doesn't want to go away because she is lonely. Maybe I can set up another thing with my friends again to ask her what is going on.
I had shit like that happen to me i would feel like someone was stroking my back and hair, i kept getting sleep paralysis and would feel like someone was hugging me from the side it felt quite warm and pleasant but if i resisted in anyway shit would become quite aggressive. I started to pray before bed and draw salt lines in my house that worked.
Sounds like my dream with her. I couldnt move and she just laid on me and cuddled with me. Very strange stuff. What would come of it if I were to interact with her more and she became stronger as a result? How would this whole thing play out?
Well i probably didnt go about it in the best way, i basically just told what ever it was to fuck off, and would fight it/pray for help whenever it would manifest it self the sleep paralysis episodes got more frequent and violent the worse at which i saw a spooky white face with sharp teeth starring at me a few inches from my face , shit seemed so real but eventually it stopped.
This lasted about a year, i hate to admit this but at times i got sick of fighting and would sonetimes just give in and not fight because it was easier and more pleasant. My inconsistency is probably what made it last so long.
Hmmm, inconsistency? So, I have some sort of succubus? I am not so sure about that. Aren't they usually girls anyway? This spirit is more like a, how do I describe it? It's more like a template, if that makes sense. Like it feels like its projecting things at me. Idk, what the hell am I even talking about? I think of something and sometimes it will do it. Like during the party when I thought of the number four, and a few other things.
It is projecting things at you. You didn't think of the number 4. It suggested that thought to you in order to present the fassad that it can read your mind. I'm telling you, OP, these things are deceptive and skilled. Stop lingering under it's trance and remove yourself from it's presence.
Your fucked forever until death you will burn in hell and everybody thats part of your household will die soon and will burn in hell for the rest of eternity as you will too, never even touch a fucking ouija you fool
>attempting contact on the day Hel's gates are open
Moron. You had better hope it has good intentions. By attempting contact you gave it attention and that's what they want. Chances are this thing is going to stick to you like glue, and its true intentions can never be known. It may act friendly but have sinister plans.
I had a spirit try to appeal to my emotions. It tried to make me fall in love. Dam was my heart throbbing but the logic inside me told me it wasnt real and that I had to stay strong.
honestly it had me switching sides several times but what saved me was remembering the incredible pain I felt after I let myself feel something for someone else.
In the end I said to myself I didnt want to feel that pain again and I wouldnt jump in foolheartily. I do have a very tender heart.
Were you born an asshole or did you become one. Im being fully serious you cunt.
>shota addiction mixed w/ cutting
Wow so wise arnt you, except none of that applies to me. You are literally a retard.
Anon, I never recommended shielding. Those white magic tools are easily countered half-measures by any entity of stature. Pay attention, because this is key: it wants you, but you must consent for it to have power over you. The harassment you are experiencing is nothing compared to letting it possess you. Resist it and pray to God.
OP please take a writing class or something. It was a chore to slog through those giant meandering paragraphs.
I lost all interest in your lame story before I got to the end because of how poorly paced the whole thing was. Consider articulating your thoughts before spewing them all over the keyboard.
So, I guess the consensus is to banish it. I do have a problem with anything inherently christian. I don't actually like those religions that much. Remember in the story how I said I didn't really believe in that sort of thing? Now all of a sudden I have to start praying? This is all moving so quickly
Was it really that bad? I know I am not that great, but I wouldn't consider myself horrible. I was just trying to remember as much detail as I could so everyone could have the full story.
Oh, so I really am bad at writing? Oh well.
I think she is trying to get me to lay down or something. I feel a little calm and relaxed. I slept for a while before hand, but I just feel so warm right now.
OP, look at it this way. You may he opposed to anything inherently kevlar, but that does not mean kevlar doesn't make a decent bullet resistant vest. Your beliefs are largely irrelevant at this point. Your actions will determine your fate. Put aside your bigotry and consider that something outside your worldview might be able to help.
> Damn, this story is already getting sorta long.
> greentext is your friend
You could talk to it but it seems like it's already made clear what it wants. You could tell it to go away and firmly resolve to ignore it until it gives up and does so. You could also pray to God or some deity that resonates with you and ask for it/tell it to go away. Also, like another anon said, herbs like garlic, sage, salt, frankinsense, myrrh and a lot of other things make it more difficult for obnoxious entities. Researching what herbs are good for that and which of those grow in your area and praying over them is also helpful.
Idk, I just woke up actually. Just felt like the right thing to do in my sleepy haze. Anyway, I did pour salt around my bed last night. I tried to say a prayer too, but that didn't help. Not sure if I did it right, but whatever. I had another freaky dream where I felt like I met her for real or something and we spoke a little bit, but I eventually woke up mid dream and since then I have this weird feeling. A strange feeling that I forgot something, as well as a hint of melancholy.
OP anon, I have dealt with this very thing before. Sage, salt, and prayer will not banish the thing. If it singled you out amongst your friends then there is something that it needs from you specifically.
If it has not acted violently or threateningly or anything like that, chances are that it is desperate for your help, and doesn't want to scare you away.
Have you tried talking to it again since that night?
>I think I need to talk about this.
If all you have are thoughts, I'm sure you have no needs.
>Now to begin the story.
>a Halloween party that happened recently
Is there another kind of Halloween party that I've never heard of?
>Ok, so obviously this started at a Halloween party like I mentioned before.
Yes... Before... Two sentences before.
>One thing we played
Easy there, you're not under retrospective oath yet.
>slowly I think I am becoming convinced
You mean like an adjective?
Still talking about that fateful Halloween night or have you lost track of your thoughts again?
>My face went white and I jumped back from the game a bit with widened eyes.
This honestly sounds like the phrasing someone uses when they're remembering something that actually happened. From memory.
Well at least it doesn't seem like it wants to hurt you. I suggest burning dragonsblood incense-- has a similar effect to sage but with a less "fuck off, I don't like you" effect, more of a "please calm down and don't be so pushy" sort of effect. Also, spirits respond to your will and intent-- you have to really focus on having an unconflicted will when you're establishing boundaries, have some really strong intent behind your words when you say, "messing with me like this is not okay, if you want me to help you then you've gotta back off."
Of course, this is just my view of the situation. If you're going to pray for anything, pray for clarity and discernment so that you know what you need to pray for next, and then go from there. In my view, at least, God knows what you need to be doing much better than any given anon does, including me-- I don't think that you need to be praying for forgiveness for accidentally ending up with an entity attracted to you, but again, that's not up to me. There are more kinds of Christianity than just the kind that sees the spiritual world as a black-and-white demons-vs-angels battle, so I think you don't need to let a certain anon bully you into seeing the world as he does.
What sends a clear and unambiguous, "If you want my help, you're better off dead," with a side of, "If you feel ever feel a sense of entitlement in my presence, you WILL get turned inside-out," sort of message?
That's basically what the Pagans called cacodaemons. The "good" ones were called agathodaemons or eudaemons. Most daemons, however, fit neither category specifically and were essentially neutral.
They're not just different spellings, they're entirely different concepts. While cacodaemons may be superficially similar, they're STILL completely different things. Even cacodaemons aren't "fallen".